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posted 4 years ago by rubberbiscuit 4 years ago by rubberbiscuit +13 / -0
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– ghoblork 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Why though? They act as a collective in every other way. They defend every single member of their tribe when they have no personal connection to them. Why can't the criticism be on this level as well?

Are there exceptions? Of course, but those exceptions are usually outcasted and labeled as something other than black, by the gorup themselves. They are the ones forcing people to align based on your skin color, and they are quick to admit it, yet any criticism on this level is immidiately dismantled by pointing to individual exceptions, as if they weren't constantly pedaling their racist platform.

This whole mess is created by inconsistencies like this... it's about race, but it's not, it's a collective, but it's not. And it flips back and forth in a convenient way to allow movement of culture only in one direction that only destroys and never builds or heals.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Mass media messaging you dumb motherfucker.

Look, if the white nationalist is telling you this shit ain't genetic then it's time to pack it up and go home. You goddamn fucknut.

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– ghoblork 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

"the white nationalist" isn't telling me anything. "Mass media messaging" is only part of the problem, if you think no black people think this way, think again. Also no need to be so angry, you're just outing yourself as a weak person.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Don't sit here and tell me "black people are perpetually unhappy because genetics" and then pretend like you've got any leg to stand on. Get out of here with that garbage or cough up some hard data.

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– ghoblork 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Get out of here with that garbage

Sure the wording is not perfect, probably genes have nothing o do with it, but the pattern is there for anyone that is American, and the averse overreaction against it, is exactly what "mass media" has programmed into people, except only in one direction. They're now saying racism is genetic in white people only, and that racism is a health crisis (mayor of Chicago), yet the moment someone asks a question about black people that isn't extremely careful in the wording, the majority of people are butthurt and act like black genocide was just called for.

This is deeply asymmetrical. People are just trying to explain where all the hate is coming from, which at this point has reached ridiculous levels, so no one should be surprised the theories are also outrageous, or at least outrageously worded.

This is also a discussion forum, asking for "hard data" is dismissive. Just speak to the premise of the subject matter, and if done honestly, it should make for an interesting discussion. i've already defended "white" people endlessly in many forums, from the most disgusting possible accusations. It doesn't even bother me anymore.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

They defend every single member of their tribe

Not Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Glenn Loury and everyone else who dissents from the narrative. It's almost as if it's about politics and not race.

Of course, but those exceptions are usually outcasted and labeled as something other than black

Whatever they are 'labeled' as does not negate the fact that these are black, and yet excommunicated. It shows that it is not about just race. Having the right opinions, in their mind, is paramount. If you then also have the right race, then you are untouchable.

And it flips back and forth in a convenient way to allow movement of culture only in one direction that only destroys and never builds or heals.

Yes, but what's your solution?

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– ghoblork 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Completely agree with first two points. The contradictions are on the other side, and are there to further the divide.

My solution is to remove all taboos (ideally for adults only, but this is hard online). Even the dumbest ideas have some source from which they are formed, and I think they get dumber and more stupid the more taboo they become.

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