I will say, it's complicated. I'm not a fan of Pierre, but he's doing what he thinks he needs to to win.
Canadians are delusionally, retardedly, retardedly nationalistic. Even though there are a bunch of Canadians that like Trump, bashing Trump still probably sells better to Canadians overall...which is exactly why Pierre is right (if for the wrong reasons), and Canada cannot be the 51st state. Because we don't fucking want you, Canada. Get your shit together, and then we can talk about taking you over. Although I guess if you got your shit together you wouldn't need to be saved.
For real, Canadians are suffering from mass delusion when it comes to Canadian nationalism. Liberal, "conservative," doesn't matter. They'll lash out and attack anyone who they think is badmouthing Canada, in the most insane way they can think of.
This is, of course, on average, and no hate to the good and sane Canadians, few though they may be.
EDIT: Just how delusional am I talking? From here on KiA2, "Our soldiers know it. We know we can kick US butt on a 4:1 ratio, we're that good..." Another example, a conservative (by Canadian standards) Youtuber, Mr Sunshine Baby, who hates Trudeau...cheered on Trudeau 'getting one over on Trump' by doing exactly what Trump wanted, in regards to tariffs. He wasn't the only conservative Canadian to delusionally cheer on Trudeau caving to the US, either. Canadians are so desperate for a win they just make shit up, even the conservatives.
Canadian nationalism only appears when the perceived attack comes from the United States. Canadians have been sitting passively by for decades while Chinese Communists and Eurofag billionaires buy our government and our real estate and flood us with Indians and other third-worlders. Canadians were so unbothered by Trudeau calling us a "post-national" state that they re-elected him two more times.
No, Canadians are not nationalistic in any coherent sense of the word. Canadians are only able to define themselves in opposition to the United States, because we're basically just America's retarded cousin who lives on the edge of the trailer park and we don't want to admit it.
No, Canadians are not nationalistic in any coherent sense of the word.
Correct, I should have clarified. I meant verbally. They won't do shit for their country, many can't even define what "Canada" is, but if someone - especially the US, good point - says some shit, Canadians freak the fuck out and then suddenly act like caricatures of nationalists.
But, yeah, they're not nationalist in any actually useful sense. Which is sad.
Canadians are only able to define themselves in opposition to the United States
Yup, that's a big part of it, and why Pierre and others have to behave in such ways.
I'm still just laughing at this "buy Canadian" movement which is taking the nation by storm... which we tried to get people to care about 5 years ago when the threat was China.
Canadian politicians will literally sell the country to China, and normies will masturbate in glee as CCP tanks roll down the streets before Canada gets its shit together.
a conservative Youtuber who hates Trudeau cheered on Trudeau 'getting one over on Trump' by doing exactly what Trump wanted, in regards to tariffs.
Meanwhile, on the other end of the scale, there is a Canadian Vtuber I was watching, where despite having no strong political opinions she was saying "Look, if becoming American is what it takes to get rid of Trudeau, it is what it is."
Then again, maybe she can say what some of them would actually believe because as a Vtuber she can get away with no one knowing who she is and they cant attack her for it.
Oh this doesn't matter, Canada's fucked regardless.
I'm not a blackpiller, I FOUGHT with blackpillers a lot about Trump before he won in 2024 and the state of certain countries, but Canada is fucked because a main part of their identity is 'We're not Americans' so will do the opposite to whatever America is doing to show they are different.
This even means voting in the SAME government they've had for a decade that ruined them than vote in a guy that might get along with Trump. The Canadians that had common sense and could rationally think left Canada ALREADY thanks to the response of the trucker protests, all that's left is the retards and those too weak to speak outside the herd.
Sadly seems to be the case. All the smart ones and those with means got out of Canada. And that number increases by the day.
Some people call Viva Frie a coward for leaving Canada to live in Florida, but frankly only a fool would stay in a country that hates you and has shown that your rights are nonexistant.
80% of people believe whatever the Legacy Media tells them to believe.
They brag about it.
We are freaks because some time ago we started to question everything the gaming media told us, then what the entire legacy media told us.
Most people don't have the time or the mental energy, so they just ... don't care. More than that, if they start to care and to question the things that they verify their life suddenly gets more difficult.
Two thirds of my family acknowledges that I have been proven right by events on every single occasion that things are testable. I was right about COVID 19. I was right about inflation. Eventually (years from now) they will be forced to admit that I was right about Trump.
They fucking won't even talk to me because I won't back down. The closest we can come to any conversation is if we agree to speak of nothing with any meaning or consequence. "The weather is nice."; "This sandwich is slightly above average." etc.
My mother is a retired teacher and my sister is currently involved in education. Both of them were getting paid much more than I am, working in female dominated industries. If they had adopted my 'hate facts' they would have literally been run out of their jobs as pariahs by the other women they work with.
Does it matter if Pierre Poilievre costs the conservative party the election? They still want to keep immigration the same way as all the other parties do. They still have the same economic policies as all the other parties do. They state they were against lockdowns and other curbing of freedoms that the liberal government did but they didn't do much or anything at all until after sentiment turned against lockdown policies. We are stuck in a deadlock between three parties all of which are fundamentally the same but offer different platitudes.
As for annexed Canada, no amount of economic policies is going to change the fact that Canada has had too many years of corruption and too few years growing any industry that might have made Canada a powerful country. We cannot fight and win against thousands of tanks with our 72. Or fight thousands of aircraft with our hundreds. Nor can we counter aircraft carriers, rocket artillery or even regular self-propelled artillery with our own because we don't have any.
I disagree. Putting massive tariffs on Canada is not in the interests of Canadians. Nor is wanting to put economic pressure to make them the 51st state. It's natural that they would not like that and resent Trump for it.
I don't begrudge Trump for advocating for America's interests, but that also mean you cannot begrudge Canadians for advocating for Canada's interests.
There's a difference between advocating for your interests and being a dumbass. Canadians often fall into the latter camp.
It would be smarter to sit down and talk it out with Trump. I get you have to put up some fight, optically if nothing else, as you can't just cave and do what some other country wants, even if it benefits you, as it just makes you look weaker in the long run. But Canadians take it to a ridiculous degree.
There's a difference between advocating for your interests and being a dumbass. Canadians often fall into the latter camp.
No disagreement there.
It would be smarter to sit down and talk it out with Trump
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think you are correct. And I think Canadians generally deserve to be screwed. But I find it understandable that they would be angry. And as you shrewdly recognized, someone like Poilevere must appear as a stand-up person who can stand up to Trump, or they're going to paint him as a pushover who will sell out Canadian interests because of his sympathy for Trump - sort of like a reverse Russiagate, as ridiculous.
But Canadians take it to a ridiculous degree.
Small dog syndrome. The British are the same: always warmongering. A British urinalists recently had a talk in the Youtube channel for The Times, a major 'center-right' newspaper, in which he said that war with Russia is IMMINENT.
It would be smarter to sit down and talk it out with Trump
Perhaps, perhaps not.
It doesn't matter. Canada offers very little to the USA. It is a one sided trade arrangement, where Canada benefits the most.
If Trump wants to start a trade war, the quality of life of every normie Canadian will fall until Trump says stop.
If Trump moves from tariffs to sanctions, two winters from now, Canadians will be burning corpses and furniture to stay warm.
So, what the fuck are Canadians going to do about it? Sound and fury? Vote against their own interests? March in the streets? Offer their asshole to the CCP again? All of that is useless.
The impression I get is that the conservative party in Canada is basically just as bad as Trudeau's party and there's no Canadian Trump who can punch through and fix things. The only guy who could possibly do it is Wayne Gretzky and he doesn't want the job.
There's Maxime Bernier in Canada who is kind of like if Rand Paul sounded like JF Gariepy.
Mad Max has been a political failure though in that he's still only polling at 2% nationally, completely failing on gaining ground by capitalizing on COVID and mass migration discontent.
Pierre HAS TO SAY THAT stuff, because the CBC and the rest of Canada's government-bought Media have been pushing "he's the same as Trump" for the past 6+ months.
Trump does him a big favour whenever he "disrespects" Poilievre eh?
Standing up for Canada from a position of strength is just common sense, which is why the Liberal party cannot do it, ever.
For all the big talk Poilievre says about common sense, you can sense he's just a cuckservative, do nothing tradcuck that only wants to preserve the status quo and ultimately kneel at the ultar of zionism. Even when he becomes a prime minister, he'll not do a thing about troon problem.
He wants to get in good with all the Globalist WEF simps. "Conservative" in Canadian means that they're still just a millimeter right of a full blown Marxist.
As someone that lives here, Canada is already gone. Those nationalists seem to have forgotten what Canada looks like now that it's brown town.
If I could afford to get out, I would. But the US dollar is killing my ability to go there, and other countries that seem like a good idea are starting to look like Canada 25 years ago.
Once you see the rot, it's too late to turn the ship around. It's entrenched already. It takes decades to right itself, and I don't have the luxury of fighting it anymore.
He'll come around. He'll have a meeting with T and he'll tell him that he's just F'ing with Canada to get them to do something good for themselves. Art of the deal baby, art of the deal
I will say, it's complicated. I'm not a fan of Pierre, but he's doing what he thinks he needs to to win.
Canadians are delusionally, retardedly, retardedly nationalistic. Even though there are a bunch of Canadians that like Trump, bashing Trump still probably sells better to Canadians overall...which is exactly why Pierre is right (if for the wrong reasons), and Canada cannot be the 51st state. Because we don't fucking want you, Canada. Get your shit together, and then we can talk about taking you over. Although I guess if you got your shit together you wouldn't need to be saved.
For real, Canadians are suffering from mass delusion when it comes to Canadian nationalism. Liberal, "conservative," doesn't matter. They'll lash out and attack anyone who they think is badmouthing Canada, in the most insane way they can think of.
This is, of course, on average, and no hate to the good and sane Canadians, few though they may be.
EDIT: Just how delusional am I talking? From here on KiA2, "Our soldiers know it. We know we can kick US butt on a 4:1 ratio, we're that good..." Another example, a conservative (by Canadian standards) Youtuber, Mr Sunshine Baby, who hates Trudeau...cheered on Trudeau 'getting one over on Trump' by doing exactly what Trump wanted, in regards to tariffs. He wasn't the only conservative Canadian to delusionally cheer on Trudeau caving to the US, either. Canadians are so desperate for a win they just make shit up, even the conservatives.
Canadian nationalism only appears when the perceived attack comes from the United States. Canadians have been sitting passively by for decades while Chinese Communists and Eurofag billionaires buy our government and our real estate and flood us with Indians and other third-worlders. Canadians were so unbothered by Trudeau calling us a "post-national" state that they re-elected him two more times.
No, Canadians are not nationalistic in any coherent sense of the word. Canadians are only able to define themselves in opposition to the United States, because we're basically just America's retarded cousin who lives on the edge of the trailer park and we don't want to admit it.
Correct, I should have clarified. I meant verbally. They won't do shit for their country, many can't even define what "Canada" is, but if someone - especially the US, good point - says some shit, Canadians freak the fuck out and then suddenly act like caricatures of nationalists.
But, yeah, they're not nationalist in any actually useful sense. Which is sad.
Yup, that's a big part of it, and why Pierre and others have to behave in such ways.
I'm still just laughing at this "buy Canadian" movement which is taking the nation by storm... which we tried to get people to care about 5 years ago when the threat was China.
The Chinese are just as Canadian as you or me!
Canadian politicians will literally sell the country to China, and normies will masturbate in glee as CCP tanks roll down the streets before Canada gets its shit together.
Meanwhile, on the other end of the scale, there is a Canadian Vtuber I was watching, where despite having no strong political opinions she was saying "Look, if becoming American is what it takes to get rid of Trudeau, it is what it is."
Then again, maybe she can say what some of them would actually believe because as a Vtuber she can get away with no one knowing who she is and they cant attack her for it.
Mandatory service would cause fragging incidents as Canada would be considered the corrupt government that started the war with the US.
TIL nationalism = constantly apologizing to the tribals who lost to your settler forefathers and replacing your people with infinity pajeets. 🤗
Oh this doesn't matter, Canada's fucked regardless.
I'm not a blackpiller, I FOUGHT with blackpillers a lot about Trump before he won in 2024 and the state of certain countries, but Canada is fucked because a main part of their identity is 'We're not Americans' so will do the opposite to whatever America is doing to show they are different.
This even means voting in the SAME government they've had for a decade that ruined them than vote in a guy that might get along with Trump. The Canadians that had common sense and could rationally think left Canada ALREADY thanks to the response of the trucker protests, all that's left is the retards and those too weak to speak outside the herd.
Sadly seems to be the case. All the smart ones and those with means got out of Canada. And that number increases by the day.
Some people call Viva Frie a coward for leaving Canada to live in Florida, but frankly only a fool would stay in a country that hates you and has shown that your rights are nonexistant.
80% of people believe whatever the Legacy Media tells them to believe.
They brag about it.
We are freaks because some time ago we started to question everything the gaming media told us, then what the entire legacy media told us.
Most people don't have the time or the mental energy, so they just ... don't care. More than that, if they start to care and to question the things that they verify their life suddenly gets more difficult.
Two thirds of my family acknowledges that I have been proven right by events on every single occasion that things are testable. I was right about COVID 19. I was right about inflation. Eventually (years from now) they will be forced to admit that I was right about Trump.
They fucking won't even talk to me because I won't back down. The closest we can come to any conversation is if we agree to speak of nothing with any meaning or consequence. "The weather is nice."; "This sandwich is slightly above average." etc.
My mother is a retired teacher and my sister is currently involved in education. Both of them were getting paid much more than I am, working in female dominated industries. If they had adopted my 'hate facts' they would have literally been run out of their jobs as pariahs by the other women they work with.
This is standard.
Does it matter if Pierre Poilievre costs the conservative party the election? They still want to keep immigration the same way as all the other parties do. They still have the same economic policies as all the other parties do. They state they were against lockdowns and other curbing of freedoms that the liberal government did but they didn't do much or anything at all until after sentiment turned against lockdown policies. We are stuck in a deadlock between three parties all of which are fundamentally the same but offer different platitudes.
As for annexed Canada, no amount of economic policies is going to change the fact that Canada has had too many years of corruption and too few years growing any industry that might have made Canada a powerful country. We cannot fight and win against thousands of tanks with our 72. Or fight thousands of aircraft with our hundreds. Nor can we counter aircraft carriers, rocket artillery or even regular self-propelled artillery with our own because we don't have any.
A good strategic choice.
Sadly correct, which is a massive condemnation on Canadians.
I disagree. Putting massive tariffs on Canada is not in the interests of Canadians. Nor is wanting to put economic pressure to make them the 51st state. It's natural that they would not like that and resent Trump for it.
I don't begrudge Trump for advocating for America's interests, but that also mean you cannot begrudge Canadians for advocating for Canada's interests.
There's a difference between advocating for your interests and being a dumbass. Canadians often fall into the latter camp.
It would be smarter to sit down and talk it out with Trump. I get you have to put up some fight, optically if nothing else, as you can't just cave and do what some other country wants, even if it benefits you, as it just makes you look weaker in the long run. But Canadians take it to a ridiculous degree.
No disagreement there.
Perhaps, perhaps not. I think you are correct. And I think Canadians generally deserve to be screwed. But I find it understandable that they would be angry. And as you shrewdly recognized, someone like Poilevere must appear as a stand-up person who can stand up to Trump, or they're going to paint him as a pushover who will sell out Canadian interests because of his sympathy for Trump - sort of like a reverse Russiagate, as ridiculous.
Small dog syndrome. The British are the same: always warmongering. A British urinalists recently had a talk in the Youtube channel for The Times, a major 'center-right' newspaper, in which he said that war with Russia is IMMINENT.
It doesn't matter. Canada offers very little to the USA. It is a one sided trade arrangement, where Canada benefits the most.
If Trump wants to start a trade war, the quality of life of every normie Canadian will fall until Trump says stop.
If Trump moves from tariffs to sanctions, two winters from now, Canadians will be burning corpses and furniture to stay warm.
So, what the fuck are Canadians going to do about it? Sound and fury? Vote against their own interests? March in the streets? Offer their asshole to the CCP again? All of that is useless.
IE what Mexico is doing..
The impression I get is that the conservative party in Canada is basically just as bad as Trudeau's party and there's no Canadian Trump who can punch through and fix things. The only guy who could possibly do it is Wayne Gretzky and he doesn't want the job.
There's Maxime Bernier in Canada who is kind of like if Rand Paul sounded like JF Gariepy.
Mad Max has been a political failure though in that he's still only polling at 2% nationally, completely failing on gaining ground by capitalizing on COVID and mass migration discontent.
Pierre HAS TO SAY THAT stuff, because the CBC and the rest of Canada's government-bought Media have been pushing "he's the same as Trump" for the past 6+ months.
Trump does him a big favour whenever he "disrespects" Poilievre eh?
Standing up for Canada from a position of strength is just common sense, which is why the Liberal party cannot do it, ever.
For all the big talk Poilievre says about common sense, you can sense he's just a cuckservative, do nothing tradcuck that only wants to preserve the status quo and ultimately kneel at the ultar of zionism. Even when he becomes a prime minister, he'll not do a thing about troon problem.
Just a "little goy from the Prairies"
He wants to get in good with all the Globalist WEF simps. "Conservative" in Canadian means that they're still just a millimeter right of a full blown Marxist.
Literally broadcasting something by spending money to draw attention to it as part of a campaign is not "getting caught" lol
FUCK NO. We don't want a country full of retarded Snow Californians, pajeets and goat fuckers.
As someone that lives here, Canada is already gone. Those nationalists seem to have forgotten what Canada looks like now that it's brown town.
If I could afford to get out, I would. But the US dollar is killing my ability to go there, and other countries that seem like a good idea are starting to look like Canada 25 years ago.
Once you see the rot, it's too late to turn the ship around. It's entrenched already. It takes decades to right itself, and I don't have the luxury of fighting it anymore.
Absolutely not. No one wants that flood of jeets.
So it comes back to Drama Queen Justine's public crying campaign strategy?
He'll come around. He'll have a meeting with T and he'll tell him that he's just F'ing with Canada to get them to do something good for themselves. Art of the deal baby, art of the deal
His neighbour talks about annexing Canada repeatedly and 80% of Canadians have a very negative opinion of Trump.
''Opposing Trump'' without being a total retard about it is as far as a politician can go in current climate.
Tarifs are not ''unacceptable'' though. The USA has every right to set tarifs on imports. You don't get to ''unaccept'' tarifs.
You get to rebuild your country's autonomy so that other counties putting tarifs isn't an existencial threat.
He's always been controlled opposite.
Canada is over, idiots. The WEF coup is complete. Globohomo bankers is all you get, forever.