I agree largely with your sentiment, however the conversation is so asymmetrical, it is dangerous. We can explain and discuss why the premise of the idea is wrong, but completely dismissing it is adding to the asymmetry, and therefore widening the divide.
If conversations like this damaged black people, then it follows the opposing side is completely destroying white people. Ultimately I'd like to see black people defend themselves just like white people have to constantly defend themselves they're not racists --or-- this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
OP made bad argument, but dismissing in this forums like this, is placing the last nail in the coffin, as no other place will even entertain the idea of allowing it. Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
I do not think so. I think they are just nonsense.
this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
I think most people here, myself included, view this as an offense against logic and not race. It does not harm black people for some anon to say that they are unhappy, no more than for someone to say the dread word 'nigger'. But nonsense is nonsense.
Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
The argument is allowed, but it is also allowed to point out that it is nonsense.
I agree largely with your sentiment, however the conversation is so asymmetrical, it is dangerous. We can explain and discuss why the premise of the idea is wrong, but completely dismissing it is adding to the asymmetry, and therefore widening the divide.
If conversations like this damaged black people, then it follows the opposing side is completely destroying white people. Ultimately I'd like to see black people defend themselves just like white people have to constantly defend themselves they're not racists --or-- this is not a big deal and we can allow to discuss vague ideas without anyone feeling it's a threat of any kind.
OP made bad argument, but dismissing in this forums like this, is placing the last nail in the coffin, as no other place will even entertain the idea of allowing it. Therefore there is an argument to be made, that leftists and even many black people actually want and need racists, and by having these dismissive attitudes, we're giving in to that by continuing to bottle up ideas we know are there but are unspoken and taboo.
I do not think so. I think they are just nonsense.
I think most people here, myself included, view this as an offense against logic and not race. It does not harm black people for some anon to say that they are unhappy, no more than for someone to say the dread word 'nigger'. But nonsense is nonsense.
The argument is allowed, but it is also allowed to point out that it is nonsense.
Sure, we can say it's nonsense, and I can challenge the people who say it's complete nonsense. Fair enough.