Don't sit here and tell me "black people are perpetually unhappy because genetics" and then pretend like you've got any leg to stand on. Get out of here with that garbage or cough up some hard data.
Sure the wording is not perfect, probably genes have nothing o do with it, but the pattern is there for anyone that is American, and the averse overreaction against it, is exactly what "mass media" has programmed into people, except only in one direction. They're now saying racism is genetic in white people only, and that racism is a health crisis (mayor of Chicago), yet the moment someone asks a question about black people that isn't extremely careful in the wording, the majority of people are butthurt and act like black genocide was just called for.
This is deeply asymmetrical. People are just trying to explain where all the hate is coming from, which at this point has reached ridiculous levels, so no one should be surprised the theories are also outrageous, or at least outrageously worded.
This is also a discussion forum, asking for "hard data" is dismissive. Just speak to the premise of the subject matter, and if done honestly, it should make for an interesting discussion. i've already defended "white" people endlessly in many forums, from the most disgusting possible accusations. It doesn't even bother me anymore.
The stupidity on the other side does not justify stupidity on our side, whatever our side is. We respond the exact same way. The fact that they do not, means that there is a problem with them.
Now, it may very well be that blacks are unhappier than other people. Considering widespread belief in the myth of large-scale racism, worse black health outcomes, worse black neighborhoods, it would not surprise me at all. But the evidence provided by OP was dreadful. It's like me citing Ellen Paige and three other degenerates, and then asking why white people are sick in the head.
I do agree with you that blacks are regarded as sacred, even by people on the anti-woke side. But posting nonsense is not the way to break the spell.
I agree largely with your sentiment, however the conversation is so asymmetrical, it is dangerous. We can explain and discuss why the premise of the idea is wrong, but completely dismissing it is adding to the asymmetry, and therefore widening the divide.
If conversations like this damaged black people, then it follows the opposing side is completely destroying white people. Ultimately I'd like to see black people defend themselves just like white people have to constantly defend themselves they're not racists --or-- this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
OP made bad argument, but dismissing in this forums like this, is placing the last nail in the coffin, as no other place will even entertain the idea of allowing it. Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
I do not think so. I think they are just nonsense.
this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
I think most people here, myself included, view this as an offense against logic and not race. It does not harm black people for some anon to say that they are unhappy, no more than for someone to say the dread word 'nigger'. But nonsense is nonsense.
Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
The argument is allowed, but it is also allowed to point out that it is nonsense.
Don't sit here and tell me "black people are perpetually unhappy because genetics" and then pretend like you've got any leg to stand on. Get out of here with that garbage or cough up some hard data.
Sure the wording is not perfect, probably genes have nothing o do with it, but the pattern is there for anyone that is American, and the averse overreaction against it, is exactly what "mass media" has programmed into people, except only in one direction. They're now saying racism is genetic in white people only, and that racism is a health crisis (mayor of Chicago), yet the moment someone asks a question about black people that isn't extremely careful in the wording, the majority of people are butthurt and act like black genocide was just called for.
This is deeply asymmetrical. People are just trying to explain where all the hate is coming from, which at this point has reached ridiculous levels, so no one should be surprised the theories are also outrageous, or at least outrageously worded.
This is also a discussion forum, asking for "hard data" is dismissive. Just speak to the premise of the subject matter, and if done honestly, it should make for an interesting discussion. i've already defended "white" people endlessly in many forums, from the most disgusting possible accusations. It doesn't even bother me anymore.
The stupidity on the other side does not justify stupidity on our side, whatever our side is. We respond the exact same way. The fact that they do not, means that there is a problem with them.
Now, it may very well be that blacks are unhappier than other people. Considering widespread belief in the myth of large-scale racism, worse black health outcomes, worse black neighborhoods, it would not surprise me at all. But the evidence provided by OP was dreadful. It's like me citing Ellen Paige and three other degenerates, and then asking why white people are sick in the head.
I do agree with you that blacks are regarded as sacred, even by people on the anti-woke side. But posting nonsense is not the way to break the spell.
I agree largely with your sentiment, however the conversation is so asymmetrical, it is dangerous. We can explain and discuss why the premise of the idea is wrong, but completely dismissing it is adding to the asymmetry, and therefore widening the divide.
If conversations like this damaged black people, then it follows the opposing side is completely destroying white people. Ultimately I'd like to see black people defend themselves just like white people have to constantly defend themselves they're not racists --or-- this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
OP made bad argument, but dismissing in this forums like this, is placing the last nail in the coffin, as no other place will even entertain the idea of allowing it. Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
I do not think so. I think they are just nonsense.
I think most people here, myself included, view this as an offense against logic and not race. It does not harm black people for some anon to say that they are unhappy, no more than for someone to say the dread word 'nigger'. But nonsense is nonsense.
The argument is allowed, but it is also allowed to point out that it is nonsense.