That's not a fair summation of what he said, mostly it's a cultural critique against American culture, but it can still be kept up. Source is the link. It's a hyperbolic interpretation for satire.
And they're not very good, even if they really are coders. It's an open secret with Indian immigration that a huge portion of them just bought their degrees and certifications. I don't mean bought their way into the school, I mean literally just bought the diploma. They figure out what certificates and paperwork they need to get into the US, buy said paperwork from 'universities' in India that only exist to print legal fake diplomas, and then come here and take a job from an American. Once they know what the job is, they'll spend a few weeks doing a crash course in the bare basics and jargon so they can sound like they belong, while any real work assigned to them they just go online to get AI or Chinamen to write for them and send it in as their own. And once they get enough of them into those jobs, they all cover for each other.
Maybe every technological species gets cursed with its equivalent of pakijeets and niggers, high-breeding devil-heads.
Someone ought to remind Muskrat that corpos like himi LOVE downsizing, when he starts screeching about "low birth rates" (which I believe is just a lie, "climate change for the human-worshiping right). I remember when targets like him would tell us how wonderful and great for the economy downsizing is as they handed out the pink slips.
So if they were being honest, it's the WHITE birth rate that's dropped. Not the HUMAN birth rate ....
Irresponsible breeders coughing out incestuous retards. by the billion is great if you love a population of livestock, II iguess. Like the dude in Greek mythology who was fine with replacing his own people with ants.
Turns out when you force the majority group of people who provide a net benefit and output to pay for leeches, they have fewer resources to have children.
Are you ascribing financially literate family planning to people who are on welfare? lol
Feminism is what kills birthrates. If you give women the freedom to piss away their fertile years riding the carousel and girlbossing, your birthrate will collapse. That’s why the only nations with healthy birthrates are so “oppressive” aka religious and/or primitive.
The more I think about how Vivek said American culture is "inferior" to country that lacks indoor plumbing and has a horrific rape problem, the angrier I get.
I was hoping for a reference to the child-stealing toilet witches.
We’ve made public toilets but people still don’t use them,” said Anil Prajapati, chairman of the Gujarat Sanitation Development Organisation. Some of these people fear that there are witches inside or that their children will be kidnapped.These people have come from small villages, and so they are not used to the practice.
This can't be anything other than latent anti-white hatred - the acknowledgement that America has cultural problems for its professional underachievement, but that they all happen to be traceable to white pop-cultural references from the 90s, which happens to be the last generational memory of a high trust, good-natured society... and the only mention of non-white culture is about the heroic immigrant families who RESISTED the poisonous mediocrity culture of their host nation at this time, enabling them to excel over whites! Incredible.
I think any brown person who snuck into a white society when the going was good and wants to continue living in it needs to shut their fucking mouth for a few years while watching out for that pendulum swing, how about that.
Also Whiplash fucking sucked, fuck that movie and fuck jazz.
Whiplash was awesome. If you've ever played at that level--or even close to that level--a lot in that movie resonates. Plus, JK Simmons is awesome in everything he does.
That’s just, like, your opinion man. That’s fine if you don’t like it, but “talentless” is hard to back up, and it was expanded from highschool jazz band experiences, not middle school.
We need to be ok saying we don't want them here even if it makes us racist. They don't look American, they don't act American, and they will never be American.
My number one concern about Trump is that he's packing the administration with jeets who are going to fly other jeets in by the millions to replace Americans.
I am very afraid this is going to be Americans version of what the Tories did to the UK.
I actually read his post and he's not wrong in what he says. American's aren't hungry in the way someone who's starving is.
What he overlooks is that a country with a crazy work culture (Like India) doesn't solve is the actual inherent competence. I can work as hard as I want but I'll never play in the NBA. You just can't outwork an 80 IQ, but you can cheat and buy fake credentials.
He's saying what we've all been saying for decades: American culture celebrates mediocrity and midwittery. It's why we have affirmative action. It's why we have no child left behind. It's why we have reality TV. It's why we have BLM.
He's just doing the exact opposite of what we should be doing. Instead of trying to replace the population with hard workers, we should simply punish parasites. The culture will correct itself once it's not convenient to be a useless piece of shit any more.
We would be a lot better off trying to get Japs to come here, if we're going to do the immigration thing at all (we shouldn't). But then one would have to ask, why the hell would Japanese men even want to come here?
I partially agree, but you also need to factor in the moral restraints of Indians (or lack thereof). If you're working hard to cheat then are you really working?
While it's not great, I understand the decision making. If your placing 201 in a class of 3,000 for your villages computer class and only the top 10 will get to go to the capital for a chance to compete for a HB-1 you realistically have 0 chance. It's not that your dumb, it's just that your in the opposite of the dunning kruger effect. Your good enough enough to be able to survey the landscape and see how far you've gotten and correctly assess that it's all for 0.
But the moral (or lack theoreof) fibre of the cultures matter, your right. And that doesn't happen overnight.
I don't think the sheer numbers are the ultimate reason for the difference in values. Every American is basically faced with the same question of ratios vis-a-vis going to Harvard and yet cheating isn't normalized. The phenomenon might have more to do with the inadequate opportunities for a decently intelligent Indian and that itself is because they rely on central institutions to give them opportunities instead of creating them themselves.
The difference is the gulf between the top and average and the bottom.
In America the average is pretty damn good, a pretty big jump from the bottom, and not terribly below the top.
In India, the bottom is living in shit. The middle is living in only the shit of people know, the above average is having a shit free room of your shit house, and the very top is average for Americans.
400 words to say: "The historical competitiveness of 1st gen American immigrants comes from growing up without the constant subversive media influence."
He's not technically wrong, but takes away a very wrong lesson. The solution is fixing America's culture. Not importing people whose descendants are going to fall victim to the same media and education flaws malice. Besides, that won't even work anymore. The Internet is has created a conduit to spread the same rot to culture worldwide. Growing up without access to a TV isn't the filter it was even a few years ago.
Issue needs to be addressed at its source. Not covering up the symptoms.
He's baiting the conversation, reading that this is bait.
It's drawing attention not just to H1B but education system, the cultural influence of left leaning media for decades in the West, this is designed to take all that energy that some in the media and online are using to try and cause a split and infighting in Trump's administration before it's even in office and highlight just how fucked the left made the American pursuit of improving themselves.
It feels like a legitimate concern is being artificially boosted to cause a rift in the incoming administration.
When even Asmon is pointing out that the left are fanning flames with actual disinformation, reading this from Vivek seems to be less of a defence than a redirect.
That's fine but we need to ensure it's loud for Trump to hear but not to damage us long term.
The ONE thing the establishment would love to kill off before it starts is DOGE, it's why we have so much 'President Elon' being posted by leftists as they WANT to cause a rift that aborts it before it can start it's work.
You know, I went over to the Donald, see what their take is, guess what?
They're saying Elon is wrong about this but he's not in charge of immigration so doesn't matter as much and identified that this issue is an attempt to divide the Trump administration.
Sometimes it's best to look at the bigger issue than just hyper focus on ONE thing.
The attempt to divide the administration is coming from Elon and Vivek. MAGA wants immigration stopped. Anyone opposed to stopping it is not MAGA and will not be tolerated. If Musk and Vivek think they can convince the base to support their own replacement, they will find out just how pissed off we are.
We don't change our principles to cover for the behavior of politicians on our "team". That's what Democrats do. If ours are wrong, we oppose them on it.
They seem to recognise that just saying 'that's why they are in an advisory only position for efficency'
It's like RFK Jr, economic and guns they disagree heavily with him but for health topics only, they're happy he's there.
"No goy videshi, the advisors advocating for your replacement to the king isn't the biggest issue. Please saar, do the needful and stop talking about it."
Immigration is the only thing. If someone fails this “purity test”, then they need to be kicked out. Because we have no nation at all if we have replacement immigration. At that point, let the leftists have it.
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That's not a fair summation of what he said, mostly it's a cultural critique against American culture, but it can still be kept up. Source is the link. It's a hyperbolic interpretation for satire.
Every single Indian H1B in America represents a salary and a house that a middle-class American family has been deprived of.
Don't come to me with the "but we need their genius talent" bullshit.
They're just coders.
And they're not very good, even if they really are coders. It's an open secret with Indian immigration that a huge portion of them just bought their degrees and certifications. I don't mean bought their way into the school, I mean literally just bought the diploma. They figure out what certificates and paperwork they need to get into the US, buy said paperwork from 'universities' in India that only exist to print legal fake diplomas, and then come here and take a job from an American. Once they know what the job is, they'll spend a few weeks doing a crash course in the bare basics and jargon so they can sound like they belong, while any real work assigned to them they just go online to get AI or Chinamen to write for them and send it in as their own. And once they get enough of them into those jobs, they all cover for each other.
And this is how technological societies collapse.
This is the answer to the Fermi paradox, I think.
Maybe every technological species gets cursed with its equivalent of pakijeets and niggers, high-breeding devil-heads.
Someone ought to remind Muskrat that corpos like himi LOVE downsizing, when he starts screeching about "low birth rates" (which I believe is just a lie, "climate change for the human-worshiping right). I remember when targets like him would tell us how wonderful and great for the economy downsizing is as they handed out the pink slips.
We definitely have low native birth rates if you discount the basketball welfare tribe. But that's not a problem immigration solves.
So if they were being honest, it's the WHITE birth rate that's dropped. Not the HUMAN birth rate ....
Irresponsible breeders coughing out incestuous retards. by the billion is great if you love a population of livestock, II iguess. Like the dude in Greek mythology who was fine with replacing his own people with ants.
Turns out when you force the majority group of people who provide a net benefit and output to pay for leeches, they have fewer resources to have children.
Totally shocking result.
No. The poorest demos have the most kids. Feminism is what collapses birth rates.
You are ignoring the impact of welfare. They have the most kids because of welfare. Who pays for welfare? Taxpayers.
Are you ascribing financially literate family planning to people who are on welfare? lol
Feminism is what kills birthrates. If you give women the freedom to piss away their fertile years riding the carousel and girlbossing, your birthrate will collapse. That’s why the only nations with healthy birthrates are so “oppressive” aka religious and/or primitive.
Every Indian manager REFUSES to hire non- indian employees.
To add to this, O-1 immigration (the genius standard) is already uncapped. Vivek and Elon have not a leg to stand on.
There should, absolute maximum, be a single-digit quota there. I'd put it at three at most.
I'd rather it be zero--fix your own damn country.
But I could allow as much as three as long as they make an effort to leave their old culture behind and assimilate--and if they don't, back they go.
Or make minimum salary a million a year, indexed to inflation. Not “prevailing market rate”, but 10x that rate.
O-1 is essentially arts and athletes, and there’s way more than 3 foreign athletes in the US
They're not talented, and they are for damn certain not geniuses. Please sair do the needful.
They aren't even talent. They just lie about everything and ingratiate themselves so they can import even more Indians.
The more I think about how Vivek said American culture is "inferior" to country that lacks indoor plumbing and has a horrific rape problem, the angrier I get.
They have indoor plumbing.
They not only refuse to use it, they seek and destroy it.
Don't worry, the link's as worksafe as you can make it with this subject matter.
I was hoping for a reference to the child-stealing toilet witches.
He's delusional, because India knows a culture of corruption and nepotism and he's trying to import this culture to the USA.
They're also hyper-chauvinistic about their country and culture. It's doubtful they'll champion the interests of the USA when push comes to shove.
This can't be anything other than latent anti-white hatred - the acknowledgement that America has cultural problems for its professional underachievement, but that they all happen to be traceable to white pop-cultural references from the 90s, which happens to be the last generational memory of a high trust, good-natured society... and the only mention of non-white culture is about the heroic immigrant families who RESISTED the poisonous mediocrity culture of their host nation at this time, enabling them to excel over whites! Incredible.
I think any brown person who snuck into a white society when the going was good and wants to continue living in it needs to shut their fucking mouth for a few years while watching out for that pendulum swing, how about that.
Also Whiplash fucking sucked, fuck that movie and fuck jazz.
Whiplash was awesome. If you've ever played at that level--or even close to that level--a lot in that movie resonates. Plus, JK Simmons is awesome in everything he does.
it's a movie about the talentless director's bad memories in middle school, it has nothing whatsoever to do with college level education
That’s just, like, your opinion man. That’s fine if you don’t like it, but “talentless” is hard to back up, and it was expanded from highschool jazz band experiences, not middle school.
he was talentless at the instrument he tried to play
Ramaswamy has always been a fraud.
He did a massive rug pull with his Roivant technology company where he lied about an Alzheimer's drug that never came to market.
Ramaswamy wants to flood the country with cheap labor for his profit.
He was never MAGA or America first.
His mask has finally dropped and everyone should agree now that he should never be even considered for even a House seat let alone the Presidency.
We need to be ok saying we don't want them here even if it makes us racist. They don't look American, they don't act American, and they will never be American.
100%. As long as white people respond to accusations of racism with deference and charity, we cannot defend ourselves.
Of course the Pajeet wants to import more of his fellow street shitters.
My number one concern about Trump is that he's packing the administration with jeets who are going to fly other jeets in by the millions to replace Americans.
I am very afraid this is going to be Americans version of what the Tories did to the UK.
I actually read his post and he's not wrong in what he says. American's aren't hungry in the way someone who's starving is.
What he overlooks is that a country with a crazy work culture (Like India) doesn't solve is the actual inherent competence. I can work as hard as I want but I'll never play in the NBA. You just can't outwork an 80 IQ, but you can cheat and buy fake credentials.
He's saying what we've all been saying for decades: American culture celebrates mediocrity and midwittery. It's why we have affirmative action. It's why we have no child left behind. It's why we have reality TV. It's why we have BLM.
He's just doing the exact opposite of what we should be doing. Instead of trying to replace the population with hard workers, we should simply punish parasites. The culture will correct itself once it's not convenient to be a useless piece of shit any more.
"People responding to incentives" remains undefeated all through history.
We would be a lot better off trying to get Japs to come here, if we're going to do the immigration thing at all (we shouldn't). But then one would have to ask, why the hell would Japanese men even want to come here?
I partially agree, but you also need to factor in the moral restraints of Indians (or lack thereof). If you're working hard to cheat then are you really working?
While it's not great, I understand the decision making. If your placing 201 in a class of 3,000 for your villages computer class and only the top 10 will get to go to the capital for a chance to compete for a HB-1 you realistically have 0 chance. It's not that your dumb, it's just that your in the opposite of the dunning kruger effect. Your good enough enough to be able to survey the landscape and see how far you've gotten and correctly assess that it's all for 0. But the moral (or lack theoreof) fibre of the cultures matter, your right. And that doesn't happen overnight.
I don't think the sheer numbers are the ultimate reason for the difference in values. Every American is basically faced with the same question of ratios vis-a-vis going to Harvard and yet cheating isn't normalized. The phenomenon might have more to do with the inadequate opportunities for a decently intelligent Indian and that itself is because they rely on central institutions to give them opportunities instead of creating them themselves.
The difference is the gulf between the top and average and the bottom.
In America the average is pretty damn good, a pretty big jump from the bottom, and not terribly below the top.
In India, the bottom is living in shit. The middle is living in only the shit of people know, the above average is having a shit free room of your shit house, and the very top is average for Americans.
Yeah you're going to cheat.
Vivek Ramasawmpy made his money via fraud by way of nepotism (claiming breakthrough drug by using his mother to get it approved).
He defrauded American investors of $2bn.
He is representative of the type of people he wants to import by the millions, a grifting thief.
At least they have a sense of humor
400 words to say: "The historical competitiveness of 1st gen American immigrants comes from growing up without the constant subversive media influence."
He's not technically wrong, but takes away a very wrong lesson. The solution is fixing America's culture. Not importing people whose descendants are going to fall victim to the same media and education
flawsmalice. Besides, that won't even work anymore. The Internet is has created a conduit to spread the same rot to culture worldwide. Growing up without access to a TV isn't the filter it was even a few years ago.Issue needs to be addressed at its source. Not covering up the symptoms.
A lot of what he says is correct, it just is a bit reductive, and then he draws the wrong conclusions from what he says.
He's a smart guy but he really, really stepped in it on this one.
He's baiting the conversation, reading that this is bait.
It's drawing attention not just to H1B but education system, the cultural influence of left leaning media for decades in the West, this is designed to take all that energy that some in the media and online are using to try and cause a split and infighting in Trump's administration before it's even in office and highlight just how fucked the left made the American pursuit of improving themselves.
Do you actually believe this or just want to believe this?
It does read like copium.
It feels like a legitimate concern is being artificially boosted to cause a rift in the incoming administration.
When even Asmon is pointing out that the left are fanning flames with actual disinformation, reading this from Vivek seems to be less of a defence than a redirect.
God you even sound Pajeet!
God you even SOUND like a leftist!
An overreaction to this issue is fine. It needs to be abundantly clear that the MAGA voting base opposes an en masse pajeet job-stealing invasion.
Trump reacts to strong reactions. If the pajeet question was met with a lukewarm response, he'd ignore it.
That's fine but we need to ensure it's loud for Trump to hear but not to damage us long term.
The ONE thing the establishment would love to kill off before it starts is DOGE, it's why we have so much 'President Elon' being posted by leftists as they WANT to cause a rift that aborts it before it can start it's work.
Don't blame the establishment for what Elon and Vivek said. Nancy Pelosi didn't order them to make retarded takes.
Lol. Has the "can someone please think of the optics?" approach ever served us? No, growing a spine did. People need to stand their ground
Oh yeah, it’s all a ploy and we’re falling for it.
The fuck outta here.
You know, I went over to the Donald, see what their take is, guess what?
They're saying Elon is wrong about this but he's not in charge of immigration so doesn't matter as much and identified that this issue is an attempt to divide the Trump administration.
Sometimes it's best to look at the bigger issue than just hyper focus on ONE thing.
The attempt to divide the administration is coming from Elon and Vivek. MAGA wants immigration stopped. Anyone opposed to stopping it is not MAGA and will not be tolerated. If Musk and Vivek think they can convince the base to support their own replacement, they will find out just how pissed off we are.
We don't change our principles to cover for the behavior of politicians on our "team". That's what Democrats do. If ours are wrong, we oppose them on it.
They seem to recognise that just saying 'that's why they are in an advisory only position for efficency' It's like RFK Jr, economic and guns they disagree heavily with him but for health topics only, they're happy he's there.
"No
goyvideshi, the advisors advocating for your replacement to the king isn't the biggest issue. Please saar, do the needful and stop talking about it."I went over there too and I know you’re full of shit. I read English, not Hindi.
I thought you were Pakistani, would explain a lot..
Immigration is the only thing. If someone fails this “purity test”, then they need to be kicked out. Because we have no nation at all if we have replacement immigration. At that point, let the leftists have it.
Patriots are in control!