So I got caught in the meta of the conversation in another subthread, but to comment on the main post here... this could use more precise wording but I also acknowledge there aren't many options when it comes to what language to use nowadays, especially when the other side is actively distorting definitions and deliberately changing language.
That said, I don't think it's genetic, and this isn't about black people necessarily. It is the main black culture, and it is the culture that has been born out of the struggle of slavery, so it isn't a stretch to suggest they have a unhappy disposition to their beliefs and rhetoric.
It's hard not to pitty them because it must be a huge burden to live like this, but we can clearly not all black people are like this, but of course these black people are not into their "blackness" and are also not widely accepted in black culture (i.e. Candace Owens). I'm not sure of what the solution would be here, because it seems it's an identity defined this way. It's defined in contrast to the "white oppressor", and without the oppressor that identity might cease to exist, so ironically they need it and therefore continue to look for excuses to feel hurt.
Completely agree with first two points. The contradictions are on the other side, and are there to further the divide.
My solution is to remove all taboos (ideally for adults only, but this is hard online). Even the dumbest ideas have some source from which they are formed, and I think they get dumber and more stupid the more taboo they become.
I agree largely with your sentiment, however the conversation is so asymmetrical, it is dangerous. We can explain and discuss why the premise of the idea is wrong, but completely dismissing it is adding to the asymmetry, and therefore widening the divide.
If conversations like this damaged black people, then it follows the opposing side is completely destroying white people. Ultimately I'd like to see black people defend themselves just like white people have to constantly defend themselves they're not racists --or-- this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
OP made bad argument, but dismissing in this forums like this, is placing the last nail in the coffin, as no other place will even entertain the idea of allowing it. Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
Get out of here with that garbage
Sure the wording is not perfect, probably genes have nothing o do with it, but the pattern is there for anyone that is American, and the averse overreaction against it, is exactly what "mass media" has programmed into people, except only in one direction. They're now saying racism is genetic in white people only, and that racism is a health crisis (mayor of Chicago), yet the moment someone asks a question about black people that isn't extremely careful in the wording, the majority of people are butthurt and act like black genocide was just called for.
This is deeply asymmetrical. People are just trying to explain where all the hate is coming from, which at this point has reached ridiculous levels, so no one should be surprised the theories are also outrageous, or at least outrageously worded.
This is also a discussion forum, asking for "hard data" is dismissive. Just speak to the premise of the subject matter, and if done honestly, it should make for an interesting discussion. i've already defended "white" people endlessly in many forums, from the most disgusting possible accusations. It doesn't even bother me anymore.
Laying out some logic and then immediately adding an exception that would be expanded on if questioned further. Obviously they want political opponents dead, and it won't stop with one person. These people are liars, and have no logic. They present things as if they're logical, "here are my """reasons"""", when they don't reason at all, they just hate and want to destroy.
"the white nationalist" isn't telling me anything. "Mass media messaging" is only part of the problem, if you think no black people think this way, think again. Also no need to be so angry, you're just outing yourself as a weak person.
Why though? They act as a collective in every other way. They defend every single member of their tribe when they have no personal connection to them. Why can't the criticism be on this level as well?
Are there exceptions? Of course, but those exceptions are usually outcasted and labeled as something other than black, by the gorup themselves. They are the ones forcing people to align based on your skin color, and they are quick to admit it, yet any criticism on this level is immidiately dismantled by pointing to individual exceptions, as if they weren't constantly pedaling their racist platform.
This whole mess is created by inconsistencies like this... it's about race, but it's not, it's a collective, but it's not. And it flips back and forth in a convenient way to allow movement of culture only in one direction that only destroys and never builds or heals.
They are furious at the universe for the injustice of burdening them with a woman's body and mind that is inferior to a man's in every measurable physical and mental activity.
That sounds like jealousy.
Also we shouldn't understate what women do better, which is obviously motherhood, birthing and raising children. That by itself weighs as much as everything a man can do. Healthy societies understand this by allowing for the "gender roles" to be what they are, with girls being feminine and boys being masculine, with all their respective characteristics. Destroying these roles is basically not appreciating what women have to offer, and this is now having serious consequences throughout western society.
I just mean "normal" in the sense that if you really wanted to specialize in something like a STEM, the main option was a degree, and while there has always been some indoctrination there is a clear jump in this right around the beginning of social media, when things like online courses and online videos etc., began to explode in numbers, and I guess the indoctrination portion of school took over because teachers aren't as necessary when all the answers are online.
"Indoctrination" is the norm in general. That's kinda the purpose of education to begin with.
Indoctrination is meant to be subversive, and also has an element of brainwashing. Normal education can sometimes have elements of patriotism some would call indoctrination only if you disagreed with it, but for the most part it used to be just sharing of knowledge.
What I think happened was online courses and overall availability of information exploded right around the time this indoctrination started (10-20 years ago). Since schools no longer were needed for direct transfer of information, they needed a new purpose, and the commies were already trying to inflitrate for many decades anyway.
Feminists are jealous of men and want to be more like men, and now this has become mainstream culture. Unfortunately for them, the more you are able to do what men do , the more you become a man, and "woman" means less and less every year. It's like they're self-destructing (leftist women i mean)
"social skills" nowadays means declaring your pronouns, and being a raging faggot because you heard a word being uttered. Personally, I've concluded being honest and learning to listen is all that is needed, everything else is just society imposing their stupid rules on what is "cool" or not. (and I did go to both public and private schools).
This one actually makes sense. Many evil characters can easily be gender fluid / woke.
My favorite is from the Powerpuff Girls, the devil character "Him". It's such a great character ahead of its time... a gender bending demon that sounds playful until he/she is not and then it's terrifying.
Thsi is why women represent chaos and evil. Surprisingly this is even the case in east Asian cultures ( I think they have been deteriorating far longer now ). This isn't to say all women are this way, but if left unchecked they control, manipulate, and eventually destroy that which they think they are protecting. This is why it does come back to men, to be able to deal with this and effectively save society and children from this evil. This also has to do with weakness...
I believe weakness leads to evil, if left unchecked. Every evil started by someone being weak about something and then internalizing hate based on that weakness. Women are obviously weak in many ways, and they need men for protection etc., etc. And it's important to note that the weakness stems from having the ability to nurture, and also create human life. They bear a huge responsibility, and even though it's true we are in a highly feminized society and status quo, at the same time, society has downplayed the importance of what women contribute to society. Wokeness and leftists do not celebrate women anymore, and they want them to be like men, but of course they are weak versions of men, that are extremely susceptible to evil.
Nice try on the part of JP, but they want war and will incite it, while pretending not to, so they can get away with being the victims once it starts.
This is the nature of Evil. It pretends to be the victim while being the one responsible for pushing for violence, so that it can then claim to be the victim, and the vicious cycle can only end in death. I don't think there is a compromise, and the only way to break the cycle is some kind of catharsis event that makes the masses snap out of their sheep group think.
Trans assholes have no love, because they can't even love themselves.