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AI Startup ‘BuilderAI’ has collapsed after it was found to be powered by 700 engineers in India, not AI (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by evilplushie 1 year ago by evilplushie +92 / -0
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– MickeySax 47 points 1 year ago +47 / -0

AI—Actually Indian.

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– Lurker404 34 points 1 year ago +34 / -0

That's the second "AI" company that turned out to be just Pajeets now, isn't it?

Not too long ago there was another company that used "AI" to create a unified shopping cart/checkout app that worked on all stores without having to create accounts. Except instead of the advertised AI they were outsourcing the process to Indian Phillipino call centers.

Edit: Turns out that one used Philipinos instead of Indians: https://archive.is/ajUZW

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– ParadigmShift2070 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

Wasn't there a physical store that was supposed to use Ai image scan check out as things are put into the basket without the kiosks, but turned out just pajeets looking at the the monitors and entering the sales

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– KeeperOfTheGate 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Yeah--AMAZON!

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Was in the thread for that just now getting an old post I made at the time so may as well link the whole thing here.

https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17siSljUFE/x/c/

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– undecidedmask2 30 points 1 year ago +30 / -0

Ah, so that’s why AI code sucks!

In all seriousness, I’m surprised this wasn’t found out earlier, you’d think AI would generate code faster than even 700 people.

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– Agenda47 39 points 1 year ago +39 / -0

(clicks Generate Code button)

Builder.AI: "Generating..."

(after waiting 30 seconds) (click)

Builder.AI: "Thinking..."

(click click click)

Builder.AI: "please saar! kindly wait for the ai to do the needful, do not click the botton saar"

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– exarch 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Void main() {cout <<< “shitting in street”; }

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– Mpetey123 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

Why do you keep telling me to shit in the street BuilderAI? And I already told you I don't have any bobs or vagene to show you.

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– Gizortnik 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

This is the second time this is happened.

The fact that people can't tell the difference, tells me that, yes, there is an AI bubble.

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– ghostfox1_ 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

There always was. "Ai" as a buzzword is worthless. It's all machine learning, which has been going on for decades. They're just pretending like it's something new and exciting to rip off retard execs

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– Eltrion 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Basically like when they started to call file hosting servers "The Cloud"

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– Gizortnik 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

We don't always agree, but your dead right on this one.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

"AI" has been a thing forever, every video game ever had "enemy AI". Oh no, AI!

Large Language Models are neat, and Large Image Model inserts to them are fun toys, but those are much more exact terms. And they can be run offline, notably, and are fairly restricted in their scope.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Heh, wait until they figure out what's behind Quantum Computing.

AI, cloud, "serverless", virtual assistants, blockchain. All kind of interesting in their own right, sure, but they get pumped up into these viral ideas where the legend and promise quickly overshadow their actual usefulness. Two decades of technological fraud driven by some fantasy that the real Silicon Valley is the same as this idealized fictional Silicon Valley.

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– subbookkeeper 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Also there's no real way to monetize it. I can't "buy" an AI for my local PC which is what I really want.

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– raptor_jesus 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Nah. If you can have the "quality" of mass importing pajeets without the zmell then damn is that a ringing endorsement of AI considering modern hiring practices.

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– alucard13mmfmj 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

AI hasnt done shit to help society or humanity. All its done is to show off pretty pics/videos and generate shitty porn.

Atm its just being used to control and aggregate all the data they collect from us. And to replace some people in the workforce.

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– Eltrion 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Look, this is just wrong. Generative AI is fairly new, but classification AI, that goes the other way, for example Optical Character Recognition, has been around for decades and is a cornerstone of modern automation.

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– voidposter 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

How is OCR similar to LLMs?

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– Eltrion 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

OCR is a very simple use of a more primitive version of the same technology. You create a training set, a set of expected results, then use a training algorithm on the layers of linear algebra and matrixes to adjust them until you have a program that can accurately classify input data and produce the expected output, even with examples it has never seen before, generalizing it's functionality beyond just it's training set.

Of course it's a hell of a lot easier to match small greyscale images to a set of less than 200 glyphs than it is to match it to as vague a concept as coherent English text, and of course there are a lot of tasks with intermediary complexity like subject identification and catching and classifying defects in parts without exact measurements.

The big thing that kicked off this latest boom was production of general outputs.

Now we're able to go from general to general (a description of a picture to a picture that fits the description) instead of general to specific (picture of animal to Is Cat?Y/N with confidence interval X.)

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– BollocksToBolsheviks 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

700 engineers

These are the people who come to the states and claim to be engineers. These are the people getting H1-B visas and running the tech companies on the backs of the two white guys that HR wants replaced. There's a reason why "tech" companies look like the banks of the Ganges while engineering departments at companies who produce actual products do not (for now).

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– YouAreAPirate 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

> AI

> Looks inside

> Outsourcing

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– WhitePhoenix 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

No SAAR, do NOT REDEEM!

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Bringing this one back,

https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17siSljUFE/x/c/4ZA1y3PzQvw

Something, something, 1000 monkeys on typewriters can produce the works of Shakespeare.

1000 pajeets on remote call working producing work checks 700 engineers in India

Eh, close enough.

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The GPUs alone cost a fortune

$9,000 per card was what I heard quoted in the office several months back and we had less than a dozen for a really small scale in-house operation. I can only imagine how much hardware something at scale requires.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– Eltrion 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Depends on how tolerant of half assing things you are. I grabbed a P40 which is enough for a hobbyist for 300$. It does a passible job if slightly slow. But it's plenty capable for a single user. Of course if you want to do anything cutting edge, you'll be spending tens of thousands. However a significant part of that is Nvidia being stingy with VRAM. It wouldn't be particularly difficult to make high VRAM cards that would be far more cost effective for AI, but it's more profitable for Nvidia to do it this way.

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