Literally won’t be happening even remotely close to 10%. Physical impossibility. This is just people manipulating the stock market by lying about “artificial intelligence” so they can pump and dump startup stocks for massive bubble profit.
The biggest Achilles' Heel of any robot has always been its inability to understand or adapt to changing conditions, especially if the use cases fall outside standard operating conditions or result in the harm of itself or nearby humans. A Roomba doesn't know it's trying to clean up dog feces and will keep trying until it jams up its entire system and overheats, spreading mashed-up dogshit everywhere. A sprinkler system will continue to try and put out a house surrounded by a wildfire until it has emptied itself of water not knowing the futility of the situation. A commercial airliner will not realize you've manually depressurized the cabin at altitude and will keep flying as the entire flight slowly dies from hypoxia.
Now imagine an entire factory filled with robots like these. They will work beautifully up until the moment something SLIGHTLY unexpected happens with one, then the entire chain fails.
Hell, just look at what happened to Waymo's robotaxis during the recent La Raza insurrection. Without the company manually shutting the cars down, the rioters would have happily depleted Waymo's entire fleet. Because as thoughtfully as the AI might have been designed, its programmers didn't factor anything in regards to situations where groups of outsiders intend on destroying them. They simply locked up and called law enforcement, allowing themselves to be smashed up and burned to nothing. Other taxis were unable to realize they were being called to the same location as one that had ceased communications and followed each other like lemmings.
What this means is that a robotaxi would happily drive you towards an active warzone where the roads might not even exist anymore and an firefight is ongoing, because it cannot use a human level of judgment to know that it probably shouldn't be there.
And that is something a robot will never best a human in.
I work in a warehouse loading trucks. Any package that is hazardous material, oddly shaped, oversized, or over 70 lbs is not allowed on the conveyor belt system and is required to be put on a cart. These carts, which handle like a shopping cart that weighs 500 lbs, are carried by automated trolleys that look like this.
Normally these work fine. However, occasionally the "gps" navigation or the radar collision system malfunction and the unit ends up not moving because it doesn't know where it is, or it thinks that the support column that has been there for 10 years is a person and it triggers the emergency stop.
When this happens, we have to get onto it and manually drive it to the next checkpoint, or if the malfunction is really bad, get the maintenance guys to tow it away. Regardless, these automated trains keep coming, and when one breaks down it causes a backup, and if it breaks down in the wrong place it ends up causing gridlock for both the trains and the package trucks.
Computers are not smart. They are fast at doing things, but they are not intelligent. It never ceases to make me roll my eyes at normies who think that "A.I." is actually intelligent when it is essentially a talking box blindly throwing salami at the wall hoping it hits the right target.
Our AGV robots in the warehouse already fuck up multiple times per shift, in a building with pre planned routes and guidance markers. There is no way that shit is replacing a human being in a semi truck who can react to changing conditions on the fly.
I wonder if we could ever see crime heat maps like we have traffic heat maps, alerting users to take alternate routes and avoid those areas. We're already close to or surpassed "90s action flick" level crime areas and instead of getting Demolition Man/Robocop level police, they're just nonchalantly fudging the crime stats and redefining what should be considered crime.
I think a far more realistic scenario is that Amazon will split off and have an entirely robotic division that will only handle packages that can be delivered by robots. Any package you send that isn't precisely cubed or whatever they want will have to go to a human based package company that will be far more expensive.
So naturally all products will look the same to take advantage of cheap shipping, and design/overall beauty will get even worse.
Accountability? What has he done that is illegal? It’s not illegal to lie about investments or predictive investments to trick people into buying stocks so you can pump and dump them later, before the bubble collapses. Governments wouldn’t cut off one of their best income streams, after all.
The bureaucratic purpose of all new technology is to obfuscate their own failures, and defer blame & responsibility.
"Look at the magic box. I'm not an idiot, the magic box did something magically inexplicable that is too difficult for mere mortals to comprehend. I definitely didn't accidentally order it to drown all the puppies at Pet Supplies Plus."
That's why the West only has a few years got get rid of the vast majority of 3rd world migrants or countries will fall.
They're only capable of doing the lowest tier jobs. These jobs are going away. Welfare systems cannot handle the resulting mass of unemployable eaters. Without gibs the migrants will revolt.
I mean obviously there's a lot from their end that's driving them to spread all over the place (fake diploma mills, overpopulation, visa/immigration scams, goals from major players in India).
The only enticement I could see for any businesses would be that the jeets are more likely to take lower wages, especially at entry level positions.
They looked at every dystopian fiction and said, "Yeah, let's do that."
They're not unique in that sense, among elites, but it's still impressive. They're in esteemed company, with Google, Bill Gates, Soros, Peter Theil and his bunch, Adelson and the rest of the AIPACers, Blackrock/Vanguard/WEF. And, while Musk isn't evil like the others probably are, he deserves a mention for his transhumanist nonsense.
But, in the purely corporate field, I think Amazon is well in the lead. They're a massive employer, and are so interconnected with everyone, in a much more physical way than Google. And Amazon even has all the servers and shit, so they've got a big influence in the digital sphere as well.
But, hey, when you get right down to it, all the big corps are CIA/"Intelligence Community" anyway, so it's all six of one, half dozen of the other, I suppose.
It won't be 100%, unless they are MASSIVE idiots. Maybe 60-70%
Robots NEED human oversight as a lot of them work on a routine. If there is a glitch, a bug or any kind of interruption to that, 9/10 they freak the fuck out requiring a human step in to turn them off, remove the obstruction and then reset them.
You have no human oversight, a warehouse might burn down by the time someone comes to fix the issue.
It's not even because robotics isn't advanced enough.
It's because most of the AI being sold is just server space to actual AI's, which are really just LLM's reading garbage off of Reddit and WebMD. The LLM's lie to the users, making them worthless, while giving poor advice due to shit sourcing, followed by being exceedingly difficult to actually work with and teach to answer your questions. The rest of the AI's are literally just fraudulent investment schemes and 700 Indians in a call center.
Don't worry, I'm sure Reddit autists and 700 Indians will fly a Boeing 747 without a pilot just fine.
This is the type of stuff that gives me doubts about Vance. His political patrons are technocrats. What kind of a dude converts to Catholicism based on the influence of a homosexual like Peter Thiel, who also happens to be a technocrat sociopath pushing this version of the future? What is the understanding between them?
edit: the timeline is abject nonsense. Still, this is what Silicon Valley would like to happen.
My town recently built a small amazon factory, and watching their business plans unfold first hand is so comical that I believe this might be their hope to bail them out of the idiocy that is their entire model.
The city itself is currently attacking them because their drivers are so lazy that they've stuffed so many packages in mailboxes (which USPS confiscates instead of just taking out) that the Post Office is overflowing with them with no sign of slowing. And apparently they hired minimal background check retards to get "up and running" and are currently trying to fire all of them to replace with "real employees" but refuse to give them vehicles, demanding they bring their own.
Its a cavalcade of nonsense that defies all sense and only seems to not explode because Amazon is "too big to fail."
Amazon desperately wants to be a rent-seeking tech company like Uber or Netflix, but the retail side making up 60% of its revenue is too much to ignore.
Probably they will try. And it will very likely suck and be a massive headache as seemingly impossible outcomes will be the norm.
I order one copy of "Conscience of A Conservative" by Barry Goldwater,
I receive 30,000 Number 3 Pencils delivered to the Kinkos down the street, addressed to the name: Joseph N. Fartfag (The N stands for Nigger)
And how did this happen? Simple. I placed the order on Tuesday at 6:42 PM, and it was 53 degrees Fahrenheit out. Due to impossibly complex code and unknowable associations in the AI, it decided to change my purchase, address, and name. There will be absolutely no known way to correct for this, so let's just hope that it never happens again, or that such a set of circumstances are also not pre-built into the code to do something else equally stupid.
Replacing the warehouse "pickers" will probably happen. If you don't know they already have robots that bring over a whole shelf of random stuff, but grabbing the item and putting it in a box is still done by humans. The warehouse is a controlled environment in a fixed location, so existing robot arms would work - it's just a matter of getting the computer vision dialed in, and there have been huge advances in that field.
Delivery drivers? In 5 years? Autonomous vehicles are still twitchy in known locations and I don't see them getting to the global 'fire and forget' stage that quickly. And a delivery bot that can grab package and walk down paths, open gates, go up stairs, lift 40lbs, avoid pets, deal with uneven and slippery terrain - it's just not happening any time soon. We have functional prototypes of humanoid robots but they operate in controlled test environments with supervision - you can't just put them out on the street. You might use a big extendo arm mounted to the truck but then you have to worry about it getting caught on stuff.
Literally won’t be happening even remotely close to 10%. Physical impossibility. This is just people manipulating the stock market by lying about “artificial intelligence” so they can pump and dump startup stocks for massive bubble profit.
Every single fucking time. It’s the same script.
Precisely this.
The biggest Achilles' Heel of any robot has always been its inability to understand or adapt to changing conditions, especially if the use cases fall outside standard operating conditions or result in the harm of itself or nearby humans. A Roomba doesn't know it's trying to clean up dog feces and will keep trying until it jams up its entire system and overheats, spreading mashed-up dogshit everywhere. A sprinkler system will continue to try and put out a house surrounded by a wildfire until it has emptied itself of water not knowing the futility of the situation. A commercial airliner will not realize you've manually depressurized the cabin at altitude and will keep flying as the entire flight slowly dies from hypoxia.
Now imagine an entire factory filled with robots like these. They will work beautifully up until the moment something SLIGHTLY unexpected happens with one, then the entire chain fails.
Hell, just look at what happened to Waymo's robotaxis during the recent La Raza insurrection. Without the company manually shutting the cars down, the rioters would have happily depleted Waymo's entire fleet. Because as thoughtfully as the AI might have been designed, its programmers didn't factor anything in regards to situations where groups of outsiders intend on destroying them. They simply locked up and called law enforcement, allowing themselves to be smashed up and burned to nothing. Other taxis were unable to realize they were being called to the same location as one that had ceased communications and followed each other like lemmings.
What this means is that a robotaxi would happily drive you towards an active warzone where the roads might not even exist anymore and an firefight is ongoing, because it cannot use a human level of judgment to know that it probably shouldn't be there.
And that is something a robot will never best a human in.
I work in a warehouse loading trucks. Any package that is hazardous material, oddly shaped, oversized, or over 70 lbs is not allowed on the conveyor belt system and is required to be put on a cart. These carts, which handle like a shopping cart that weighs 500 lbs, are carried by automated trolleys that look like this.
Normally these work fine. However, occasionally the "gps" navigation or the radar collision system malfunction and the unit ends up not moving because it doesn't know where it is, or it thinks that the support column that has been there for 10 years is a person and it triggers the emergency stop.
When this happens, we have to get onto it and manually drive it to the next checkpoint, or if the malfunction is really bad, get the maintenance guys to tow it away. Regardless, these automated trains keep coming, and when one breaks down it causes a backup, and if it breaks down in the wrong place it ends up causing gridlock for both the trains and the package trucks.
Computers are not smart. They are fast at doing things, but they are not intelligent. It never ceases to make me roll my eyes at normies who think that "A.I." is actually intelligent when it is essentially a talking box blindly throwing salami at the wall hoping it hits the right target.
Our AGV robots in the warehouse already fuck up multiple times per shift, in a building with pre planned routes and guidance markers. There is no way that shit is replacing a human being in a semi truck who can react to changing conditions on the fly.
I wonder if we could ever see crime heat maps like we have traffic heat maps, alerting users to take alternate routes and avoid those areas. We're already close to or surpassed "90s action flick" level crime areas and instead of getting Demolition Man/Robocop level police, they're just nonchalantly fudging the crime stats and redefining what should be considered crime.
I think a far more realistic scenario is that Amazon will split off and have an entirely robotic division that will only handle packages that can be delivered by robots. Any package you send that isn't precisely cubed or whatever they want will have to go to a human based package company that will be far more expensive.
So naturally all products will look the same to take advantage of cheap shipping, and design/overall beauty will get even worse.
lol
Will their be any accountability for this weirdo when this turns out to be false?
Accountability? What has he done that is illegal? It’s not illegal to lie about investments or predictive investments to trick people into buying stocks so you can pump and dump them later, before the bubble collapses. Governments wouldn’t cut off one of their best income streams, after all.
It will be illegal after we win.
No.
The bureaucratic purpose of all new technology is to obfuscate their own failures, and defer blame & responsibility.
"Look at the magic box. I'm not an idiot, the magic box did something magically inexplicable that is too difficult for mere mortals to comprehend. I definitely didn't accidentally order it to drown all the puppies at Pet Supplies Plus."
That's why the West only has a few years got get rid of the vast majority of 3rd world migrants or countries will fall.
They're only capable of doing the lowest tier jobs. These jobs are going away. Welfare systems cannot handle the resulting mass of unemployable eaters. Without gibs the migrants will revolt.
Ironically, this is the exact kind of work that pajeets are usually physically incapable of doing at all.
Maybe not so ironic is if the idea is to give pajeets white collar jobs and convert everyone else over to blue collar labor.
Why exactly are we demanding infinite foreigners who will sleep on the job and shit on the floor, when we could just pay teenagers not to be idle.
I'm honestly not sure.
I mean obviously there's a lot from their end that's driving them to spread all over the place (fake diploma mills, overpopulation, visa/immigration scams, goals from major players in India).
The only enticement I could see for any businesses would be that the jeets are more likely to take lower wages, especially at entry level positions.
In my warehouse I've only seen like 2 jeets ever load trucks. The couple others I've ever seen have been truck drivers.
Most of the loaders are black, hispanic, white, or even middle eastern.
There's that number again.
You do sort of have to admire Amazon.
They looked at every dystopian fiction and said, "Yeah, let's do that."
They're not unique in that sense, among elites, but it's still impressive. They're in esteemed company, with Google, Bill Gates, Soros, Peter Theil and his bunch, Adelson and the rest of the AIPACers, Blackrock/Vanguard/WEF. And, while Musk isn't evil like the others probably are, he deserves a mention for his transhumanist nonsense.
But, in the purely corporate field, I think Amazon is well in the lead. They're a massive employer, and are so interconnected with everyone, in a much more physical way than Google. And Amazon even has all the servers and shit, so they've got a big influence in the digital sphere as well.
But, hey, when you get right down to it, all the big corps are CIA/"Intelligence Community" anyway, so it's all six of one, half dozen of the other, I suppose.
Reminder that the Wage Cage 9000™ was a real patent filed by Amazon.
The guy who hijacked MAGA to keep the jeet importation scam running isn't evil?
It wasn't a hijacking. They were going to do that anyways.
It won't be 100%, unless they are MASSIVE idiots. Maybe 60-70%
Robots NEED human oversight as a lot of them work on a routine. If there is a glitch, a bug or any kind of interruption to that, 9/10 they freak the fuck out requiring a human step in to turn them off, remove the obstruction and then reset them.
You have no human oversight, a warehouse might burn down by the time someone comes to fix the issue.
You worthless luddite! No computer needs human oversight!
The computer is a magic box that I put my wishes into and then nothing goes wrong ever. Like a genie.
Also, we must import 100 billion bahamalians because they are familiar with the ways of the gins that make the computers go.
God, I can fucking taste the GDP.
No, but for real, talking to anyone who innately trust computers and AI is like being trapped like Memory Rick in Jerry's mind, from Rick and Morty
But...think of the Progress™! 100% or bust, for style points.
The AI bubble popping (because robotics isn’t advanced enough to support the technocrats’ ideal world) is going to have some major results.
It's not even because robotics isn't advanced enough.
It's because most of the AI being sold is just server space to actual AI's, which are really just LLM's reading garbage off of Reddit and WebMD. The LLM's lie to the users, making them worthless, while giving poor advice due to shit sourcing, followed by being exceedingly difficult to actually work with and teach to answer your questions. The rest of the AI's are literally just fraudulent investment schemes and 700 Indians in a call center.
Don't worry, I'm sure Reddit autists and 700 Indians will fly a Boeing 747 without a pilot just fine.
If you can time the short, you'll be rich. Problem is these bubbles can go for years.
Especially when the government is investing in it because they want to recreate Terminators Hunter-Killer drones.
Oh yes, lots of gamblers and analysts are going to be filthy rich.
This is the type of stuff that gives me doubts about Vance. His political patrons are technocrats. What kind of a dude converts to Catholicism based on the influence of a homosexual like Peter Thiel, who also happens to be a technocrat sociopath pushing this version of the future? What is the understanding between them?
edit: the timeline is abject nonsense. Still, this is what Silicon Valley would like to happen.
It won't happen, but it's very revealing what they want to happen.
My town recently built a small amazon factory, and watching their business plans unfold first hand is so comical that I believe this might be their hope to bail them out of the idiocy that is their entire model.
The city itself is currently attacking them because their drivers are so lazy that they've stuffed so many packages in mailboxes (which USPS confiscates instead of just taking out) that the Post Office is overflowing with them with no sign of slowing. And apparently they hired minimal background check retards to get "up and running" and are currently trying to fire all of them to replace with "real employees" but refuse to give them vehicles, demanding they bring their own.
Its a cavalcade of nonsense that defies all sense and only seems to not explode because Amazon is "too big to fail."
Amazon desperately wants to be a rent-seeking tech company like Uber or Netflix, but the retail side making up 60% of its revenue is too much to ignore.
Just like those self-checkout stores? Yea… that’ll work out fine. Replace everyone with robots driven by Indians.
So I'll have to retrieve my sopping wet package from the tree the drone dropped it in?
If its actually a tree on your property it might be an upgrade from a lot of the human drivers they currently employ.
Trees are just pretty looking bollard barriers for trucks of peace & trucks of delivery.
Not if it crashes through your house and bursts into flames first!
It's free target practice.
AI = indians. actually indians lol. people say half the warehouse is just indians and africans and many barely understand english.
it seems like a recipe for disaster.. AI taking over most low level jobs and then we have like +100 million illegals that suddenly are out of a job.
also.. if AI is gonna take over soon, why the hell do we need to import all these third worlders anyways. we can use AI to pick our avacados
your mechanical pajeets are not even equivalent to the flesh ones
"Mechanical pajeets" is the best way to describe AI.
Probably they will try. And it will very likely suck and be a massive headache as seemingly impossible outcomes will be the norm.
I order one copy of "Conscience of A Conservative" by Barry Goldwater,
I receive 30,000 Number 3 Pencils delivered to the Kinkos down the street, addressed to the name: Joseph N. Fartfag (The N stands for Nigger)
And how did this happen? Simple. I placed the order on Tuesday at 6:42 PM, and it was 53 degrees Fahrenheit out. Due to impossibly complex code and unknowable associations in the AI, it decided to change my purchase, address, and name. There will be absolutely no known way to correct for this, so let's just hope that it never happens again, or that such a set of circumstances are also not pre-built into the code to do something else equally stupid.
Hard to imagine a robot being less competent than a FedEx driver.
Tell me you don't know what software gore is without telling me you know what software gore is.
Your FedEx driver never tried to divide by zero and implode himself into an immovable sphere.
Yeah but my Amazon driver did and that's why I never got my fuckin socks
Is... is his sphere still there?
Replacing the warehouse "pickers" will probably happen. If you don't know they already have robots that bring over a whole shelf of random stuff, but grabbing the item and putting it in a box is still done by humans. The warehouse is a controlled environment in a fixed location, so existing robot arms would work - it's just a matter of getting the computer vision dialed in, and there have been huge advances in that field.
Delivery drivers? In 5 years? Autonomous vehicles are still twitchy in known locations and I don't see them getting to the global 'fire and forget' stage that quickly. And a delivery bot that can grab package and walk down paths, open gates, go up stairs, lift 40lbs, avoid pets, deal with uneven and slippery terrain - it's just not happening any time soon. We have functional prototypes of humanoid robots but they operate in controlled test environments with supervision - you can't just put them out on the street. You might use a big extendo arm mounted to the truck but then you have to worry about it getting caught on stuff.
Learn how to code
Don't bother. All those jobs are being handed to jeets.
Learn to throw sheet.