Maybe I'm mistaken about the definition of "review bombing" but this doesn't seem like it to me. Negative reviews for an update that bricks your game seem perfectly reasonable to me
Review bombing just became one of those terms they use to describe "anytime a lot of people review at once."
While it itself is a neutral definition, they know most people will read it and assume its a negative thing done by whiny losers, which is part of why journos deserve the rope.
Negative reviews for an update that bricks your game seem perfectly reasonable to me
Except in this case it wasn't anyone involved in the game that did the update. I don't think it's fair to punish devs (even Ubisoft) for Microsoft shitting the bed again.
It sucks people can't play the game, but they should wait patiently, or "review bomb" Microsoft somehow. Sounds like Ubisoft is trying to fix the issue, and isn't the (primary) party at fault in this instance.
Leaving negative reviews for a game that worked up until someone else did something doesn't seem fair.
EDIT: I didn't realize it had been months. I thought about putting a 'sunset clause' style disclaimer in my original statement, and should have. Past a certain point - and months qualify - it is back on the devs' heads. So, yeah, fuck Ubisoft.
Here's some added context, then. The update happened two entire months ago. "Assassin's Creed Origins" wasn't the only Ubisoft game affected. Amongst others, there was also "Star Wars: Outlaws" and an Avatar game. Both of those games were quickly patched, and now work perfectly fine. AC is the only one that still cannot run; that crashes immediately, even after all that time. They waited months, before starting to leave all of these negative reviews. Even worse, the game is still being sold on Steam, even when it doesn't work.
At this point, I'd say that the complaints are perfectly justified.
Nah Ubisoft deserve this. For one the game has been unplayable for 2 months now, whilst they've patched some of the newer games that the same update bricked. And it appears the update only bricked the games in the first place because of the stupid obtrusive DRM bullshit they package along with their useless mandatory 3rd party launcher.
Devs don't get to make stupid unnecessary points of failure and completely ignore the consequences of their own actions just because outside actions brought those consequences to light.
Yeah, the flaming bags of dogshit need to be left on Microsoft's doorstep. They have been dropping the ball so fucking hard for the last decade and not getting any flak for it. Light them the fuck up over this and shine a light on just how badly the Windows operating system is being mismanaged. It is nothing short of criminal.
They only managed to pry Windows 7 from my grip a few months ago and I'll be riding Windows 10 LTSC all the way to 2032...and probably longer if my previous rig is anything to go by.
Windows 7 was a beautifully matured product. All they needed to do was keep it stable and patch security vulnerabilities and it would be fine for another twenty years. Everything past that operating system has been a degradation in quality and control of the system.
They already have their enterprise licensing shit for that. They make ungodly amounts of money licensing their OS and office software to businesses. They didn't need to burn their good products to the ground, they just needed to continue charging businesses for products that worked like they'd been doing for years already.
I thoroughly reject the premise that they needed to change the OS in order to sell it again because they were already on the subscription model for perpetual revenue.
Linux is just a different set of headaches and ones you don't have decades of familiarity with circumventing. It's a case of the devil you know, but goddamn do I hate what it means for the future of PC gaming, or just PCs in general.
I still feel like I should give it a try and just have two computers: productivity and gaming. That way I spend less time on a Microsoft product.
If you want to start using Linux, and you're not trying to use it for gaming, I'd run it in a VM. You can even then boot your computer off the same Linux image that you run in the VM, if you set the thing up right.
I run Linux all the time, but I've never had the inclination to try and game on it. I do keep separate PCs for gaming just because gaming and all the twiddling you have to do tend to interrupt actual work. Make you reboot, and shit.
I think there's a threshold at which it simply stops being viable. It's the "no man is an island" principle. You can't prosper by cutting yourself off from the whole of humanity and you can't realistically cut yourself out of these digital ecosystems either. Mitigate where you can, but ultimately these systems matter and it's important that they be shoved in the right direction because otherwise we will suffer the consequences. You can't really opt out.
I had to switch to Win10 in 2023, when my 10 year old laptop finally started to show signs, it was on the last of its legs. I hope this laptop will last as long.
I would have put Win7 on this one as well, if it had been at all possible, lol.
The main issue is that I'm just not tech savvy enough to deal with all the issues that would come with even attempting it.
You have to find compatible drivers for everything and if they don't exist you have to find a component that has compatible drivers. I'm limited by a laptop, narrowing down my choices even more. Not sure where you can even get a laptop configured this specifically. I'm not confident I could built my own. (I assume it would be trickier than building your own PC, and honestly I'm not even sure I could pull that off.)
The compatibility issue starts with the motherboard. Not every motherboard works and even with the ones that do, you have to configure something in the BIOS to make it possible to boot Win7.
Even if I manage all that and get Win7 installed, there's no telling what will happen if I encounter some issues between a program I'm running and the hardware drivers. I sure couldn't fix it on my own and with a such specific configurations, I'm not confident I could even find help on the internet.
All of this sounds unfamiliar to me, or like it's an issue specific to laptops. I don't think I've ever heard of drivers being an issue for Windows 7. I think what you're more likely running into is that fresh builds, be they laptop or desktop, need to simply have motherboard drivers installed. Usually you just need to find out the motherboard model or in your case the laptop model and then go to the manufacturer's website and download the drivers. It's just a bunch of .exe installers you gotta run before stuff like your network interface card will work properly.
I think you're getting into your own head with this one. The real hurdle I ran into with running 7 for so long was that Chrome stopped supporting 7 and you started running into some weirdness there.
Oh really? So it should still work or mostly work even on new hardware? (If the BIOS works that is.) When I looked into it almost 2 years ago, everywhere I looked people just wrote that almost no new hardware has drivers for Win7. And the 1 or 2 posts I found about someone who managed to get it running successfully, were complaining about what a hassle it was to get everything working.
This really makes me curious, but I'm not sure, if I'm brave enough to wipe Win10 off my harddrive... Although, I did get a USB with my laptop that should be a proper installer and not just a backup that requires Win10 to be already on there...
Updates like that should be considered computer hacking a dealt with appropriately. There needs to be an end to fucking with peoples devices with endless updates.
The part that amazes me is how much effort Windows puts into making refusing updates an utter and complete chore.
At one point, you could turn it off via playing with msconfig. Easy. Now you have to go and hunt and peck for various stupid timers that auto-reactivate if you don't get all of them, and I'm sure it's gotten only worse with windows 11.
Just, stop trying to shove your bloated spyware onto my PC. Christ.
I want Microsoft employees flogged in the streets over this shit. It is absolutely criminal what is being done to that company and it is going to have dire consequences for everyone.
I wouldn't make that claim without knowing why these games stopped working. If it's something like Ubisoft's DRM being blocked from doing something it shouldn't, then the update's a good thing.
The game being unplayable deserves bad reviews.
That is not "review bombing." Yes, I realize MS broke it, but Ubi always deserves it.
"To safeguard your Windows update experience, we have applied a compatibility hold on devices with these games installed. These devices will not be offered to install Windows 11, version 24H2 via the Windows Update release channel."
Casually mentioning that MS is monitoring what you have installed.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this solely Ubisoft's issue? Ultimately I don't give a shit and both companies should burn, but if I code an update for my product and it happens to be incompatable with a completely unrelated product, how is that my problem?
Meanwhile the game works fine with the latest updates to an Arch Linux rolling release (also used for SteamOS) with Proton on Steam without the need for said updates to brick the game. The game designed for Windows now works better on an up to date Linux install than a Windows one. What a time to be alive!
Maybe I'm mistaken about the definition of "review bombing" but this doesn't seem like it to me. Negative reviews for an update that bricks your game seem perfectly reasonable to me
Review bombing just became one of those terms they use to describe "anytime a lot of people review at once."
While it itself is a neutral definition, they know most people will read it and assume its a negative thing done by whiny losers, which is part of why journos deserve the rope.
Except in this case it wasn't anyone involved in the game that did the update. I don't think it's fair to punish devs (even Ubisoft) for Microsoft shitting the bed again.
It sucks people can't play the game, but they should wait patiently, or "review bomb" Microsoft somehow. Sounds like Ubisoft is trying to fix the issue, and isn't the (primary) party at fault in this instance.
Leaving negative reviews for a game that worked up until someone else did something doesn't seem fair.
EDIT: I didn't realize it had been months. I thought about putting a 'sunset clause' style disclaimer in my original statement, and should have. Past a certain point - and months qualify - it is back on the devs' heads. So, yeah, fuck Ubisoft.
Here's some added context, then. The update happened two entire months ago. "Assassin's Creed Origins" wasn't the only Ubisoft game affected. Amongst others, there was also "Star Wars: Outlaws" and an Avatar game. Both of those games were quickly patched, and now work perfectly fine. AC is the only one that still cannot run; that crashes immediately, even after all that time. They waited months, before starting to leave all of these negative reviews. Even worse, the game is still being sold on Steam, even when it doesn't work.
At this point, I'd say that the complaints are perfectly justified.
Yeah, I should have added a disclaimer.
If you leave your game in a literally unplayable state for months, yeah, you deserve the negative reviews at that point. Oof.
I sincerely agree, with that context.
I see your point. But if I'm the customer and only have the one option to leave a comment, I'm commenting there.
Nah Ubisoft deserve this. For one the game has been unplayable for 2 months now, whilst they've patched some of the newer games that the same update bricked. And it appears the update only bricked the games in the first place because of the stupid obtrusive DRM bullshit they package along with their useless mandatory 3rd party launcher.
Devs don't get to make stupid unnecessary points of failure and completely ignore the consequences of their own actions just because outside actions brought those consequences to light.
Yeah, the flaming bags of dogshit need to be left on Microsoft's doorstep. They have been dropping the ball so fucking hard for the last decade and not getting any flak for it. Light them the fuck up over this and shine a light on just how badly the Windows operating system is being mismanaged. It is nothing short of criminal.
This argument is like the Amazon equivalent of not judging the product because of the price.
It’s all part of the same package.
Battle of the pajeet shitbox software
This guy understands
Remember to upgrade to Windows 11 by October 14, cattle.
Last remaining Windows XP users: "YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!!!"
They only managed to pry Windows 7 from my grip a few months ago and I'll be riding Windows 10 LTSC all the way to 2032...and probably longer if my previous rig is anything to go by.
Windows 7 was a beautifully matured product. All they needed to do was keep it stable and patch security vulnerabilities and it would be fine for another twenty years. Everything past that operating system has been a degradation in quality and control of the system.
You can't make money making a great long-lasting product. Gotta push shit shovelware 24/7.
They already have their enterprise licensing shit for that. They make ungodly amounts of money licensing their OS and office software to businesses. They didn't need to burn their good products to the ground, they just needed to continue charging businesses for products that worked like they'd been doing for years already.
I thoroughly reject the premise that they needed to change the OS in order to sell it again because they were already on the subscription model for perpetual revenue.
Welcome to the rent-seeking economy.
I kinda just want to give up on Windows and switch to Linux, but I need Windows for games.
Linux is just a different set of headaches and ones you don't have decades of familiarity with circumventing. It's a case of the devil you know, but goddamn do I hate what it means for the future of PC gaming, or just PCs in general.
I still feel like I should give it a try and just have two computers: productivity and gaming. That way I spend less time on a Microsoft product.
It sucks, but doing it right is the only way to go forward. De-google, De-Microsoft, De-Amazon, De-Mastercard. We just have to.
If you want to start using Linux, and you're not trying to use it for gaming, I'd run it in a VM. You can even then boot your computer off the same Linux image that you run in the VM, if you set the thing up right.
I run Linux all the time, but I've never had the inclination to try and game on it. I do keep separate PCs for gaming just because gaming and all the twiddling you have to do tend to interrupt actual work. Make you reboot, and shit.
I think there's a threshold at which it simply stops being viable. It's the "no man is an island" principle. You can't prosper by cutting yourself off from the whole of humanity and you can't realistically cut yourself out of these digital ecosystems either. Mitigate where you can, but ultimately these systems matter and it's important that they be shoved in the right direction because otherwise we will suffer the consequences. You can't really opt out.
Yeah, but nobody ever tries. I'm like the only one I know that tries, and it's not too bad because there's all sorts of little ways around stuff.
It's true that no man's an island, but you have to support anti-parallel systems if you want them to exist.
I had to switch to Win10 in 2023, when my 10 year old laptop finally started to show signs, it was on the last of its legs. I hope this laptop will last as long.
I would have put Win7 on this one as well, if it had been at all possible, lol.
What stopped you?
The main issue is that I'm just not tech savvy enough to deal with all the issues that would come with even attempting it.
You have to find compatible drivers for everything and if they don't exist you have to find a component that has compatible drivers. I'm limited by a laptop, narrowing down my choices even more. Not sure where you can even get a laptop configured this specifically. I'm not confident I could built my own. (I assume it would be trickier than building your own PC, and honestly I'm not even sure I could pull that off.)
The compatibility issue starts with the motherboard. Not every motherboard works and even with the ones that do, you have to configure something in the BIOS to make it possible to boot Win7.
Even if I manage all that and get Win7 installed, there's no telling what will happen if I encounter some issues between a program I'm running and the hardware drivers. I sure couldn't fix it on my own and with a such specific configurations, I'm not confident I could even find help on the internet.
All of this sounds unfamiliar to me, or like it's an issue specific to laptops. I don't think I've ever heard of drivers being an issue for Windows 7. I think what you're more likely running into is that fresh builds, be they laptop or desktop, need to simply have motherboard drivers installed. Usually you just need to find out the motherboard model or in your case the laptop model and then go to the manufacturer's website and download the drivers. It's just a bunch of .exe installers you gotta run before stuff like your network interface card will work properly.
I think you're getting into your own head with this one. The real hurdle I ran into with running 7 for so long was that Chrome stopped supporting 7 and you started running into some weirdness there.
Oh really? So it should still work or mostly work even on new hardware? (If the BIOS works that is.) When I looked into it almost 2 years ago, everywhere I looked people just wrote that almost no new hardware has drivers for Win7. And the 1 or 2 posts I found about someone who managed to get it running successfully, were complaining about what a hassle it was to get everything working.
This really makes me curious, but I'm not sure, if I'm brave enough to wipe Win10 off my harddrive... Although, I did get a USB with my laptop that should be a proper installer and not just a backup that requires Win10 to be already on there...
there are dozens of us! DOZENS!!!
Can I just skip to 12? Haha no your computer hardwares aren't compatible
Updates like that should be considered computer hacking a dealt with appropriately. There needs to be an end to fucking with peoples devices with endless updates.
The part that amazes me is how much effort Windows puts into making refusing updates an utter and complete chore.
At one point, you could turn it off via playing with msconfig. Easy. Now you have to go and hunt and peck for various stupid timers that auto-reactivate if you don't get all of them, and I'm sure it's gotten only worse with windows 11.
Just, stop trying to shove your bloated spyware onto my PC. Christ.
I want Microsoft employees flogged in the streets over this shit. It is absolutely criminal what is being done to that company and it is going to have dire consequences for everyone.
I wouldn't make that claim without knowing why these games stopped working. If it's something like Ubisoft's DRM being blocked from doing something it shouldn't, then the update's a good thing.
The game being unplayable deserves bad reviews.
That is not "review bombing." Yes, I realize MS broke it, but Ubi always deserves it.
Casually mentioning that MS is monitoring what you have installed.
Microsoft isn't content with breaking it's own software. It has to break everyone elses' too.
"WHY WON'T PEOPLE UPDATE WINDOWS?"
Guess, retard.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this solely Ubisoft's issue? Ultimately I don't give a shit and both companies should burn, but if I code an update for my product and it happens to be incompatable with a completely unrelated product, how is that my problem?
Meanwhile the game works fine with the latest updates to an Arch Linux rolling release (also used for SteamOS) with Proton on Steam without the need for said updates to brick the game. The game designed for Windows now works better on an up to date Linux install than a Windows one. What a time to be alive!