RIP Stack Overflow
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2020 - But I searched for 9 hours and couldn’t find any duplicate
2022 - That’s a GREAT QUESTION ✅
Should be a warning about what happens when you let moderation into your community.
The best thing about this is knowing that the StackOverflow tranny moderators won't have any questions to indiscriminately close with no reasons and snarky responses if anyone complains.
Gatekeep, gatekeep, gatekeep. Don't give activists, trolls and troublemakers an inch.
You mean troons?
The users of stackoverflow were a demonic cross between Wikipedia editors and Reddit moderators. So, good riddance
Makes me wonder about the future though because LLMs aren’t actually able to reason or problem solve and likely rely heavily on being trained on stack overflow for solving obscure coding bugs.
I assume OpenAi is getting tons of training data from your daily coding queries vs what works / codex etc.
But the knowledge is 100% private now
Lol said the scorpion, lmao even.
You forgot the jeets.
Oh no, anyway...
Never got any actual help on Stackoverflow. Not on any of the accounts I made, even after building one up the hard way, helping literal grade schoolers (or those I assumed were grade schoolers based on the triviality of they were asking).
Every. Single. Fucking. Time. I'd spend an hour preparing my question with relevant screenshots, code excerpts formatted with the correct indentation, refreshing obsessively every half hour and for what?
So some "Gold Medal Cornholer" fag can close it in 5 minutes with a snarky "heh. sounds like homework to me. shoulda listened to your lecturer better."
Nah, fuck that. In fact I wish I could've gone back in time and told my past self not to waste time with that course that would be made obsolete inside of 10 years.
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With that mod attitude, no wonder people prefer ChatGPT even if it is wrong many times. At least it is polite.
It can be corrected as well.
Stack Overflow might've sucked, but it was a containment site for the kinds of people that you didn't want anywhere else.
Sorta like Tumblr before they killed that.
This. We saw a severe.. severe flood of mental illness and commies when tumblr died. Twitter and reddit became mental institutions. And that had consequences for our culture.
God when I was doing my degree there were so many self-imporant assholes on there.
'Sounds like homework' they used to say. Yeah, idiot, that's why I'm here asking questions about it. Good riddance.
Then there's reddit...
"Why are you asking such a stupid question?"
"RTFM."
"You're doing it all wrong. I'm not going to tell you how or why, nor give you guidance on what I mean...I'm just going to tell you to GTFO and never try again."
"Did you ever get this to work?"
"Bump."
"Why are you bumping a week old thread?"
And the great one: "Just use this completely different framework that is untested, misses half the features and is developed by a psychotic lunatic that added a self destruct line in it just to fight <insert current thing>"
tbf that behavior goes back decades - people would do that on IRC or usenet
Yeah but they couldn't close threads to prevent discussion. Most they could do is threaten to ban you from the channel if you didn't stop talking about something.
The problem with SO and Reddit is the empowered assholes prevent the non-assholes from having their conversations anyway.
True
Pretty much horrible when shitholes got a cheap and easy way to get access to the rest of the world.
The only "sub" I used there was Superuser and it was to ask questions on fixing my own damn computer because I was stumped.
It wasn't the launch of chatgpt.
It was google intentionally destroying search quality to make people have to click more.
Google Analytics and Core Web Vitals killed everything useful.
Google making their search intentionally worse was genuinely one of the most evil things they have ever done.
My YouTube search is completely retarded. I have to search on Google and select Videos tab to find what I need.
Youtubr curates and makes sure you dont see wrong think videos.
But what will ChatGPT use to dredge up answers once there's no stack overflow threads to fuel its training data? This is the wrinkle I don't see getting addressed.
The slopmageddon is nigh.
Read an study today that filtered out new studies based on whether they used GPTisms. They found that people who used LLMs to help write their studies had significantly faster career advancement, but that the AI based studies seemed to break significantly less scientific ground, and had narrower subject matter, because it really only helps on already tread ground.
Same for derivative videos, derivative forum answers.
The slop will be fed slop and only get sloppier, but it is difficult enough to recognize that there will still be personal gain from using it.
It is why certain billionaires are pushing human recognition devices, so they can have an advantage at training against things less likely to be slop and can corner things more by using it to disallow scraping. They will likely fail, and be fed slop anyway.
Right now AI is still getting better because of increases in ram, but eventually that will hit a limit in that a larger window only helps if you have useful things to put in it, and things will get worse.
RTFM. It will be back to the old days.
Too bad no one makes manuals that are worth a damn or kept up to date anymore. Go ask the sysadmin crowd about Microsoft's ever changing interface for their cloud infrastructure.
It's a massive problem with everything.
OpenAi is getting tons of training data from your daily coding queries vs what works + codex etc. But the knowledge is 100% private forever
All those Rust faggots and Clojure (((()_))))))
AI and snarky users, a great combo to destroy your forum.
But AI chat it's don't tell me that my question is dumb, or off topic, then tell me a solution to a problem I'm not having, and then want it upvoted and considered answered.
I don't get how this happened. You just don't get that human element from ChatGPT.
It's starting to try that now.
I remember this site for the simple reason that no one involved with computers in the 2010s, especially with certain things like programming or web design, could possibly avoid it. If you Googled something about C or C++ or Java or HTML5 or CSS, some programming algorithm, or something about data structures, you'd probably have a Stack Overflow result somewhere on page 1.
I suspect that that's still the case, but I got all of that stuff out of my life before the AI explosion around 2022 or so. The first time I began to realize that an AI explosion was beginning was when I read that something called 'ChatGPT', of which I had theretofore never heard, was causing a big problem in universities, because idiots were starting to have it write their assignments. I realized that this would make the education system even worse, because people could now get degrees while learning much less of the course content. Thus making degrees less indicative of a person's knowledge and thus driving credentialism to ever-greater heights.
Disinterested in AI because of observations such as this and the obnoxious deepfakery that popped up a few years earlier - another AI-driven, predatory thing so remarkably useful for scammers - I only started using ChatGPT infrequently in 2025. I needed some code to deal with very large number types that C and C++ can't seem to deal with without some extra stuff, whereas the language I used can do what I needed out of the box. Problem: I didn't know anything about the language. It didn't matter, because ChatGPT usefully generated working code.
Thus, my conclusion is that ChatGPT blows Stack Overflow out of the water. Faster responses than human answers, generates code that sometimes works upfront. Stack Overflow, by contrast, is full of people whining about 'duplicate' questions, 'homework' questions, etc.
What is so insidious about AI - like the internet more generally - is that while it is helpful in various respects, its helpfulness also enables much criminality and evil, such as being able to create convincing impersonations of figures such as 'Mr. Beast' that are then used to scam the gullible ('Mr. Beast just launched this new online casino!). Other disturbing cases include people who develop strong romantic attachment to AIs and the absolutely unacceptable cases of AIs encouraging users, most often impressionable teens, to commit self-harm or even suicide.
Government regulation needs to come down heavy on any confirmed cases of the latter: make AI companies cough up millions every time this happens, and they will be sure to fix it. There is absolutely zero justifiable reason that AI should be encouraging anyone to self-harm. I don't care about the freedom or rights of some homosexual Jew like Sam Altman or his company. Fix the problems that you're causing or get crushed: that should be the ultimatum that all of these out-of-control companies should face.
SO is usually the first result in my search so technically I use it all the time.
I like to follow the comments on the announcement posts. The commenters are just itching to close each announcement as a duplicate, if they could.
Not terribly displeased to see stack overflow sink into the tar pit like the dinosaurs. That place has been a cesspool of woke crotchety mods for a while now.
Couldn't happen to nicer people.
Could also be because it's a shit site.
They need to be a little more rude to remove these 0+ questions. Time to hire more moderators.
where do you think it's code creator was trained?