This is indicative of a broken society on so many levels. Between the guy being an absolute doughboy to everyone(read: women) having "access" to millions of potential mates...it's all completely fucked up. We're engineering everything against the creation of stable families.
Much of society exists to solve problems, and stable families don't tend to cause problems. It's absolutely wild to me how much of modern society is entirely irrelevant to me because my life goal is to raise a family.
Man, as disturbing as this is, the victimhood mentality also isn't great. This Bizlet guy is saying it's impossible to get in shape without drugs. Don't know how he reaches that conclusion, but you do you bro. Just give up, I guess.
Everyone is just like ‘lose weight and get jacked.’ I’m not sure most people are even biologically capable of this in the modern environment without drugs.
It’s like telling a poor person that has racked up five figure debt ‘Just make more money.
Why can't he focus on the real issue outlined here, and not spiral off into Victimland?
Even if this dude was ugly ugly, he got 2k women to at least show some interest in him, but only one wanted to meet. And almost everyone wouldn't even give him the time of day. That outlines the current absurd dating market. We don't have to go off to 'it's impossible to become more attractive' nonsense when, in a sane system, even someone unattractive should be able to do better than this.
I don't know how this Bizlet guy identifies, but it's got very 'incel' energy. And, I've said it before, but my issue with incels isn't that they can't/don't have sex, it's that they're defeated and make excuses. That's sad.
It's not even close to impossible to lose weight, or get in some level of shape. There are certainly some physiques that are outside of practical reach for most people, but improving yourself, even physically, is nowhere near impossible. And you don't need drugs. Dude's a clown.
Should point out, since not everyone can see X replies and it's not obvious from the quote, that Bizlet is not the guy being discussed. He just shared the story.
And, I've said it before, but my issue with incels isn't that they can't/don't have sex, it's that they're defeated and make excuses. That's sad.
They're a self destructive bunch, which is my main issue with them. They encourage each other to off themselves as if that isn't exactly what the danger hairs want. They're basically correct about the actual problem though, and it's probably not solvable without somehow reversing the sexual revolution.
And the thing is, increasing numbers of men face the same problem.
Which may be the solution. Enough angry young men can tear down any system, even feminism and the sexual revolution. And that's why shills constantly post demoralization propaganda and encourage them to anesthize themselves with porn, weed, and materialism.
Also the obvious problem that our food and water supply has been poisoning us for almost a century with the support of propaganda propagated by the government and mainstream media.
Everything You're Eating Is Toxic, and Big Pharma Likes It That Way
Didn't even know that part, but wouldn't surprise me if it does happen. They're really big on the whole crab in the bucket mentality, and group think.
They hate anyone who isn't an incel, in the same way some other groups - actual hardcore antisemites spring to mind - who hate you if you don't hate their chosen group enough. If you don't hate women and think everything is pointless, you're the problem. If you don't hate the Jews, and think they're responsible for everything, you're obviously a cuck. And so on.
Incels have picked their obsession, and anyone who can't meet the purity criteria is the enemy.
While I agree with your point on it and purity spirals, I don't think they picked it. Sexual achievement is a literal baseline instinct and evolutionary need, our body and hormones literally force us towards it against our will. If they cannot achieve some amount, they can't not think about it.
The closest stopgap is infinite masturbation, but then we open back to the discussion on how porn itself rots the brain in a different manner. And in this case still wouldn't fully help their problem.
Their choice to adopt a certain hatefully, defeatist mindset is certainly chosen, but "being an incel and thinking about women a lot" is a burden thrust upon them by evolutionary pressures. Whereas something like Jews is completely optional.
A lot of them are actually decent looking guys, it's just their mopey, self-defeating attitude that's utter pussy repellent. Girls have been saying Elliot Roger was good looking.
Girls have been saying Elliot Roger was good looking.
Yeah, because they want a greek hoplight to kick their trojan door in. Here is the great question: Is men's enemy women's primal id, or man's civilization building ego?
MGTOWs decided it was the id, and refuse to play women's game. They have (will have) removed themselves from the future.
Incels decided it was the ego, and are waiting for a critical mass and leader to emerge so they can resume history and play the game by biology's (ie, women's) rules.
Not even true, and yeah, ER looks good in pictures alone but if you saw him in perosn or with other people you'd notice just how small he was which is absolute pussy repellent.
Apparently eating 20% less of whatever he currently eats is impossible without doing drugs. We're supposed to have something above other animals : restrains over our own instincts.
''Don't make yourself fat'' is basically a cheat code in North America at this point.
This Bizlet guy is saying it's impossible to get in shape without drugs. Don't know how he reaches that conclusion, but you do you bro. Just give up, I guess.
Because most health advice is garbage, and will leave you worse off. Simply trying under these circumstances will actually harm you. The simpler the better, the answer is Cod Liver Oil.
People use to date within their attractiveness level before but now with dating apps women's hypergamy is on overdrive. Society had spent decades if not centuries trying to reshape men's natural dating proclivities but never women.
Filters, makeup and simps have convinced every average woman she is an 8+.
8+? Everyone woman is a straight 10, and a 9 if she's feeling humble. All her friends are 9s, or 8s when she's saying she's a 9.
Sargon's coverage of the Hot Girls March, or whatever, was pretty fucking funny. They weren't exactly ugly, but none of the girls, at least in the pictures shown, were "hot." They all thought they were 9s and 10s.
This - femcels have launched an attack on "passport bros" in the past couple years, and it'll inevitably spread to the slanteyes given enough time and persistence.
Ultimately, just another societal plague caused by the 19th.
passport bros are shitty race mixers though. And femcels don't need to spread anything , im pretty sure asians wouldnt like their women being stolen regardless.
Even so, they would still sperg out if they were going to places like the Czech Republic or Hungary for their wives. They hate men making their own choices that they can't foster some degree of control over.
There's a chad/soyjak comic begging to be made, where a smug female soyjak says something to the effect of "Ha - we control the divorce courts and have a right to be the breadwinners of the household, you have to marry one of us if you want children!"
And in the second panel the Chad turns to face a now tearful soyjak, with his tradwife and children, and the 'jak crying "No - not like that!"
All the MGTOW movement was ever about was men voluntarily splitting away from the gynocentric society that now exists in American and most other Western nations, hence "going their own way". Angry femcels and jews turned it into "men becoming involuntarily celibate" and tuning out of the dating pool altogether. The subversion happened around 1948 when this photo was taken. The smug bitch wife knowing she's going to get a ton of shit she never earned off her own back. The fat jewish lawyer shamefully laughing at the husband's plight. This is what we as 21st Century men want to avoid and want no part of. Because once a jewish divorce lawyer hops into the ear of a faithless skank, the pair combined can create one of the most vindictive, evil creatures on the face of this Earth; the female divorcee.
Japan, once known for its strict gender roles and appreciation of feminine beauty, has become a feminist shithole on par with Worst Korea. A complete 180 from what it was thirty, even twenty years ago.
Literally no one sans Spain is even close to Worst Korea in terms of feminist problems. Like, they are getting bad and a very much real problem, but that's like comparing an amputated leg to being fucking blown apart.
Worst Korea managed to get a female puppet president controlled by an all female shadow cabal. They have open feminist terrorist orgs operating in the open.
They are way worse and that's important because its the example to show of what happens if we don't strangle these babies in the crib.
Not as bad yet but almost. They currently have a sort of #metoo going on, taking out famous men who enjoyed having sex with women a little too much. I predict one generation left after women take over the powerful roles in media. But yeah like TheOpiner opined, travel and technology giving women all the chads in the universe at their fingertips has made female hypergamy explode everywhere you go. There's no escape.
Geomaxxing is definitely the way to go if having a family is nonnegotiable for you. I would have tried it had it been viable for me before I concluded that women are only good for sex.
Its Tinder. More than half of all women's profiles on it are bots or "content creators." So I'd wager the majority of those he matched with were in fact bots or shill accounts. The ones who either message you a snapchat/instagram account name and then immediately delete, or "talk" to you trying to push you towards subbing to their Onlyfans in a manner that makes it clear its an AI program.
So while his "match" metric is low, his "real physical person" number is probably a lot lower. Which would make the "got a date" metric relatively considerably higher.
The problem is likely expectations. Tinder is a sex app, any girl on it knows that, and all things they say to the contrary is meant to be anti-slut defenses that you are supposed to push through one way or another. Mr. Doughboy based on appearance alone is not someone I expect to be hitting the hard flirts within the first conversation, but its the only way to hook in girls with 90 other messages waiting. While he is trying to find a literal date with expectations of something beyond sex, meaning a lot of boring foundational conversations.
I have managed to use it in the past to decent success, so it is certainly possible. But that's why I know what women are using it for, what not to do, and why a guy looking like him is almost certainly doing all those things.
Part of the social contract is that ordinary looking guys get a reasonable chance at having ordinary looking wives and having families. Things start turning out badly when ordinary guys can bat 0 for 2 million.
I'd think the matches are swipe backs. So two thousand showed some interest, 1,200 went on to chat to some extent, but only one actually resulted in a date.
That doesn't sound right. The percentage of right swipes that turn into dates is in the single digits for non-chads. There's no way a guy could only get 1 right swipe out of 2 million and have that swipe turn into a date. It's likely the number of right swipes he got over those 5 years was in the triple digits and only one of those turned into a date.
Edit: Okay, I looked at the picture. That's a lot more in line with what I was expecting. He swiped right about 2 million times, and about 2000 of those swiped right back (a 0.1% match rate). He talked to about 1200 of those and only 1 resulted in a date (a little less than 0.1%), which went nowhere. So yeah, less than 0.1% of 0.1% of his swipes resulted in dates.
I posted my edit seconds before you responded lol. I didn't read the infographic until after my first response since I usually don't look too closely at Twitter pics posted here (considering how many troons are in those pics that's probably a good thing).
This is indicative of a broken society on so many levels. Between the guy being an absolute doughboy to everyone(read: women) having "access" to millions of potential mates...it's all completely fucked up. We're engineering everything against the creation of stable families.
Much of society exists to solve problems, and stable families don't tend to cause problems. It's absolutely wild to me how much of modern society is entirely irrelevant to me because my life goal is to raise a family.
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Man, as disturbing as this is, the victimhood mentality also isn't great. This Bizlet guy is saying it's impossible to get in shape without drugs. Don't know how he reaches that conclusion, but you do you bro. Just give up, I guess.
Why can't he focus on the real issue outlined here, and not spiral off into Victimland?
Even if this dude was ugly ugly, he got 2k women to at least show some interest in him, but only one wanted to meet. And almost everyone wouldn't even give him the time of day. That outlines the current absurd dating market. We don't have to go off to 'it's impossible to become more attractive' nonsense when, in a sane system, even someone unattractive should be able to do better than this.
I don't know how this Bizlet guy identifies, but it's got very 'incel' energy. And, I've said it before, but my issue with incels isn't that they can't/don't have sex, it's that they're defeated and make excuses. That's sad.
It's not even close to impossible to lose weight, or get in some level of shape. There are certainly some physiques that are outside of practical reach for most people, but improving yourself, even physically, is nowhere near impossible. And you don't need drugs. Dude's a clown.
Should point out, since not everyone can see X replies and it's not obvious from the quote, that Bizlet is not the guy being discussed. He just shared the story.
Bizlet is the guy saying you can't get in shape without drugs, though.
Nitter.
Yeah, that's a very stupid comment.
A decent guy with a stable job (I'm assuming) should be able to find a comparably attractive woman and get married and have kids.
til putting the fork down is a drug.
They're a self destructive bunch, which is my main issue with them. They encourage each other to off themselves as if that isn't exactly what the danger hairs want. They're basically correct about the actual problem though, and it's probably not solvable without somehow reversing the sexual revolution.
Which may be the solution. Enough angry young men can tear down any system, even feminism and the sexual revolution. And that's why shills constantly post demoralization propaganda and encourage them to anesthize themselves with porn, weed, and materialism.
Also the obvious problem that our food and water supply has been poisoning us for almost a century with the support of propaganda propagated by the government and mainstream media.
Everything You're Eating Is Toxic, and Big Pharma Likes It That Way
https://rumble.com/v5tp50b-dr.-mark-hyman-everything-youre-eating-is-toxic-and-big-pharma-likes-it-tha.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Didn't even know that part, but wouldn't surprise me if it does happen. They're really big on the whole crab in the bucket mentality, and group think.
They hate anyone who isn't an incel, in the same way some other groups - actual hardcore antisemites spring to mind - who hate you if you don't hate their chosen group enough. If you don't hate women and think everything is pointless, you're the problem. If you don't hate the Jews, and think they're responsible for everything, you're obviously a cuck. And so on.
Incels have picked their obsession, and anyone who can't meet the purity criteria is the enemy.
While I agree with your point on it and purity spirals, I don't think they picked it. Sexual achievement is a literal baseline instinct and evolutionary need, our body and hormones literally force us towards it against our will. If they cannot achieve some amount, they can't not think about it.
The closest stopgap is infinite masturbation, but then we open back to the discussion on how porn itself rots the brain in a different manner. And in this case still wouldn't fully help their problem.
Their choice to adopt a certain hatefully, defeatist mindset is certainly chosen, but "being an incel and thinking about women a lot" is a burden thrust upon them by evolutionary pressures. Whereas something like Jews is completely optional.
Being unable to get a woman lead me to hate jews as they're the ones responsible for the sexual revolution in the first place.
A lot of them are actually decent looking guys, it's just their mopey, self-defeating attitude that's utter pussy repellent. Girls have been saying Elliot Roger was good looking.
Yeah, because they want a greek hoplight to kick their trojan door in. Here is the great question: Is men's enemy women's primal id, or man's civilization building ego?
MGTOWs decided it was the id, and refuse to play women's game. They have (will have) removed themselves from the future.
Incels decided it was the ego, and are waiting for a critical mass and leader to emerge so they can resume history and play the game by biology's (ie, women's) rules.
Not even true, and yeah, ER looks good in pictures alone but if you saw him in perosn or with other people you'd notice just how small he was which is absolute pussy repellent.
Apparently eating 20% less of whatever he currently eats is impossible without doing drugs. We're supposed to have something above other animals : restrains over our own instincts.
''Don't make yourself fat'' is basically a cheat code in North America at this point.
Still not enough to succeed with women. literally 1 in 3 men on dating sites have to resort to steroid use and 1 in 4 go to the gym regularly
Because most health advice is garbage, and will leave you worse off. Simply trying under these circumstances will actually harm you. The simpler the better, the answer is Cod Liver Oil.
People use to date within their attractiveness level before but now with dating apps women's hypergamy is on overdrive. Society had spent decades if not centuries trying to reshape men's natural dating proclivities but never women.
Men's self help: "you need to"
Women's self help: "you deserve"
Filters, makeup and simps have convinced every average woman she is an 8+.
Its why the word "mid" is probably one of the most damaging things you can say to one.
even morbidly obese women have an easy time getting men.
8+? Everyone woman is a straight 10, and a 9 if she's feeling humble. All her friends are 9s, or 8s when she's saying she's a 9.
Sargon's coverage of the Hot Girls March, or whatever, was pretty fucking funny. They weren't exactly ugly, but none of the girls, at least in the pictures shown, were "hot." They all thought they were 9s and 10s.
This - femcels have launched an attack on "passport bros" in the past couple years, and it'll inevitably spread to the slanteyes given enough time and persistence.
Ultimately, just another societal plague caused by the 19th.
passport bros are shitty race mixers though. And femcels don't need to spread anything , im pretty sure asians wouldnt like their women being stolen regardless.
Even so, they would still sperg out if they were going to places like the Czech Republic or Hungary for their wives. They hate men making their own choices that they can't foster some degree of control over.
There's a chad/soyjak comic begging to be made, where a smug female soyjak says something to the effect of "Ha - we control the divorce courts and have a right to be the breadwinners of the household, you have to marry one of us if you want children!"
And in the second panel the Chad turns to face a now tearful soyjak, with his tradwife and children, and the 'jak crying "No - not like that!"
All the MGTOW movement was ever about was men voluntarily splitting away from the gynocentric society that now exists in American and most other Western nations, hence "going their own way". Angry femcels and jews turned it into "men becoming involuntarily celibate" and tuning out of the dating pool altogether. The subversion happened around 1948 when this photo was taken. The smug bitch wife knowing she's going to get a ton of shit she never earned off her own back. The fat jewish lawyer shamefully laughing at the husband's plight. This is what we as 21st Century men want to avoid and want no part of. Because once a jewish divorce lawyer hops into the ear of a faithless skank, the pair combined can create one of the most vindictive, evil creatures on the face of this Earth; the female divorcee.
Japan, once known for its strict gender roles and appreciation of feminine beauty, has become a feminist shithole on par with Worst Korea. A complete 180 from what it was thirty, even twenty years ago.
Literally no one sans Spain is even close to Worst Korea in terms of feminist problems. Like, they are getting bad and a very much real problem, but that's like comparing an amputated leg to being fucking blown apart.
Worst Korea managed to get a female puppet president controlled by an all female shadow cabal. They have open feminist terrorist orgs operating in the open.
They are way worse and that's important because its the example to show of what happens if we don't strangle these babies in the crib.
Not as bad yet but almost. They currently have a sort of #metoo going on, taking out famous men who enjoyed having sex with women a little too much. I predict one generation left after women take over the powerful roles in media. But yeah like TheOpiner opined, travel and technology giving women all the chads in the universe at their fingertips has made female hypergamy explode everywhere you go. There's no escape.
Also any woman you bring back home is just going to become a shitty western woman. We need to fix society, not import foreigners as if that's a fix.
Geomaxxing is definitely the way to go if having a family is nonnegotiable for you. I would have tried it had it been viable for me before I concluded that women are only good for sex.
Yeah but then you end up with hapa kids who hate your guts.
Travelling is like a cheat code for your sex life, for sure.
Too bad it curses any sons you have to be hapa incels.
Its Tinder. More than half of all women's profiles on it are bots or "content creators." So I'd wager the majority of those he matched with were in fact bots or shill accounts. The ones who either message you a snapchat/instagram account name and then immediately delete, or "talk" to you trying to push you towards subbing to their Onlyfans in a manner that makes it clear its an AI program.
So while his "match" metric is low, his "real physical person" number is probably a lot lower. Which would make the "got a date" metric relatively considerably higher.
The problem is likely expectations. Tinder is a sex app, any girl on it knows that, and all things they say to the contrary is meant to be anti-slut defenses that you are supposed to push through one way or another. Mr. Doughboy based on appearance alone is not someone I expect to be hitting the hard flirts within the first conversation, but its the only way to hook in girls with 90 other messages waiting. While he is trying to find a literal date with expectations of something beyond sex, meaning a lot of boring foundational conversations.
You say that like men are even able to get a date in the first place.
I have managed to use it in the past to decent success, so it is certainly possible. But that's why I know what women are using it for, what not to do, and why a guy looking like him is almost certainly doing all those things.
I've got an idea for a dating app where you don't pick your own matches. You match up other people based on their level of attractiveness.
Sounds like reinventing the wheel where we end up back at arranged marriages or third party matchmaking.
Part of the social contract is that ordinary looking guys get a reasonable chance at having ordinary looking wives and having families. Things start turning out badly when ordinary guys can bat 0 for 2 million.
He's a soyfaced fatty. That's the problem. No woman wants a weak fatty.
When your body fat percentage falls under 10%, you can't keep women off you.
Is this bizlet guy even the same guy as in the tinder profile? No one needs to go 'viral' like this. Also, this is the guy you're talking about.
Is his tinder history publicly accessible?
damn that's a rough 26
I'm in my 30s and look half his age
The right swipe means they are interested, correct?
Yes. He was intr in 2 million people but only one swiped back at him
I'd think the matches are swipe backs. So two thousand showed some interest, 1,200 went on to chat to some extent, but only one actually resulted in a date.
Amazing.
So it wasn't looks it was total lack of game.
I bet most of those were chicks selling their OF.
That doesn't sound right. The percentage of right swipes that turn into dates is in the single digits for non-chads. There's no way a guy could only get 1 right swipe out of 2 million and have that swipe turn into a date. It's likely the number of right swipes he got over those 5 years was in the triple digits and only one of those turned into a date.
Edit: Okay, I looked at the picture. That's a lot more in line with what I was expecting. He swiped right about 2 million times, and about 2000 of those swiped right back (a 0.1% match rate). He talked to about 1200 of those and only 1 resulted in a date (a little less than 0.1%), which went nowhere. So yeah, less than 0.1% of 0.1% of his swipes resulted in dates.
2k into one date, OP read the infographic wrong.
Matched with 2000 women, chatted with half of them, then bombed. Looks weren't his problem, it was being lame.
1900 of the 2000 were spambots or fiverr indians selling pornography
I posted my edit seconds before you responded lol. I didn't read the infographic until after my first response since I usually don't look too closely at Twitter pics posted here (considering how many troons are in those pics that's probably a good thing).