Game pass must be tanking
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I can’t wait for Xbox to go bankrupt and be shut down.
The games will be DEI wokeslop too.
you will have people not turning off their consoles
Too bad they own like 2/3 of AAA after they bought Zenimax-bethesda and Blizzard-activision
If they do nothing but release flops and sit on IPs without using them, it doesn’t matter what they own. It just makes the eventual sell-off that much sweeter.
We are so close to confirmation cans now lol
I think this would suggest that Microsoft wants to cover more of the market. If you have a monopoly then it's better to create a bunch of price tiers and overcharge for the highest tiers.
I thought the Xbox owners thought the price increase was too much for what they get and unsubscribed. This ad tier seems like a compromise from the management trying to get some of those members back without admitting they were wrong in the price increases.
I loved Xbox and Game Pass before the price increase. Then my Xbox broke, and apparently fixing it was as much as a new one. Then they increased the price of a new one. Was playing Game Pass on PC though so I didn’t much care. Then they increased the price. I have 2-3 free months of Game Pass I could redeem, but already jumped ship and bought plenty of the games I wanted to play on Steam. Never going back, nor would I consider it. They fucked up hard and deserve what’s coming to them.
Doesn’t help that all the games most people want to play now are old on top of that, largely because new releases tend to be garbage, they cost $80 and up, and all the promised games to be released one day never really happened or bombed. You can easily get those for less than the price of one month of Game Pass.
This is what happens when they charge $30/month for their subscription service.
A 2 minute ad per session sounds like a really good deal. The problem is that can be taken further and in much more abusive ways. This just sounds like a means of getting people acclimated for when the whole fist goes up the ass.
We've seen this a trillion times before, they'll start this service off as a loss leader and once they have enough market share they will make the tier cost $7.99 a month or you can stay free but now it's 5 minutes of ads.
The verbiage is confusing to me.
Does "users [streaming] owned digital games" mean titles owned by the Microsoft GamePass service or digital games pre-purchased previously by the user?
And does streaming simply mean playing GamePass games via the cloud? Or is this ad tier targeted specifically at creators wishing to use GP to stream games for their audience?
It doesn't seem that complicated. I assume it means:
#2 meaning that you bought something digitally on their service already. You could now play it via cloud shit after sitting through ads instead of paying a sub.
Tanking or they want loads of people to buy in then trap them in a walled garden.
Maybe later they can do an Xbox buyback where trading the console in gives 2 or 3 years free cloud access. The dystopian future is upon us.
They're doing everything they can to kill home computing and data ownership.
2 minutes per session? That isn’t too bad, I’d expect it to be worse out of the gate.
Thin end of the wedge.
Reject it in totality.
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Remember Horse Armor.
Meh, if you can play games you want to play at the expense of Microsoft then do it. Microsoft isn't going to put Steam out of business anytime soon. The problem with gamepass is it's mostly modern slop I'll never want to play anyway.
No.
That feeds adoption of the platform and the practice, which then takes root and grows into something worse and now is harder to remove. You already have a Steam backlog, just go play that instead.
This guy thinks Lucy tempts you into the pot with convenience before boiling the water, lol
Dude, convenience literally is the mechanism of the frog boiling the water.
Netflix is the way it is now because of the siren song of convenience.
Piracy levels dropped when Netflix was good.
And look where we're at now. People don't give a crap about video quality, physical media is dying despite it looking and sounding 5 times better than streaming media,
digital media gets to erase history, put disclaimers in front of films about them being "problematic", etc.
And why? Because they offered something attractive up front that people didn't forsee the consequences of. Netflix didn't seem like it was going to destroy blu ray collecting at the time, early 2010s...but now 4K UHD's launch at 30+ dollars, and you can't even buy blu rays for less than 20 bucks hardly anymore.
It used to be, just 5 years ago or so, you could pick of like 70% of older blu rays for less than 10 bucks.
Want a blu ray of an 80s movie you remember fondly? 5.99 on amazon.
Now that same movie will be like 22 dollars on Amazon, because physical movies are becoming a niche area for collectors and whenever something is "for collectors" they know they can charge an arm and a leg for it and morons will still buy it because collectors are either rich or they're just foolish in terms of saving their money and making wise purchasing decisions.
Yeah, it's a bit of a tangent to the point of conveince, but it was the convenience of netflix that made all the services want the same thing, so every film studio has their own streaming service and now streaming is 10 times more expensive than cable because there's like 40 streaming services. Hence why piracy is going up again.
Convience is the mechanism for boiling water in a huge amount of areas.
What the fuck are you on about?
It starts out looking reasonable. Then a few months later, Microsoft changes their policy and now makes it so you need to watch two more minutes of ads every half-hour or so. Then ad sessions double. And more of them become more about spewing political propaganda in your face than selling you a product. Eventually, you get fed up and cough up the money to switch to a higher-tier service without ads, but then Microsoft begins forcing you through them on the paid services as well. And the next thing you know, Microsoft's competitors are forcing commercials on you as well because they all saw how they were doing and realized it worked because suckers everywhere bought it hook, line, and sinker. And now gaming is irreversibly changed forever for the worst. Again.
There are some things where a hard line NEEDS to be drawn.
Wait until session is defined as 30 mins and then in 3 months its 20 minutes, then in 6 it’s 5.99 a month and you can pay 1 dollar a session to skip ads for 30 minutes.
If it gets enough traction, they'll just mandate it in their platform API. Devs will have to provide hooks for it. Then you can look forward to an ad on every loading screen and before every match.
Be glad it's bad. If they did GamePass, Cloud Only for $5/mo people might actually do it and normalize cloudshit.
"It's just horse armor."
The fact so many people are saying this is a "good deal" basically shows that they will bend over for it and then complain about it several years later when there are ads every ten minutes of gameplay and you still have to watch ads even paying 20 quid a month, just they space them out every two hours.
They already have done it with streaming services.
Seriously, it's r/gaming tier. I think gamers are just another breed of braindead consoomer sheep at this point.
You are the reason we are where we are.
They have released maybe four console exclusive games worth buying in the past two years. There is no reason to own an Xbox over a Playstation if you must own a console. Their stunt with gamepass pricing is just proof that they're getting desperate and looking for excuses to try something shifty.
Curious, what are those four exclusive games?
I honestly can't think of any.
I can only think of three. Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor, Grounded 2, Senua 2 (at launch was exclusive) There's probably a 4th in age of empires or something but I haven't fired the thing up in months.
Ah, Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor isn't on PC? I didn't know they made another version of that game.
I guess I should check out Grounded 2 -- seemed like more survival slop, but I did like the Honey, I Shrunk The Kids concept. The first game's gameplay just wasn't very enthused, which is why I didn't bother. But if the sequel improved the gameplay I could see why people might be interested.
Senua 2 looked like more AAA-walking sim cinematic slop, but I can see how people who enjoy those slower paced, Sony-style cinematic games might enjoy it.
DRG:S is certainly on PC, and it's been there longer. For those like myself who are stuck with console only (a lazy contractor destroyed my $7000 PC) I'm glad to have it ported any way I can. Xbox is currently the only way.
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