Finally. Hollywood use to be who was talented and looked decent. It devolved to looking great, acting decently, and had good mouth movement. Now, it’s ideological vomit and three actors trying to hold up the industry alone.
I watched "Obsession" because it was all the rage for a minute, revered for being a "real horror movie" or something and better than all the "Hollywood slop."
I'm not upset that it was bad - I'm upset that people whose opinions I respect regarded it as good. Just listened to Critical Drinker's take, and having seen the movie, it sounds like he's doing fan service. He glosses over a lot to discuss the good aspects. Nikki's character was acted well, but that's pretty much all the good things I can say for the movie. It felt exactly like the budget indie flick that it was, though I have to agree it's better than 99% of the turds Hollywood pushes out. But that's an indictment on Hollywood, not praise for Obsession.
[Spoilers Ahead]
Writing - terrible. Pace - terrible. Not horror, barely suspenseful, ending made very little sense - like, it's a Monkey's Paw premise, right? You get what you wished for, but it's twisted because of Man's fallen/imperfect nature, sure. It's contrived, but it's an age old premise that can still work as a plot device, okay.
So where's the Monkey's Paw irony in the guy who wished for $1B taking a bullet to the head for just walking through the door? When he makes the wish, money starts raining down - wouldn't it be more fitting if he was like, buried in money and suffocated? Or killed in a robbery, then the robber could be killed in his ravenous greed or whatever. Also, why does it take him hours to come to the realization that the wish worked (walks through the door saying "It actually worked!" or "It's real" or whatever) when it literally started raining wads of cash on him the moment he made the wish.
Also, wtf with the body of the girl Nikki killed being in the living room or whatever? That surprised Bear, so where was the body before that? And you knew in the opening scene with the cat taking pills that it was Chekhov's suicide - someone was going to die from pills.
Again, not disappointed that it was shitty, disappointed that people who should've seen it was shitty said it was kinda good. /rant
Unfortunately, we're now looking at the outcome to the response of the laws of the extreme.
Woke was so bad that the response to anything that isn't AS woke is that it must be good. The distribution curve has changed on what "good" is because woke was so bad.
So now we're seeing a lot of normies accept woke corposlop that isn't AS bad as the wokest crap out there get preferential treatment because the curve for what's considered "woke" has been raised.
The Overton Window has moved so far Left now that junk like Obsession get called "good" even by people who are supposed to be anti-woke.
In ten year's time we'll have movies with tranny superheroes becoming blockbusrter successes while the so-called anti-woke crowd will call it "good" because maybe it makes a joke at the expense of feminists or does the bare minimum to criticise Pakistani rape gangs.
Yea I just started watching the Barbie movie, and I was taken aback when Nurse Barbie or Doctor Barbie or whatever was a tranny. Very not-passing, sounds exactly like a dude trying to pass, jawline and everything... and I mean, how stupid to have him juxtaposed against a bunch of actual women. His makeup is caked on to remove the hard masculine lines from his face to the point he about looks like a damn geisha, his voice is even deeper than Dylan Mulvaney's, and yet he's cast as a female doll alongside a bunch of actual women with tastefully-done makeup (even for Hollyweird). I had to stop the movie when he spoke because it was so obvious he was a dude. Chicks on too much steroids sound like dudes who huffed helium, but dudes trying to sound like women just sound like gay dudes.
The irony of all the dolls not having genitalia isn't lost on me, but there are clearly-defined male and female dolls. They're genital-free because they're kids' toys. Even Mattel understands shoving adult genitals into kids' faces isn't appropriate, even if the Algae Beety Clueless movement doesn't.
From what I can gather the willow isn't cursed. People in the movie use it and they are happy with the wish. So it seems to me the movie isn't suggesting the willow is inherently evil, it's the intention of the wisher thst cause the problems in the movie.
You get what you wished for, but it's twisted because of Man's fallen/imperfect nature, sure
Literally in my comment above. But we could also explore evidence of a curse.
To quote the first clerk when Bear goes to buy the OWW:
"Don't come back complaining"
Bear: "Do people complain about these?"
C: "Well, they're kind of like, collectibles, so some people don't open them. But the people who do come back and complain."
...small talk...
Bear: "...why do they complain? Because they're mad? Because it doesn't work?"
C: "Yea, or whatever."
Bear: "Or it does work, and it ruins their lives?"
C: "Or they die or wish they were dead..." [mocking, then serious look while nodding]
Bear: "You're good..." [thinking she's acting]
Seems like pretty strong "suggestion" (I would call it ham-fisted declaration, which isn't uncommon in the genre) that it's a Monkey's Paw premise we're about to see unfold... which we do. There's actually never any evidence that "People in the movie use it and they are happy with the wish" - we see exactly two people in the movie use the wish, and both end up dead... so I'm not really sure what your basing your assessment on.
Even when Bear goes back to the shop, then next clerk says:
"Yea yea yea yea yea you made a shitty wish, and now you wanna reverse it." <-- like this is a very common thing with that product.
I guess maybe that line from the clerk "Oh I already used my wish" and the fact that he's still alive makes you think it's usually okay? At no point does he say he's happy with his wish though, so I'm really trying to figure out why you say:
People in the movie use it and they are happy with the wish
Person in the movie says he used it (could be lying as to not get involved with a hysteric stranger covered in blood complaining about his wish) and is possibly happy with the wish (again, undetermined). Everyone else we see use it ends up miserable and/or dead.
And, if it's not cursed, it makes even less sense to shoot the $1B friend guy in the head. The script is way too messy for the praise it got (among other problems), and now I'm pissed that I had to sift/sit through that shitty pacing and dialogue.
Like I said initially, usually the moral of the "be careful what you wish for" story isn't that wishes are inherently cursed, it's that man's desires are often ill-motivated or impure, and our will is imperfect. Therefore when we try to "god" something into existence through our will, the results spiral out of control quickly. But in this case, maybe the thing is cursed. That would give a better explanation for the sort of random bullet to the head for $1B guy.
Billionaire doesn't die because of his own wish. The writer has stated it's not a cursed monkey paw situation, it's to do with the wish being evil and taking away the woman's freewill.
Ian isn't randomly shot dead, Nikki shoots him. The money he wished for had zero to do with his death. There is zero dramatic irony. He wished for money, got money, zero negative outcome from the wish.
And Curry Barker has stated the willows are not inherently evil.
The story is based on The Simpsons version of The Monkeys Paw in which Ned Flanders uses to reverse all the bad wishes. So it isn't the paw that is evil, it's the user.
You get what you wished for, but it's twisted because of Man's fallen/imperfect nature, sure
So now the question is: why did you even suggest that I suggested the wishes were cursed? I only explored that possibility because you brought it up.
But since we're back to the "be careful what you wish for"/Monkey's Paw premise...
The money he wished for had zero to do with his death
WHICH IS THE PROBLEM. The Simpsons/Flanders' thing was comedic effect - the actual Monkey's Paw premise... fuck I've already explained it twice. There's no twist of the greed in his wish being his undoing or anything like that, just "oh yea, and uh... the crazy girl kills him" after he follows Bear home to tell him the wish is real after it was just fucking raining money out of nowhere after making his wish. Why did it take him like an hour to realize that? Why is Sarah's body in there, and where was it in the meantime?
...anyway
So it isn't the paw that is evil, it's the user.
So Bear is evil? No. It's the thing I said - the moral of the same story that's been woven a bajillion times going back to Socrates. Man's desires may be pure, but his intellect and will are not. Therefore godlike powers (wishes, in this case) are doomed. Nm; I just realized I'm explaining algebra to a chimp. Only took repeating myself what, 3 times? I'm improving.
I know a guy that works in sound engineering or some shit and he has been out of work for quite some time. Has worked on some big name shows including some shit about 600# fat people. The struggle is real and not all people affected are terrible humans.
Probably because he has actual talent and isn't a disabled latina tranny.
Fact is, Hollywood was one of the first places DEI hiring took off; they replaced those toxic (read: competent) men with diversiry hires which is precisely why the actual production quality has dropped and not just the content of the stories.
Sucks for your friend, but he would have been forced out whether Hollywood sank or swam.
Weinstein is why Miramax got Good Will Hunting because he actually read the script and asked Affleck and Damon why there was an out of place gay sex scene between the leads. It was a test to see who bothered to look through it.
This is bittersweet. Yes, I hate what Hollywood had become as much as anyone here, but what Hollywood represented was the US exercising it's cultural dominance on the world. At one point, this was a good thing. It's just that the cultural output has slowly been poisoned over the 20th century, and in the 21st it had accelerated. This was by design. With the death of Hollywood, and Korea and Japan under an accelerated assault on their cultural output like the US and Europe, India and China will be the primary exporters of media.
True, but for a while they had to still give the public what they wanted. Stories of American exceptionalism, rugged and stoic men along with frantic emotional women who needed to be put in their place. Stories that rebuked communism and extols the virtues of whites and Christianity. Little by little these values were subverted and deconstructed, until the inverse was the industry standard.
India and China will both have a high hurdle imposing cultural domination though, censorship, cultural narrowness, and blatant propaganda doesn't make for a wider audience for their entertainment media in the West.
Which is why if they're smart they'll keep their propaganda subtle, like Hollywood used to. Distract the audience with sexy women and macho men being badass and they'll accept almost anything.
I'm sure if you go back with our knowledge you will be able to spot early propaganda. I sure did in Norris' movies although they're not that old in terms of human lives, they're fairly old in terms of propaganda focuses. Foci...?
The hurdle wouldn't be too hard to overcome, but a lot of it boils down to competence. Does India and China actually have competent and skilled filmmakers?
Films like War from 2019 was one of India's biggest film exports because it was essentially everything that Hollywood USED to make before it turned into pure DEI-slop. But War is a rarity among India's output.
Content wise, both China and India focus on having handsome leads who are stoic and masculine with beautiful female co-stars, but oftentimes the stories are kind of dumb or the production values are inconsistent. I think most audiences wouldn't care about the blatant nationalistic propaganda India and China are known for if the films were actually entertaining, something that Hollywood used to be able to do before being overwhelmed by Liberal Progressive ideologies.
lol, because of the implication.
Go to Hollywood right now, today. Prepare to be severely disappointed, the place is a filthy dump full of questionable humans.
I've seen some seedy-looking places in my time and Hollywood is right there at the top of that list.
No, thank you.
Finally. Hollywood use to be who was talented and looked decent. It devolved to looking great, acting decently, and had good mouth movement. Now, it’s ideological vomit and three actors trying to hold up the industry alone.
I watched "Obsession" because it was all the rage for a minute, revered for being a "real horror movie" or something and better than all the "Hollywood slop."
I'm not upset that it was bad - I'm upset that people whose opinions I respect regarded it as good. Just listened to Critical Drinker's take, and having seen the movie, it sounds like he's doing fan service. He glosses over a lot to discuss the good aspects. Nikki's character was acted well, but that's pretty much all the good things I can say for the movie. It felt exactly like the budget indie flick that it was, though I have to agree it's better than 99% of the turds Hollywood pushes out. But that's an indictment on Hollywood, not praise for Obsession.
[Spoilers Ahead]
Writing - terrible. Pace - terrible. Not horror, barely suspenseful, ending made very little sense - like, it's a Monkey's Paw premise, right? You get what you wished for, but it's twisted because of Man's fallen/imperfect nature, sure. It's contrived, but it's an age old premise that can still work as a plot device, okay.
So where's the Monkey's Paw irony in the guy who wished for $1B taking a bullet to the head for just walking through the door? When he makes the wish, money starts raining down - wouldn't it be more fitting if he was like, buried in money and suffocated? Or killed in a robbery, then the robber could be killed in his ravenous greed or whatever. Also, why does it take him hours to come to the realization that the wish worked (walks through the door saying "It actually worked!" or "It's real" or whatever) when it literally started raining wads of cash on him the moment he made the wish.
Also, wtf with the body of the girl Nikki killed being in the living room or whatever? That surprised Bear, so where was the body before that? And you knew in the opening scene with the cat taking pills that it was Chekhov's suicide - someone was going to die from pills.
Again, not disappointed that it was shitty, disappointed that people who should've seen it was shitty said it was kinda good. /rant
Unfortunately, we're now looking at the outcome to the response of the laws of the extreme.
Woke was so bad that the response to anything that isn't AS woke is that it must be good. The distribution curve has changed on what "good" is because woke was so bad.
So now we're seeing a lot of normies accept woke corposlop that isn't AS bad as the wokest crap out there get preferential treatment because the curve for what's considered "woke" has been raised.
The Overton Window has moved so far Left now that junk like Obsession get called "good" even by people who are supposed to be anti-woke.
In ten year's time we'll have movies with tranny superheroes becoming blockbusrter successes while the so-called anti-woke crowd will call it "good" because maybe it makes a joke at the expense of feminists or does the bare minimum to criticise Pakistani rape gangs.
Yea I just started watching the Barbie movie, and I was taken aback when Nurse Barbie or Doctor Barbie or whatever was a tranny. Very not-passing, sounds exactly like a dude trying to pass, jawline and everything... and I mean, how stupid to have him juxtaposed against a bunch of actual women. His makeup is caked on to remove the hard masculine lines from his face to the point he about looks like a damn geisha, his voice is even deeper than Dylan Mulvaney's, and yet he's cast as a female doll alongside a bunch of actual women with tastefully-done makeup (even for Hollyweird). I had to stop the movie when he spoke because it was so obvious he was a dude. Chicks on too much steroids sound like dudes who huffed helium, but dudes trying to sound like women just sound like gay dudes.
The irony of all the dolls not having genitalia isn't lost on me, but there are clearly-defined male and female dolls. They're genital-free because they're kids' toys. Even Mattel understands shoving adult genitals into kids' faces isn't appropriate, even if the Algae Beety Clueless movement doesn't.
From what I can gather the willow isn't cursed. People in the movie use it and they are happy with the wish. So it seems to me the movie isn't suggesting the willow is inherently evil, it's the intention of the wisher thst cause the problems in the movie.
Literally in my comment above. But we could also explore evidence of a curse.
To quote the first clerk when Bear goes to buy the OWW:
...small talk...
Seems like pretty strong "suggestion" (I would call it ham-fisted declaration, which isn't uncommon in the genre) that it's a Monkey's Paw premise we're about to see unfold... which we do. There's actually never any evidence that "People in the movie use it and they are happy with the wish" - we see exactly two people in the movie use the wish, and both end up dead... so I'm not really sure what your basing your assessment on.
Even when Bear goes back to the shop, then next clerk says:
"Yea yea yea yea yea you made a shitty wish, and now you wanna reverse it." <-- like this is a very common thing with that product.
I guess maybe that line from the clerk "Oh I already used my wish" and the fact that he's still alive makes you think it's usually okay? At no point does he say he's happy with his wish though, so I'm really trying to figure out why you say:
Person in the movie says he used it (could be lying as to not get involved with a hysteric stranger covered in blood complaining about his wish) and is possibly happy with the wish (again, undetermined). Everyone else we see use it ends up miserable and/or dead.
And, if it's not cursed, it makes even less sense to shoot the $1B friend guy in the head. The script is way too messy for the praise it got (among other problems), and now I'm pissed that I had to sift/sit through that shitty pacing and dialogue.
Like I said initially, usually the moral of the "be careful what you wish for" story isn't that wishes are inherently cursed, it's that man's desires are often ill-motivated or impure, and our will is imperfect. Therefore when we try to "god" something into existence through our will, the results spiral out of control quickly. But in this case, maybe the thing is cursed. That would give a better explanation for the sort of random bullet to the head for $1B guy.
Billionaire doesn't die because of his own wish. The writer has stated it's not a cursed monkey paw situation, it's to do with the wish being evil and taking away the woman's freewill.
Ian isn't randomly shot dead, Nikki shoots him. The money he wished for had zero to do with his death. There is zero dramatic irony. He wished for money, got money, zero negative outcome from the wish.
And Curry Barker has stated the willows are not inherently evil.
The story is based on The Simpsons version of The Monkeys Paw in which Ned Flanders uses to reverse all the bad wishes. So it isn't the paw that is evil, it's the user.
To quote my original comment again
So now the question is: why did you even suggest that I suggested the wishes were cursed? I only explored that possibility because you brought it up.
But since we're back to the "be careful what you wish for"/Monkey's Paw premise...
WHICH IS THE PROBLEM. The Simpsons/Flanders' thing was comedic effect - the actual Monkey's Paw premise... fuck I've already explained it twice. There's no twist of the greed in his wish being his undoing or anything like that, just "oh yea, and uh... the crazy girl kills him" after he follows Bear home to tell him the wish is real after it was just fucking raining money out of nowhere after making his wish. Why did it take him like an hour to realize that? Why is Sarah's body in there, and where was it in the meantime?
...anyway
So Bear is evil? No. It's the thing I said - the moral of the same story that's been woven a bajillion times going back to Socrates. Man's desires may be pure, but his intellect and will are not. Therefore godlike powers (wishes, in this case) are doomed. Nm; I just realized I'm explaining algebra to a chimp. Only took repeating myself what, 3 times? I'm improving.
Okay
The Bruce Willis movies he did before he died were pretty good, and also a good example of your point.
Bruce Willis is still alive. He does have hardcore dementia though.
If you saw some of those movies he made during Covid it was as close to 'weekend at bernies' as you can get in real life.
basically the same thing
I can't keep up with celebritydeathhoax.
Would that make it harder, or easier, to get into a role?
aRe yOu fRoM tHe fUtuRe?
And nothing of value was lost. Just make sure to build the wall around them so they cannot escape.
Escape from LA style?
I'll volunteer for Arizona Border Patrol
I know a guy that works in sound engineering or some shit and he has been out of work for quite some time. Has worked on some big name shows including some shit about 600# fat people. The struggle is real and not all people affected are terrible humans.
they might not be terrible humans.
but they thought it was ok to have their careers rely on terrible humans and work for them.
or in wide terms.... 'part of the problem'.
Yeah i can relate to that. I'm in a similar position. I wouldn't cry if my industry crashed and burned tomorrow but it sucks not having easy money.
Listen, they're not the THE machine, they're only COGS that make the machine run. Can't blame them.
Probably because he has actual talent and isn't a disabled latina tranny.
Fact is, Hollywood was one of the first places DEI hiring took off; they replaced those toxic (read: competent) men with diversiry hires which is precisely why the actual production quality has dropped and not just the content of the stories.
Sucks for your friend, but he would have been forced out whether Hollywood sank or swam.
Women took over after metoo and it didnt even take a decade to collapse impressive.
Hollywood deserves the destruction and so does anyone else who comes along to pump poison into the west.
Oy vey!
Lets be real. Movies were at least somewhat bearable with harvey weinstein there lol. Just like how blizzard was peak with frat boy culture.
All that became lame and gay.
Weinstein is why Miramax got Good Will Hunting because he actually read the script and asked Affleck and Damon why there was an out of place gay sex scene between the leads. It was a test to see who bothered to look through it.
Now it would be seen as the main plot point.
Harvey was a disgusting kike but the women knew what they were doing
They’re all going to be working for uwe boll soon.
What a timeline.
This is bittersweet. Yes, I hate what Hollywood had become as much as anyone here, but what Hollywood represented was the US exercising it's cultural dominance on the world. At one point, this was a good thing. It's just that the cultural output has slowly been poisoned over the 20th century, and in the 21st it had accelerated. This was by design. With the death of Hollywood, and Korea and Japan under an accelerated assault on their cultural output like the US and Europe, India and China will be the primary exporters of media.
Every single major studio was founded by at least one Jew. You may want to revisit your conception of American culture.
Hollywood itself was founded by Jews who didn't want to pay Thomas Edison royalties for his Kinetograph.
True, but for a while they had to still give the public what they wanted. Stories of American exceptionalism, rugged and stoic men along with frantic emotional women who needed to be put in their place. Stories that rebuked communism and extols the virtues of whites and Christianity. Little by little these values were subverted and deconstructed, until the inverse was the industry standard.
India and China will both have a high hurdle imposing cultural domination though, censorship, cultural narrowness, and blatant propaganda doesn't make for a wider audience for their entertainment media in the West.
Which is why if they're smart they'll keep their propaganda subtle, like Hollywood used to. Distract the audience with sexy women and macho men being badass and they'll accept almost anything.
It started so slowly, didn't it?
They got far too confident and now it's all a shishow of leftist pukeworthy propaganda, one gigantic flop after another.
I'm sure if you go back with our knowledge you will be able to spot early propaganda. I sure did in Norris' movies although they're not that old in terms of human lives, they're fairly old in terms of propaganda focuses. Foci...?
The hurdle wouldn't be too hard to overcome, but a lot of it boils down to competence. Does India and China actually have competent and skilled filmmakers?
Films like War from 2019 was one of India's biggest film exports because it was essentially everything that Hollywood USED to make before it turned into pure DEI-slop. But War is a rarity among India's output.
Content wise, both China and India focus on having handsome leads who are stoic and masculine with beautiful female co-stars, but oftentimes the stories are kind of dumb or the production values are inconsistent. I think most audiences wouldn't care about the blatant nationalistic propaganda India and China are known for if the films were actually entertaining, something that Hollywood used to be able to do before being overwhelmed by Liberal Progressive ideologies.
Tel Aviv will just stop outsourcing to Hollywood instead.
Im sure Bollywood is champing at the bit to redeem that sweet propaganda fund.
I have only seen 3-4 movies in the theatre over the last 10 years, even then it was because a friend or family member wanted to go.
Laughs in AI.