There is plenty of retarded stuff Trump does to shit on him over (the stuff in the OP included), but this is just leftoid-tier criticism. Tariffs have already been raised across the board. Just because he is repeatedly using threats of even higher tariffs as a negotiating tactic, doesn't mean it's for insider trading. Anyone who believes tariffs are good should appreciate the net positve of all the trade commotion this year. And if you don't believe in tariffs and think there should be zero barrier to goods made by slaves in the third world, that's a different conversation entirely. The more understandable criticism would be he should go harder and raise them even more on certain countries, but the counterpoint to that would be that gradual bumps are less of a shock.
I made out like a bandit earlier this year because I saw through his negotiating tactics and all the media panic over tariffs and invested accordingly. I can attest to you that I am not in Trump's inner circle, but I've certainly been accused of being weirder things on this board...
Just because he is repeatedly using threats of even higher tariffs as a negotiating tactic, doesn't mean it's for insider trading.
But it may be. Who knows? Just because leftists say it, doesn't mean it's automatically false. There's so much BS surrounding Trump, it's almost impossible to figure out what's true and what's false. Leftists may be cultists and assume everything negative about him is true, but do I also have to be a cultist and assume that it's false?
Sure, but I'm responding to someone who seems oh so certain that it must be for insider trading. If there was some insider trading going on, I wouldn't be shocked. It's certainly greater than a 0% chance, perhaps even over 25%. But given the competing explanations and weak circumstantial evidence, I see no reason to think it's more than that, but that can always change. And of course, rogue insider trading wouldn't immediately imply systemic, intentional, sanctioned insider trading. Which is what that user was clearly insinuating is happening.
There is plenty of retarded stuff Trump does to shit on him over (the stuff in the OP included), but this is just leftoid-tier criticism.
In case it wasn't clear I wasn't criticizing Trump for raising tariffs. I was calling him out for being blatantly corrupt. So if that is leftoid-tier criticism I have but one question. Does that logic only apply to Trump or to congress too? Trump ran his campaigns on draining the swamp. In his first term he didn't do anything. This time around he's only switched some of the swamp people out but hasn't actually touched the swamp itself. In some ways he's actually expanding it.
The part where you're implying he's negotiating the very public and whiplashing way that he does just so people close to him can insider trade is the leftoid tier criticism because it lacks basis in anything other than orange man bad.
He forced TikTok to be sold to a Jewish billionaire because Israel was losing the PR war on that platform in spectacular fashion. He forces universities to stop DEI bullshit just to force them to implement DEI bullshit exclusively for Jews.
Yeah, I think he'll be more than willing to negotiate publicly when he doesn't have to just to manipulate the market so the very friends he's already bending over backwards for can profit from it.
But even if he isn't he's still enabling insider trading and not shutting that shit down. That is corruption. Whether you like it or not and giving him a pass for it is cuck behavior.
First paragraph is legendary levels of moving the goalposts. We are talking about alleged insider trading as it pertains to tariffs. I agree the TikTok shit is cucked Israel first BS but that is not what we are talking about in this comment chain.
But even if he isn't he's still enabling insider trading and not shutting that shit down
Again, based on nothing beyond simple orange man bad. The meer existence of market fluctuations at his words somehow proves insider trading to you. No basis. No proof. Just orange man bad. By this logic, I am insider trading by simply not being a retard and being able to see through his negotiating tactics.
First paragraph is legendary levels of moving the goalposts.
It's not moving the goalpost. It's circumstantial evidence. That and insider trading verifiably happening (like the massive bitcoin short 30 minutes before his announcement) is the basis for why I'm accusing him of enabling insider trading.
Again, based on nothing beyond simple orange man bad.
As I've just explained, no. Not orange man bad. Accusing Trump of being Israel first is also not based on orange man bad. It's based on him bending over backwards for Israel at every conceivable opportunity.
By this logic, I am insider trading by simply not being a retard and being able to see through his negotiating tactics.
If you short bitcoin for millions of dollars with a newly created wallet 30 minutes before Trump announces the China tariffs then yes, you're very likely guilty of insider trading.
Tariffs are only beneficial if they're in place long enough and stable enough to build up industry, otherwise the consumer is just getting indirectly taxed for things that have no domestic alternative
For certain things, absolutely. But for most products, it isn't like there are absolutely no American options, they are just being undercut by cheap foreign shit. But I definitely agree that the lion's share of benefit from tariffs are mid to long term, and I think it is unlikely much of that benefit would be realized before someone comes along and undoes them.
The problem is there is zero basis for it. It's reddit-tier filling in the blanks through the lens of orange man bad despite there being a more reasonable explanation.
There may be someone somewhere who catches wind of info ahead of time and uses it to insider trade. But absent that proof (and believe me if there was any, we'd have seen it), and proof it was intentionally allowed, I am left to assume that is just how Trump negotiates, which is an easy assumption to make because it is well in-line with how he has acted for a decade now.
The argument reminds me of the NO WAR FOR OIL! protests around the Iraq War. There were many reasons to be against that war, and hidden agendas for carrying it out, but 'we wanted to steal their oil' was the most inane astroturfed libdem take that distracted from legitimate opposition. Especially when as Trump pointed out we didn't even take the oil like we should have.
Nah its called basic reasoning. Pols all engage in corruption and trump is into shit like crypto crap and selling merch and shit. His family etc are definitely profiting from his presidency.
I don't need a SOOOOURCE to know they are making money with the political theater.
He doesn't want "WOKE, SOCIALIST, and ANTI-AMERICAN Ideology" in US universities so he creates financial incentives to put even more of the woke socialists into universities.
He's the most vocal about it, but it's sadly a standard presidential attitude. The last time a president told israel "no" was JFK when he told them not to develop nukes.
Someone needs to make an "illusion of choice" meme that puts that picture on Trump pulling out a chair for bibi right next to the picture of Biden taking a knee for bibi.
Yeah, people get really hung up on the fact that he is at least more open about it. Almost no one would do a thing less than he has regarding Israel, they'd just completely dodge the topic and not acknowledge it out loud like always.
Yeah that’s true, but let’s not pretend it’s an admirable behavior to be openly owned by j’ws. Obviously the problem is equally as bad because the results are equally bad.
Its not admirable but its better for us to see what is happening. Its also not something we have a choice on in reality. Both sides will be pro-Israel and Jew and we are a long ways from breaking out of the two party system that means we have to pick from one of the two.
But people keep treating it like its some shocking revelation that should change everything. When he himself has been pretty open about his pro-Israel/Jew stance the entire time without much obfuscation on that.
I said this back when he won the election and put Jew banker Howard lutnick as his head of transition and I was universally down voted by the hopium huffing copers that just wanted to celebrate "ourguy" winning.
Nick is exactly what many accuse Trump of being: a subversive that pretends to be on your side 90% of the time and rugpulls you 10% of the time when it matters. That's why people don't like him.
In this case, you found something in the 90%. When Nick endorsed Gavin Newsom, that was something in the 10%.
All politicians in the last century have been consistent. Why would you even ask that? They consistently worship jews and obey everything they’re told. They consistently lie to whites and only cause us harm.
This is just Republicans serving the only constituents they care about. Maybe Americans will get a political party that represents them in this country too someday. I wouldn't hold my breath though, and will be voting anything but Republican until it happens.
Whites have a learning disability. Cuckservatives within my own family will cry tears over antisemitism, literally, but go blank when I ask about Austin Metcalf or the systemic discrimination against whites. Its really pathetic.
Hitler mentions this is mein Kampf, a people that have been demoralized so completely that they have lost the will for their very own self preservation.
He’s not beating the allegations.
They are a cancer on our nation.
Everyone's, everywhere, every time.
And im getting sick of their antiWhitism
At least he's putting tariffs on countries so his inner circle can make a lot of profit on insider trading before he withdraws them again.
Reddit moment.
There is plenty of retarded stuff Trump does to shit on him over (the stuff in the OP included), but this is just leftoid-tier criticism. Tariffs have already been raised across the board. Just because he is repeatedly using threats of even higher tariffs as a negotiating tactic, doesn't mean it's for insider trading. Anyone who believes tariffs are good should appreciate the net positve of all the trade commotion this year. And if you don't believe in tariffs and think there should be zero barrier to goods made by slaves in the third world, that's a different conversation entirely. The more understandable criticism would be he should go harder and raise them even more on certain countries, but the counterpoint to that would be that gradual bumps are less of a shock.
I made out like a bandit earlier this year because I saw through his negotiating tactics and all the media panic over tariffs and invested accordingly. I can attest to you that I am not in Trump's inner circle, but I've certainly been accused of being weirder things on this board...
But it may be. Who knows? Just because leftists say it, doesn't mean it's automatically false. There's so much BS surrounding Trump, it's almost impossible to figure out what's true and what's false. Leftists may be cultists and assume everything negative about him is true, but do I also have to be a cultist and assume that it's false?
Sure, but I'm responding to someone who seems oh so certain that it must be for insider trading. If there was some insider trading going on, I wouldn't be shocked. It's certainly greater than a 0% chance, perhaps even over 25%. But given the competing explanations and weak circumstantial evidence, I see no reason to think it's more than that, but that can always change. And of course, rogue insider trading wouldn't immediately imply systemic, intentional, sanctioned insider trading. Which is what that user was clearly insinuating is happening.
Your views are reasonable. It's unreasonable to claim that it's definitely not happening or that it's definitely happening.
In case it wasn't clear I wasn't criticizing Trump for raising tariffs. I was calling him out for being blatantly corrupt. So if that is leftoid-tier criticism I have but one question. Does that logic only apply to Trump or to congress too? Trump ran his campaigns on draining the swamp. In his first term he didn't do anything. This time around he's only switched some of the swamp people out but hasn't actually touched the swamp itself. In some ways he's actually expanding it.
The part where you're implying he's negotiating the very public and whiplashing way that he does just so people close to him can insider trade is the leftoid tier criticism because it lacks basis in anything other than orange man bad.
He forced TikTok to be sold to a Jewish billionaire because Israel was losing the PR war on that platform in spectacular fashion. He forces universities to stop DEI bullshit just to force them to implement DEI bullshit exclusively for Jews.
Yeah, I think he'll be more than willing to negotiate publicly when he doesn't have to just to manipulate the market so the very friends he's already bending over backwards for can profit from it.
But even if he isn't he's still enabling insider trading and not shutting that shit down. That is corruption. Whether you like it or not and giving him a pass for it is cuck behavior.
First paragraph is legendary levels of moving the goalposts. We are talking about alleged insider trading as it pertains to tariffs. I agree the TikTok shit is cucked Israel first BS but that is not what we are talking about in this comment chain.
Again, based on nothing beyond simple orange man bad. The meer existence of market fluctuations at his words somehow proves insider trading to you. No basis. No proof. Just orange man bad. By this logic, I am insider trading by simply not being a retard and being able to see through his negotiating tactics.
It's not moving the goalpost. It's circumstantial evidence. That and insider trading verifiably happening (like the massive bitcoin short 30 minutes before his announcement) is the basis for why I'm accusing him of enabling insider trading.
As I've just explained, no. Not orange man bad. Accusing Trump of being Israel first is also not based on orange man bad. It's based on him bending over backwards for Israel at every conceivable opportunity.
If you short bitcoin for millions of dollars with a newly created wallet 30 minutes before Trump announces the China tariffs then yes, you're very likely guilty of insider trading.
Tariffs are only beneficial if they're in place long enough and stable enough to build up industry, otherwise the consumer is just getting indirectly taxed for things that have no domestic alternative
For certain things, absolutely. But for most products, it isn't like there are absolutely no American options, they are just being undercut by cheap foreign shit. But I definitely agree that the lion's share of benefit from tariffs are mid to long term, and I think it is unlikely much of that benefit would be realized before someone comes along and undoes them.
You're getting down voted but its true. It's a form of market manipulation which is rampant in politics.
I can also be of the mind that accurately applied tariffs are effective at protecting domestic industries.
The problem is there is zero basis for it. It's reddit-tier filling in the blanks through the lens of orange man bad despite there being a more reasonable explanation.
There may be someone somewhere who catches wind of info ahead of time and uses it to insider trade. But absent that proof (and believe me if there was any, we'd have seen it), and proof it was intentionally allowed, I am left to assume that is just how Trump negotiates, which is an easy assumption to make because it is well in-line with how he has acted for a decade now.
The argument reminds me of the NO WAR FOR OIL! protests around the Iraq War. There were many reasons to be against that war, and hidden agendas for carrying it out, but 'we wanted to steal their oil' was the most inane astroturfed libdem take that distracted from legitimate opposition. Especially when as Trump pointed out we didn't even take the oil like we should have.
Nah its called basic reasoning. Pols all engage in corruption and trump is into shit like crypto crap and selling merch and shit. His family etc are definitely profiting from his presidency.
I don't need a SOOOOURCE to know they are making money with the political theater.
Don't even need to read the post 👺🧃
He doesn't want "WOKE, SOCIALIST, and ANTI-AMERICAN Ideology" in US universities so he creates financial incentives to put even more of the woke socialists into universities.
The Gerontocracy cannot end soon enough.
It'd be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
They can look at this, as well as this and still call you a shill for pointing out he's THE Israel First president.
He's the most vocal about it, but it's sadly a standard presidential attitude. The last time a president told israel "no" was JFK when he told them not to develop nukes.
Someone needs to make an "illusion of choice" meme that puts that picture on Trump pulling out a chair for bibi right next to the picture of Biden taking a knee for bibi.
Yeah, people get really hung up on the fact that he is at least more open about it. Almost no one would do a thing less than he has regarding Israel, they'd just completely dodge the topic and not acknowledge it out loud like always.
Yeah that’s true, but let’s not pretend it’s an admirable behavior to be openly owned by j’ws. Obviously the problem is equally as bad because the results are equally bad.
Its not admirable but its better for us to see what is happening. Its also not something we have a choice on in reality. Both sides will be pro-Israel and Jew and we are a long ways from breaking out of the two party system that means we have to pick from one of the two.
But people keep treating it like its some shocking revelation that should change everything. When he himself has been pretty open about his pro-Israel/Jew stance the entire time without much obfuscation on that.
I said this back when he won the election and put Jew banker Howard lutnick as his head of transition and I was universally down voted by the hopium huffing copers that just wanted to celebrate "ourguy" winning.
Fuentes was criticizing Lutnick's role in Trump’s 2024 campaign extensively as well.
But everyone hates Nick. So, ya know.
Nick is exactly what many accuse Trump of being: a subversive that pretends to be on your side 90% of the time and rugpulls you 10% of the time when it matters. That's why people don't like him.
In this case, you found something in the 90%. When Nick endorsed Gavin Newsom, that was something in the 10%.
Has there ever been a consistent politician?
It's pretty obvious who owns orange man now.
All politicians in the last century have been consistent. Why would you even ask that? They consistently worship jews and obey everything they’re told. They consistently lie to whites and only cause us harm.
Bowser?
This is just Republicans serving the only constituents they care about. Maybe Americans will get a political party that represents them in this country too someday. I wouldn't hold my breath though, and will be voting anything but Republican until it happens.
Fuck Israel and fuck the GOP.
That's not true.
They also care about getting more brown votes.
Voting doesn’t exist. The rest of the nonwhites don’t matter to them in the slightest. They worship jews and jews alone.
Nah if a ton of people swamp an area with votes it will change representatives, at least on a local level.
Whites have a learning disability. Cuckservatives within my own family will cry tears over antisemitism, literally, but go blank when I ask about Austin Metcalf or the systemic discrimination against whites. Its really pathetic.
Hitler mentions this is mein Kampf, a people that have been demoralized so completely that they have lost the will for their very own self preservation.
If there's one group that's underrepresented, it's Jews...
Translation: “I am allowing hundreds of millions of foreign nonwhites into our universities for free, because I have already publicly said this.”
Nothing that Trump says is the truth. I dont know why people are still holding out hope that he isnt part of the crew at this point.
Who is 'the crew' exactly?
Trump is in it for himself.