There is plenty of retarded stuff Trump does to shit on him over (the stuff in the OP included), but this is just leftoid-tier criticism. Tariffs have already been raised across the board. Just because he is repeatedly using threats of even higher tariffs as a negotiating tactic, doesn't mean it's for insider trading. Anyone who believes tariffs are good should appreciate the net positve of all the trade commotion this year. And if you don't believe in tariffs and think there should be zero barrier to goods made by slaves in the third world, that's a different conversation entirely. The more understandable criticism would be he should go harder and raise them even more on certain countries, but the counterpoint to that would be that gradual bumps are less of a shock.
I made out like a bandit earlier this year because I saw through his negotiating tactics and all the media panic over tariffs and invested accordingly. I can attest to you that I am not in Trump's inner circle, but I've certainly been accused of being weirder things on this board...
Just because he is repeatedly using threats of even higher tariffs as a negotiating tactic, doesn't mean it's for insider trading.
But it may be. Who knows? Just because leftists say it, doesn't mean it's automatically false. There's so much BS surrounding Trump, it's almost impossible to figure out what's true and what's false. Leftists may be cultists and assume everything negative about him is true, but do I also have to be a cultist and assume that it's false?
Sure, but I'm responding to someone who seems oh so certain that it must be for insider trading. If there was some insider trading going on, I wouldn't be shocked. It's certainly greater than a 0% chance, perhaps even over 25%. But given the competing explanations and weak circumstantial evidence, I see no reason to think it's more than that, but that can always change. And of course, rogue insider trading wouldn't immediately imply systemic, intentional, sanctioned insider trading. Which is what that user was clearly insinuating is happening.
There is plenty of retarded stuff Trump does to shit on him over (the stuff in the OP included), but this is just leftoid-tier criticism.
In case it wasn't clear I wasn't criticizing Trump for raising tariffs. I was calling him out for being blatantly corrupt. So if that is leftoid-tier criticism I have but one question. Does that logic only apply to Trump or to congress too? Trump ran his campaigns on draining the swamp. In his first term he didn't do anything. This time around he's only switched some of the swamp people out but hasn't actually touched the swamp itself. In some ways he's actually expanding it.
The part where you're implying he's negotiating the very public and whiplashing way that he does just so people close to him can insider trade is the leftoid tier criticism because it lacks basis in anything other than orange man bad.
He forced TikTok to be sold to a Jewish billionaire because Israel was losing the PR war on that platform in spectacular fashion. He forces universities to stop DEI bullshit just to force them to implement DEI bullshit exclusively for Jews.
Yeah, I think he'll be more than willing to negotiate publicly when he doesn't have to just to manipulate the market so the very friends he's already bending over backwards for can profit from it.
But even if he isn't he's still enabling insider trading and not shutting that shit down. That is corruption. Whether you like it or not and giving him a pass for it is cuck behavior.
First paragraph is legendary levels of moving the goalposts. We are talking about alleged insider trading as it pertains to tariffs. I agree the TikTok shit is cucked Israel first BS but that is not what we are talking about in this comment chain.
But even if he isn't he's still enabling insider trading and not shutting that shit down
Again, based on nothing beyond simple orange man bad. The meer existence of market fluctuations at his words somehow proves insider trading to you. No basis. No proof. Just orange man bad. By this logic, I am insider trading by simply not being a retard and being able to see through his negotiating tactics.
Tariffs are only beneficial if they're in place long enough and stable enough to build up industry, otherwise the consumer is just getting indirectly taxed for things that have no domestic alternative
For certain things, absolutely. But for most products, it isn't like there are absolutely no American options, they are just being undercut by cheap foreign shit. But I definitely agree that the lion's share of benefit from tariffs are mid to long term, and I think it is unlikely much of that benefit would be realized before someone comes along and undoes them.
There is plenty of retarded stuff Trump does to shit on him over (the stuff in the OP included), but this is just leftoid-tier criticism. Tariffs have already been raised across the board. Just because he is repeatedly using threats of even higher tariffs as a negotiating tactic, doesn't mean it's for insider trading. Anyone who believes tariffs are good should appreciate the net positve of all the trade commotion this year. And if you don't believe in tariffs and think there should be zero barrier to goods made by slaves in the third world, that's a different conversation entirely. The more understandable criticism would be he should go harder and raise them even more on certain countries, but the counterpoint to that would be that gradual bumps are less of a shock.
I made out like a bandit earlier this year because I saw through his negotiating tactics and all the media panic over tariffs and invested accordingly. I can attest to you that I am not in Trump's inner circle, but I've certainly been accused of being weirder things on this board...
But it may be. Who knows? Just because leftists say it, doesn't mean it's automatically false. There's so much BS surrounding Trump, it's almost impossible to figure out what's true and what's false. Leftists may be cultists and assume everything negative about him is true, but do I also have to be a cultist and assume that it's false?
Sure, but I'm responding to someone who seems oh so certain that it must be for insider trading. If there was some insider trading going on, I wouldn't be shocked. It's certainly greater than a 0% chance, perhaps even over 25%. But given the competing explanations and weak circumstantial evidence, I see no reason to think it's more than that, but that can always change. And of course, rogue insider trading wouldn't immediately imply systemic, intentional, sanctioned insider trading. Which is what that user was clearly insinuating is happening.
Your views are reasonable. It's unreasonable to claim that it's definitely not happening or that it's definitely happening.
In case it wasn't clear I wasn't criticizing Trump for raising tariffs. I was calling him out for being blatantly corrupt. So if that is leftoid-tier criticism I have but one question. Does that logic only apply to Trump or to congress too? Trump ran his campaigns on draining the swamp. In his first term he didn't do anything. This time around he's only switched some of the swamp people out but hasn't actually touched the swamp itself. In some ways he's actually expanding it.
The part where you're implying he's negotiating the very public and whiplashing way that he does just so people close to him can insider trade is the leftoid tier criticism because it lacks basis in anything other than orange man bad.
He forced TikTok to be sold to a Jewish billionaire because Israel was losing the PR war on that platform in spectacular fashion. He forces universities to stop DEI bullshit just to force them to implement DEI bullshit exclusively for Jews.
Yeah, I think he'll be more than willing to negotiate publicly when he doesn't have to just to manipulate the market so the very friends he's already bending over backwards for can profit from it.
But even if he isn't he's still enabling insider trading and not shutting that shit down. That is corruption. Whether you like it or not and giving him a pass for it is cuck behavior.
First paragraph is legendary levels of moving the goalposts. We are talking about alleged insider trading as it pertains to tariffs. I agree the TikTok shit is cucked Israel first BS but that is not what we are talking about in this comment chain.
Again, based on nothing beyond simple orange man bad. The meer existence of market fluctuations at his words somehow proves insider trading to you. No basis. No proof. Just orange man bad. By this logic, I am insider trading by simply not being a retard and being able to see through his negotiating tactics.
Tariffs are only beneficial if they're in place long enough and stable enough to build up industry, otherwise the consumer is just getting indirectly taxed for things that have no domestic alternative
For certain things, absolutely. But for most products, it isn't like there are absolutely no American options, they are just being undercut by cheap foreign shit. But I definitely agree that the lion's share of benefit from tariffs are mid to long term, and I think it is unlikely much of that benefit would be realized before someone comes along and undoes them.