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All of sudden, vandalizing statues is a crime is America again (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by SupremeReader 4 years ago by SupremeReader +144 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 58 points 4 years ago +58 / -0

I expect them to be hypocritical. But just how blatantly they think they can get away with it is always a shock to me.

They have literally not even trace amounts of principle.

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– Gizortnik 45 points 4 years ago +45 / -0

I keep telling you, Leftism is a Philosophy of War. The only principle they have is the acquisition of power. The object of that power exists to coerce the enemy to your will. That is all. That fully describes every Leftist movement since the French Revolution.

The Friend-Enemy Distinction necessarily comes into play when you are operating under war-footing. Enemies are not moral agents within your system. That is why it is not only okay, but a moral imperative, to kill them. That is why no moral criticism by the anti-Left can effect the Left. Hypocrisy is irrelevant because you are complaining, as an enemy, about the tactics of the Left when they have not seized all the power they are seeking. The Left has never had a coherent policy stance through it's many variations and applications through time, because they only seek the power first, then to impose their will on others.

This is why all Leftist moral criticisms from you are in bad faith. They are not holding you to their standard, they are using your standards as a weapon against you. They will use every single weapon against you because you are their enemy. If you say you won't shoot civilians, they'll use human shields. If you say you won't bribe, they'll undermine your allies with bribes. None of this effect their view of themselves because you are the enemy, and your destruction, regardless of how, is a moral imperative.

This is also why no authoritarian structure will work to destroy them or prevent them. You can only prevent them from having the capacity to make war altogether by decentralizing and individuating all power structures, and increasing a balance of terror to the highest possible point so that only voluntary interaction is even tolerable. Otherwise, they'll find another way in.

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– johnmic07 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

This was very illuminating.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Here's my two main points about Leftism as a philosophy of War:

  • https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/11R4gd0NTU/x/c/4DqetGw1hPZ
  • https://www.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction2/comments/cedauq/opinion_why_leftward_drift_happens_on_the_left/
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– SupremeReader [S] 39 points 4 years ago +39 / -0

And New York just mass amnestied thousands of vandals and looters.

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– velocistar 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

At this point, little value would be lost by nuking NYC.

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– SparkMandrill83 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Value would be gained.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Hey! There's... Uhh...

Hmm...

Sub-par pizza?

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– MargarineMongoose 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

The rule of law is dead in America.

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– SparkMandrill83 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

they think they can get away with it

They think they'll get away with it? They will.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

For now. No one can foretell the future.

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– the_nybbler 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I can. It's a boot, stomping on a white male face, forever.

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– deleted 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0
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– Elrond_Hubbard 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

That's because they can get away with it

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– MrGiggles 55 points 4 years ago +55 / -0

Why is George Floyd, out of all of these "cop killing" events, deified like this? He died like a complete bitch, high on a lethal amount of drugs, crying and freaking out like a captured animal. He could have just gotten in the car and he would have MAYBE lived if he was able to survive the overdose. The cops were being absolute retards for not just closing the damn door on both sides instead of letting that moron exit the vehicle and accommodating his nonsensical requests of being put on the ground.

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– deleted 32 points 4 years ago +32 / -0
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– SufferableKant 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

This is exactly the same way I see it.

If it had been a blatantly obvious case of murder, both the left and the right would have agreed that the cop was guilty, and he would have been charged and that would have been the end of that.

Instead, we have a case which looks to one side like the most horrific case of racially instigated broad daylight murder via police brutality, and to the other side it looks as if a criminal died of a self-inflicted drug overdose, and that the police involved are being lynched in order to flame the fires of racial tension.

Personally, I think that the entire reason the media kept the spotlight on this specific incident, and kept amplifying it, is because they know that outrage sells.

The more tinfoil-hat side of me thinks that there is a push from an institutional level to constantly divide people by persuading them that everything wrong in America today is because of racism.

Between race relations, politics, and social justice, it seems as if the average person online in 2021 are straight-out incapable from having a conversation with half the population. They may as well be speaking in a unintelligible language, and trying to perceive the world through a completely foreign set of senses.

Edit: The best article I've seen on the above phenomena: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/ (Thanks to Guy_Incognito76 for sharing it.)

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– SparkMandrill83 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

There's nothing tinfoil about it. Every social justice issue is pushed by the elites to keep us divided instead of uniting against them.

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– current_horror 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The leftist coalition of feminists, invaders, degenerates, minorities, and communists aren't being "duped" by the elites into hating and attacking us. They all hate us regardless. The elites have empowered and funded our enemies, but that doesn't mean we would be friends otherwise.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Most people arent born hating everyone else, they have to be taught it. Even then, a good chunk of the truly zealous would fizzle out and die alone somewhere if it werent for these ideologies giving them purpose.

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– realerfunction 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

this story never should have left the state

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0
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– SufferableKant 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Aah, I remember someone linking this article in the early days of Floyd's death, and I was incredibly impressed at how effectively it relates.

If you any one else hasn't read it, I'd recommend that you do.

In these Interesting Times of clown world, it is worth the read in order to bolster the tools you have against the endless gaslighting.

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– PepesCovfefe 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Do you think the cop is guilty due to staying on him so long after he stopped moving, and paramedics arriving at scene saying he had no pulse?

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– Kingarthas2 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Go look up what constitutes a lethal dose of fentanyl, its like a grain of sand. He was a dead man walking.

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– PepesCovfefe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What about the cop could have given him cpr after he stopped moving instead of staying on him?

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– current_horror 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Floyd told them he had been diagnosed with covid-19. At that time, even EMTs were being told not to administer CPR to people suspected of infection. Keep in mind, this was back when a lot of people thought covid-19 was some kind of death sentence.

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– almond_activator 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

On or off made no difference once the drugs kicked in. His only chance at survival was the paramedics arriving before his heart gave out.

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– PepesCovfefe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well what about after he stopped moving the cop could have done cpr?

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– almond_activator 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8452077/

Patients younger than 70 years of age had a success rate of 16.2 percent (odds ratio = 1.36; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.20 to 1.53)

That's in a hospital, where a full-time medical professional is performing CPR, not on a street curb, where a full-time law enforcement officer with a two-hours-every-three-years certification is attempting CPR.

Man was dead the moment he ingested the drugs to avoid getting caught with them and decided to keep it a secret. If he'd just fessed up, he could've gotten a NARCAN shot and maybe lived.

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– deleted 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0
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– current_horror 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

By the time Chauvin was convicted, something like 26% of white Americans thought he was guilty. The verdict was a show of force for leftists.

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– Kaarous 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Why is George Floyd, out of all of these "cop killing" events, deified like this?

Demoralization. The socialists love forcing the populace to repeat lies.

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– StoicVampirePig 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

I've got a theory that might make me sound a 'bit racist'...but I think it's cause he looks like a big dumb ape, thus fulfilling the goal of making people pointing this out extra racist, leftists love it when we do that.

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– MrGiggles 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Yeah, big dumb ape is one of the first things that comes to mind when I see George Floyd.

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– Adamrises 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Its funny how nobody has ever uses a picture of him except the one we all know.

Really activates your almonds about he looked like on a regular basis. Probably a Trayvon situation where they couldn't find a single non-gang banger looking one without going back years.

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– Kingarthas2 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

He had enough fentanyl in him to kill multiple people, he was a dead man walking regardless of what chauvin did

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– Smith1980 34 points 4 years ago +34 / -0

First thing I thought of. Turnabout is fair play. Such an embarrassment this man has been turned into some hero

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– acp_k2win 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

the dailywire sunday special got this one right.... the left worships victims and hates accomplishment

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– deleted 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0
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– SometimesSpecific 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

No no this is entirely different you see. These are good statues.

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– velocistar 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

We should ask the left in public, what is it about Floyd that makes him so worthy of being a hero?

Because he's black? I don't see any other fucking reason why they idolize him so much. That fact should be further exposed more to show how retarded this all is, hence asking them in public.

If he was white, they wouldn't have given a shit and his name wouldn't be known to us.

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0
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– viking65 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That's why it wouldn't be a shame if it was destroyed naturally in minecraft

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– PepesCovfefe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Do you think the cop is guilty due to staying on him so long after he stopped moving, and paramedics arriving at scene saying he had no pulse?

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– SupremeReader [S] 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Worst bot.

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– PepesCovfefe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I’m just repeating what I’ve heard people argue, that he didn’t have to stay on him after he stopped moving and could have done cpr. I don’t have a rebuttal for that and would like one.

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– SupremeReader [S] 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

You would go mouth to mouth with a guy who just told you he's got covid?

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– PepesCovfefe 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Excellent point!

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– velocistar 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

No.

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– ghostfox1_ 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

If you're black, you can get away with anything.

If you're not black, you're literally hitler.

This is what leftists want.

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– velocistar 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Unless that black turns out to be non-leftist in their ideology. Then the left wants that black dead.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Don't think for a second they wouldn't put a bullet in Brandon Tatum if given the opportunity.

Leftists want power. They've destroyed black communities and pissed in their mouths laughing for 70 years now. They don't care about anyone.

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– Decrixxx 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

mainstream media told me that vandalizing statues is a gesture of unmatched peacefulness, it also indicates the end of an era, therefore, is time to rejoice.

ps.(this one glow in the dark)

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– RealDrJester 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I thought I would be immune by now after being exposed by the amount of hypocrisy from the left. Nope, it still makes me twitch at the same level as the first time.

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– deleted 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0
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– 1qaz2wsx_ 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It would be a better activism to print-out the criminal record and tape it to the statue. Avoid criminal activities, stick to the truth.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

A racist, loathsome, despicable act of hate.

Or maybe armed robbers who hold guns to pregnant women's stomachs don't deserve statues.

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– current_horror 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Authoritarian psychos who execute thousands of people don't deserve to be on tee-shirts either, but you'll see Che all over college campuses.

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– CptAurelius 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Oh, NOW it's a "hate crime"?

I remember when people who cleaned statues during BLM riots got attacked, insulted, berated, and chased down by the police for daring to clean statues.

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– Morgio_Zoroder 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://realtinaforcongress.com/

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– PepesCovfefe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Do you think the cop is guilty due to staying on him so long after he stopped moving, and paramedics arriving at scene saying he had no pulse?

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– Gizortnik 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

No, because that's not murder. You actually have to have killed someone to be a murder. You can't just allegedly look bad to a crowd.

Floyd died of an overdose.

Chauvin is, at this point, the victim of a lynching.

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– SupremeReader [S] 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

The knee was on his back. (Even according to the prosecution.)

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– FromTheShadows 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe while he was in the fucking car before anyone was pressing anything down on him

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– Gizortnik 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Is any of that not true

Yes:

  • Chauvin kneels on his neck

Chauvin kneeled on his back. To be clear, there are moments when Chauvin is on the neck, and then on Floyd's back, and on Floyd's shoulder. He's just trying to hold him down. But really consider just how much you've been lied to when the first thing I need to tell you is that the idea that Chauvin was kneeling on some guy's neck for 7-9 minutes isn't true.

  • while his buddy stands guard nearby.

There were 3 other police officers, and this is because Chauvin had been fighting. Those 3 other police officers became necessary to stand guard because the crowd that had already gathered was extremely hostile.

  • A crowd starts gathering around and you can hear some of them plead with Chauvin to take his knee off of Floyd's neck.

And screaming, and shoving, and one of them having to be held back in the crowd because he was going to attack the police officers. Which is why...

  • But Chauvin doesn't relent until paramedics arrive

... the reason the the paramedics didn't arrive immediately is because the crowd made the scene insecure, and they were taking a risk to get in. Let me reiterate this: the crowd prevented Floyd from getting emergency medical treatment. Among the many things responsible for Floyd's death, the crowd is one of them. They are more responsible for Floyd's death than Chauvin is.

Why didn't Chauvin stand-up? Because Floyd had been pushing around the four of them moments earlier. If he did get up, Chauvin had no way of stopping him.

  • Floyd said he can't breath.

He definitely said that. He said it on the ground... and in the car... and outside of the car. You know what causes shortness of breath? OD-ing and cardiac arrest.

When someone says they can't breathe there are only 3 ways this can be done: airway restriction, lack of lung expansion, and diaphragm immobility. The last one is hard to do without a literal bear hug. Lack of lung expansion is a threat, particularly if you are severely overweight and someone's sitting on your ribs to prevent them from expanding. Chauvin wasn't putting pressure the ribs, he was putting a knee on the shoulder blade and spine. Which gets us to the airway...

  • but it was the knee on his neck cutting off oxygen to the brain completely that killed him.

... because this isn't a restriction of the airway. That would be a restriction of the blood vessels.

Both are anatomically impossible from Chauvin's position. This is why the man who testified he was an MMA fighter and called it a blood choke (the guy who had to be restrained from attacking the cops) is a liar. A blood choke compresses both blood vessels that lead to your brain and are located on the front left and right side of your neck. In MMA, a good way to accomplish this is called a "rear naked choke". Cutting off blood circulation to the brain causes a loss of consciousness... in 6 seconds. Now, it does take minutes to kill someone with this. But this can only be done when both pairs of blood vessels are restricted. That can only be done by applying force to the front sides. Not the back of the neck. The blood vessels are protected by neck muscles and the spine from the back. It is not anatomically possible to preform a blood choke with a knee to the back of the neck, intermittently. IT. IS. NOT. POSSIBLE. If you don't believe me, try it.

Seriously, attempt to choke someone with one single bit of blunt force, like a knee, from the back of a neck. It can't be done. You might as well be trying to choke someone out with an ankle lock.

Of course, this lie is STILL different from the media's lie that his airway was restricted, which is even more impossible. If someone's throat is being restricted, they will struggle to both breath and speak. That did not happen. It is also not possible to restrict the airway from the back of their neck. That is not where the throat is.

Finally, we get to the actual reason you don't put pressure on a person's neck: danger to the spine. Not the throat. Not the blood vessels. The Spine. You don't want to potentially damage the suspect's spine. It could kill or paralyze them... but only by breaking their C1/C2 vertebrae. It has nothing to do with the airway.

If a police horse had stood on Floyd's neck, it would have broken his spine. It wouldn't have cut off oxygen to his brain.

sigh

The level of lies sometimes even surprises me, and it really shouldn't.

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– krzyzowiec 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

That same county medical examiner released a preliminary autopsy which said that there was no evidence of asphyxiation (cutting off of oxygen to the body), and further that there was no damage to his neck.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Weird how there's no damage to his neck when Chauvin had to assert so much force that it choked Floyd from both sides..

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And they disproved in court that carbon monoxide poisoning from being too near to a running car exhaust was at fault... By showcasing that Floyd had perfectly normal levels of oxygen in his body, thus proving he couldn't have died from carbon poisoning from idling cars.

...But you know, maybe I'm crazy, just a kooky loon, I don't have one o' them fancy med school degrees... But doesn't strangling someone impact the amount of oxygen in them? Like, isn't that kind of why you die when you're strangled, when you drill down enough? Your body doesn't have enough oxygen in it?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, the idea of carbon monoxide poisoning from cars... outside.. is laughably absurd to the face of it.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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