It WAS a problematic decade. Fucking hippies were running around everywhere, getting high on pot and other drugs, having public orgies, preaching how we should all love one another, man, and not kill without having a clue how human nature works. All of which has led to the shitty situation we're in now, with a society that's more obsessed with having sex than in actually having relationships, and is full of incompatible races, all but one of which are given free reign to be as violent, savage, and hateful as they want to be...
Oh, wait, those aren't the problems she's talking about. Never mind!
We don't have a neutral society with fanatical interlopers any more. It's the other way around, we've been infiltrated too deep. They've irradiated the bedrock. In the same way they can no longer just print what their enemy says - they have to headline it 'bad man claims (without evidence)' or completely fail to report it - they also can't risk just showing different eras and value systems unaltered, because people might like them. We're living in commie totalitarianism.
Only 8% actually go for the psycho leftist nonsense. The perception that the majority of society buys into it instead of it being forced upon us, is false and created by media.
They're doing Galactus straight off the bat because they don't want to do Doctor Doom, probably because he's being setup as the emergency release option now that Kang imploded after the actor got canned. The fact the ones in charge have zero ability other than to run the F4 as a 2 trick pony of either Doom or Galactus just shows how incapable the whole thing is for them since there are still plenty of other F4 rogues to pick from without treading on either other MCU characters or simply Marvel characters as of yet untapped.
So expect Silver Surfer 2, Argent Boogaloo to flop even more than the previous one, challenging as that would have been for some until recently.
The Fantastic Four as an entire IP only exists still because of these two characters being popular. If Doom or Galactus were any less popular, the F4 would have ceased to exist decades ago. Nobody knows or cares about any of their other rogues in any real amount other than "oh hey that one."
Doom especially as he cannot be transplanted to another hero due to his backstory literally requiring Reed. If not for him, all their best guys would have long since been given away and them left in the background of history like so many other teams.
So they don't have much other choice, they aren't 2014 MCU that can turn minor characters into mega hits by using them. They need that pull now.
Hey now, who can forget such esteemed villains as Namor, wait the second Black Panther already fucked that one up so no potential cuckolding story with Sue this time Marvel!
What about The Council of Reeds, the inspiration for the Rick and Morty episode of the same theme using The Council of Ricks. That way all your villains get to be white men who you can then murder in outlandish ways that totally isn't murder porn and violence fantasies being written.
They could even go full MCU multiverse ham and blow all manner of build up and jump straight to fighting the Ultimates version of Reed known as The Maker, which is basically Reed actually psychopathic with zero emotional anchors.
Or maybe they could use the U Foes, who are basically "the evil Fantastic Four" since the dark mirror trope has been what pretty much every single MCU film did for every single character.
No, really.
Hulk vs Abomination.
Iron Man vs Iron Monger, then Whiplash, both in suits of their own.
Captain America vs Red Skull, both recipients of the same super soldier serum, the one Winter Soldier a recipient of a different serum.
Thor vs Loki, I guess.
Black Widow vs Red Widow.
Black Panther vs Killmonger.
Dr Strange vs Kaicelius.
Spider-Man vs Venom.
X-men mutants vs... other mutants.
It's one of the most consistent problems with the movies how they all rely on the same conflict.
Although I'd rather live in harmony and prosperity...considering that's off the table at the moment yeah, I'll enjoy when just liking stuff I already liked makes me a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot, or whatever.
You mean, I can hate bad video games, and like anime, and get Bigot Points for free?!
I only say this because I hate journalists more than I hate Disney. Was this some sort of actual statement or did some mouth breather at an event did the, "VANESSA, DOES FANTASTIC FOUR ADDRESS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A WOMAN?" and get a ".. yes?" so they could write a clickbait headline?
Edit:
Here's the actual quote, but Entertainment Weekly omits what they asked to get the response.
"If you played an exact '60s Sue today, everyone would think she was a bit of a doormat," Vanessa Kirby says. "So figuring out how to capture the essence of what she represented to each generation, where the gender politics were different, and embody that today, was one of the greatest joys of this."
Still a red flag. Then again, it's fucking Disney and the fifth (?) swing at a Fantastic Four movie. You reach a level of red flag where extra ones don't move the needle.
"If you played an exact '60s Sue today, everyone would think she was a bit of a doormat,"
Wow they really do look down on their grandmas huh? I suppose being caring and considerate of their man is equivalent to being a doormat as oppose to modern standards where the default is a self-absorbed bitch?
There are so many FF comics they could use. Or retell the story of Galactus and how the Watcher came to warn them. Female surfer is moronic. Norin Radd is a slam dunk choice
retell the story of Galactus and how the Watcher came to warn them
They'd just make the Watcher female in that story.
"All the male Watchers don't want to interfere, but me, a strong and independent thinking Watcheress shall warn you!"
Or make him black and do the whole "magic negro" thing that's also been done over and over like in The Adjustment Bureau when the only "angel" that helps is Anthony Mackie.
Goodbye Marvel and fuck ABC/ Disney. When I seen that queer Pedro Pascal was in it and a female Silver Surfer I knew they were ready to lose more cash. Fucking faggots.Stan Lee is rolling in his grave. MAGA AF
They can't help themselves, can they? You can't just have a set piece taking place in the 60s, you must talk about how problematic that decade was
It WAS a problematic decade. Fucking hippies were running around everywhere, getting high on pot and other drugs, having public orgies, preaching how we should all love one another, man, and not kill without having a clue how human nature works. All of which has led to the shitty situation we're in now, with a society that's more obsessed with having sex than in actually having relationships, and is full of incompatible races, all but one of which are given free reign to be as violent, savage, and hateful as they want to be...
Oh, wait, those aren't the problems she's talking about. Never mind!
We don't have a neutral society with fanatical interlopers any more. It's the other way around, we've been infiltrated too deep. They've irradiated the bedrock. In the same way they can no longer just print what their enemy says - they have to headline it 'bad man claims (without evidence)' or completely fail to report it - they also can't risk just showing different eras and value systems unaltered, because people might like them. We're living in commie totalitarianism.
Only 8% actually go for the psycho leftist nonsense. The perception that the majority of society buys into it instead of it being forced upon us, is false and created by media.
They're doing Galactus straight off the bat because they don't want to do Doctor Doom, probably because he's being setup as the emergency release option now that Kang imploded after the actor got canned. The fact the ones in charge have zero ability other than to run the F4 as a 2 trick pony of either Doom or Galactus just shows how incapable the whole thing is for them since there are still plenty of other F4 rogues to pick from without treading on either other MCU characters or simply Marvel characters as of yet untapped.
So expect Silver Surfer 2, Argent Boogaloo to flop even more than the previous one, challenging as that would have been for some until recently.
Let us be completely honest.
The Fantastic Four as an entire IP only exists still because of these two characters being popular. If Doom or Galactus were any less popular, the F4 would have ceased to exist decades ago. Nobody knows or cares about any of their other rogues in any real amount other than "oh hey that one."
Doom especially as he cannot be transplanted to another hero due to his backstory literally requiring Reed. If not for him, all their best guys would have long since been given away and them left in the background of history like so many other teams.
So they don't have much other choice, they aren't 2014 MCU that can turn minor characters into mega hits by using them. They need that pull now.
Hey now, who can forget such esteemed villains as Namor, wait the second Black Panther already fucked that one up so no potential cuckolding story with Sue this time Marvel!
What about The Council of Reeds, the inspiration for the Rick and Morty episode of the same theme using The Council of Ricks. That way all your villains get to be white men who you can then murder in outlandish ways that totally isn't murder porn and violence fantasies being written.
They could even go full MCU multiverse ham and blow all manner of build up and jump straight to fighting the Ultimates version of Reed known as The Maker, which is basically Reed actually psychopathic with zero emotional anchors.
Or maybe they could use the U Foes, who are basically "the evil Fantastic Four" since the dark mirror trope has been what pretty much every single MCU film did for every single character.
No, really.
Hulk vs Abomination.
Iron Man vs Iron Monger, then Whiplash, both in suits of their own.
Captain America vs Red Skull, both recipients of the same super soldier serum, the one Winter Soldier a recipient of a different serum.
Thor vs Loki, I guess.
Black Widow vs Red Widow.
Black Panther vs Killmonger.
Dr Strange vs Kaicelius.
Spider-Man vs Venom.
X-men mutants vs... other mutants.
It's one of the most consistent problems with the movies how they all rely on the same conflict.
RDJ is playing Doctor Doom in the next Avengers film.
Yes, I know. This is about the first MCU F4 film.
Greentext shitpost time.
And that's how they killed Kang...
Instead of 'gender politics' can't we just get 'is hot, has cool powers and is badass, and is actually liked by the fans?'
Just once?
No? Alright.
Looks like my days of watching anime are certainly reaching a middle.
Fans, namely straight while male fans, liking anything is problematic and needs to be stopped.
Just makes it all the sweeter.
Although I'd rather live in harmony and prosperity...considering that's off the table at the moment yeah, I'll enjoy when just liking stuff I already liked makes me a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot, or whatever.
You mean, I can hate bad video games, and like anime, and get Bigot Points for free?!
What anime has a female in skin tight sci-fi attire?
>Gestures towards the entire mecha genre.
WTF I love anime now!
GitS.
Some of those modifications she has are illegal
Tons of them, I'm sure, but I was more speaking in the general 'respects the audience' sort of way.
Literally any sci-fi anime
Neon Genesis Evangelion for one. Except they were teenagers and one was a clone of the male lead's mom, so not very wholesome.
Well there goes that slight intrest I had.
I only say this because I hate journalists more than I hate Disney. Was this some sort of actual statement or did some mouth breather at an event did the, "VANESSA, DOES FANTASTIC FOUR ADDRESS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A WOMAN?" and get a ".. yes?" so they could write a clickbait headline?
Edit:
Here's the actual quote, but Entertainment Weekly omits what they asked to get the response.
Still a red flag. Then again, it's fucking Disney and the fifth (?) swing at a Fantastic Four movie. You reach a level of red flag where extra ones don't move the needle.
Wow they really do look down on their grandmas huh? I suppose being caring and considerate of their man is equivalent to being a doormat as oppose to modern standards where the default is a self-absorbed bitch?
Here's all the gender politics you need to know-
I identify as non-buy-nary.
The 1994 Fantastic Four movie was never meant to be released.
It had almost zero budget.
And yet, it was made with LOVE and RESPECT.
They worked around the budget issue by focusing on characters instead of powers.
And that's why the movie's reputation has so improved in recent years.
The 2005 one is at least a guilty pleasure, I'll give you that.
Every F4 movie after...no, it sucks.
I really liked The Thing being practical effects rather than
a tennis ballCGI in those.“Ask me about my feminist agenda.”
“No, thanks.”
And it's already dead.
There are so many FF comics they could use. Or retell the story of Galactus and how the Watcher came to warn them. Female surfer is moronic. Norin Radd is a slam dunk choice
They'd just make the Watcher female in that story.
"All the male Watchers don't want to interfere, but me, a strong and independent thinking Watcheress shall warn you!"
Or make him black and do the whole "magic negro" thing that's also been done over and over like in The Adjustment Bureau when the only "angel" that helps is Anthony Mackie.
Good point
The haptic feedback for the corporate organism is money. When Tron Ares makes more than Snow White then Disney will start dropping more woke projects.
The Tron trailer looks interesting, but I'll hold out before getting excited. The concept looks cool, but it's Disney.
Goodbye Marvel and fuck ABC/ Disney. When I seen that queer Pedro Pascal was in it and a female Silver Surfer I knew they were ready to lose more cash. Fucking faggots.Stan Lee is rolling in his grave. MAGA AF