Nah it's just not commonly taught is all. Pinochet was such a success story against socialism that modern education likes to pretend it never happened.
Problems caused by liberal policies cannot be fixed by the people who created, advocated and implemented them.
And yet a bunch of the people here and sprinkled across our side are "former Leftists" who are totally for supporting detransers and other former Liberal advocates if they say "Sowwy, I was twicked" or "DAE JEWS?!"
Trump was a former Democrat. Hitler wasn't always antisemitic in fact he used to defend Jews from antisemites. People can change believe it or not. It's just matter of judging if the change is real or not. In the case of Starmar it's obvious that it isn't and he's just saying stuff to save his own butt. And his wife is Jewish too.
It's just matter of judging if the change is real or not.
I agree entirely.
But I do not believe people make giant, dramatic changes that easily. They say they do, but its just painting themselves a new color. The personality traits or defects that made them X way before are still there, and likely unaddressed, and are just now being channeled in a new direction. And they will just as easily change with the next tide too.
AA has stuck around so long because it understands that change is a lifelong process of daily work. You can't just declare yourself sober and suddenly you are. Under the newfound 40 church services a month and peppy attitude you are the same person waiting to snap back.
Which is why people who "change" once the tide does, consequences become obvious and imminent, and they've already contributed to the damage immensely are just showing themselves to be cowards or fools trying to dodge responsibility and cozy up to a new side.
There's a big fucking difference between changing paths and being the fucking Prime Minister in charge. He's not a minor person with a new perspective, he's a national leader. That's a very important distinction, and should bring absolute caution to the situation, especially when it's people like Starmer that's STILL fucking up his own country. Or are we forgetting the farmer strikes and the reason for them?
Adamrises is right. He's parroting one fucking point and suddenly he's got some merit? I fully agree that there should be a way back for people, but Starmer isn't trying to change, he's trying to save his ass.
I don't disagree. I just don't understand why bring it up in this specific instance when it's clear he's doing this solely to try and save his own ass while still continuing to do the same fucked up shit elsewhere. He's not ceasing to be part of the problem, he's barely even putting on a paper printout mask to hide his true nature.
Because in that instance I wasn't talking about Starmer. I sincerely hope they string him up on the statue of Nelson. I'd pay fifty dollars to push him down a flight of stairs and laugh while doing it.
But there are a fair few ex liberals who actually deserve credit for abandoning the left, even some high profile people. Musk being a topical example.
KIA2 is a just an extension of ConPro at this point, I'm thinking of just staying at the Donald where topics are not about fellating jap or hitler cock and actually pro-west and anti everyone else. At least the gaming community still mostly sticks to just gaming topics.
I wouldn't go that far. A lot of us came directly from KIA to KIA2 to Win-KIA2 organically, and I don't doubt a lot of the more meme oriented people found legit overlap in interests with places like ConPro.
It would be hypocritical of me to say it, because KIA1 said the same thing about T_D way back and wanted to ban all of us for trying to actually care about something besides gaming.
He's currently banned for 8 days, as of 2 days ago, and makes up literally all 25 entries of moderation from pages 3 to 13 in the last 2 days. So that's 233 entries.
Threads like that make me lean towards maybe that place is a shithole that exists just for people who are too much of a sperg to be welcome anywhere else. Not for their beliefs, but just because they are that insufferable.
Because both him and Imp are the exact type of retards that you can agree with them and they find something to complain about in what you said because you aren't 400% extreme enough for them.
makes up literally all 25 entries of moderation from pages 3 to 13 in the last 2 days. So that's 233 entries.
Probably because he went on a tear about this supposed secret Japanese book about the Jewish evils and was going off constantly about it. I imagine that Dom hit him for all of them at once as he did his weekly pass of modding.
I'm a little out of the loop on UK politics, but isn't Starmer the guy who's been openly pro-immigration up until now? And now he's blaming it on Brexit and the conservative party?
I won't defend the Cons because they're anything but conservative. However, this is not something that started with them. The entire UK establishment is to blame. Not that it does any good to point fingers. None of them will actually do anything to reverse the situation in a meaningful way.
Leftists blaming Brexit for mass immigration is like a husband blaming a wife for making him hit her. “Look what you made me do”. If voters had just gone along with the steady replacement immigration of the EU, everything would be rosy. But the peasants had to vote for Brexit, so the globalists had to punish them with even more and faster replacement immigration. Gotta make an example for all the other EU “wives” who might think about “leaving”.
Putting aside the obvious "who is they" crap that the myopic love to focus on, what does Starmer mean by "they"? He's part of it. You don't get to pull the shit he has pulled and then pretend like he isn't part of the same club. You want credibility Starmer? Name names. Lay clear blame. Stop with the fucking obfuscation in paltry sentiments. Start putting heads on spikes, either proverbially or however you want to take that.
Well, isn't this nice? If it weren't him saying it, if it was one of his citizens writing that on X, they would be sent to prison for hate speech and blasphemy.
Nope. They've gone too far to wimp out now. They're probably terrified that if they don't keep up the flood and destabilization their heads will be on pikes.
I'm guessing Starmer is off the reservation and is in all kinds of trouble for saying the quiet part out loud to try and save his skin. They're going to replace him with someone more compliant.
The ONLY good thing about this half-hearted acknowledgement of an unmitigated disaster is this sentence: 'This happened by design, not accident'.
I now have ammunition every time some unthinking normie or semi-engaged midwit responds to my immigration concerns with 'Well, that's just how things are these days' or 'Our governments are doing their best to respond to the immigration "crisis"'.
No, the unprecedented movement of entire populations into the West during peace time is not 'natural' or 'the inevitable result of a more interconnected world', or even a 'crisis'. It is engineered. It is a DELIBERATE policy decision pursued by individuals who WANT it to happen. Any moronic communist or self-proclaimed labour activist needs to be beaten over the head with this whenever it comes up in conversation. Why are you, o 'friend of the working man', supporting the wishes of the biggest monied interests on earth?
In it, he claims the purpose of the migration has been economic (ignoring the fact that they've been running the same asylum scam as the rest of the West), and doesn't promise to deport even one immigrant.
Spoiler, no. Problems caused by liberal policies cannot be fixed by the people who created, advocated and implemented them.
It takes a Pinochet to undo the damage of an Allende.
Your comment made me read up on some Pinochet and Allende. I guess I'm an idiot because I thought Pinochet was in the 50s and 60s.
Nah it's just not commonly taught is all. Pinochet was such a success story against socialism that modern education likes to pretend it never happened.
And yet a bunch of the people here and sprinkled across our side are "former Leftists" who are totally for supporting detransers and other former Liberal advocates if they say "Sowwy, I was twicked" or "DAE JEWS?!"
They also get super mad if you point this out.
Trump was a former Democrat. Hitler wasn't always antisemitic in fact he used to defend Jews from antisemites. People can change believe it or not. It's just matter of judging if the change is real or not. In the case of Starmar it's obvious that it isn't and he's just saying stuff to save his own butt. And his wife is Jewish too.
I agree entirely.
But I do not believe people make giant, dramatic changes that easily. They say they do, but its just painting themselves a new color. The personality traits or defects that made them X way before are still there, and likely unaddressed, and are just now being channeled in a new direction. And they will just as easily change with the next tide too.
AA has stuck around so long because it understands that change is a lifelong process of daily work. You can't just declare yourself sober and suddenly you are. Under the newfound 40 church services a month and peppy attitude you are the same person waiting to snap back.
Which is why people who "change" once the tide does, consequences become obvious and imminent, and they've already contributed to the damage immensely are just showing themselves to be cowards or fools trying to dodge responsibility and cozy up to a new side.
There is some merit in ceasing to be part of the problem.
There's a big fucking difference between changing paths and being the fucking Prime Minister in charge. He's not a minor person with a new perspective, he's a national leader. That's a very important distinction, and should bring absolute caution to the situation, especially when it's people like Starmer that's STILL fucking up his own country. Or are we forgetting the farmer strikes and the reason for them?
Adamrises is right. He's parroting one fucking point and suddenly he's got some merit? I fully agree that there should be a way back for people, but Starmer isn't trying to change, he's trying to save his ass.
I agree. He and most of Labor should be, ahem, Pinochet'ed. Along with a large chunk of their voters.
But it is possible to stop being part of the problem on an individual level.
I don't disagree. I just don't understand why bring it up in this specific instance when it's clear he's doing this solely to try and save his own ass while still continuing to do the same fucked up shit elsewhere. He's not ceasing to be part of the problem, he's barely even putting on a paper printout mask to hide his true nature.
Because in that instance I wasn't talking about Starmer. I sincerely hope they string him up on the statue of Nelson. I'd pay fifty dollars to push him down a flight of stairs and laugh while doing it.
But there are a fair few ex liberals who actually deserve credit for abandoning the left, even some high profile people. Musk being a topical example.
That I will agree on.
KIA2 is a just an extension of ConPro at this point, I'm thinking of just staying at the Donald where topics are not about fellating jap or hitler cock and actually pro-west and anti everyone else. At least the gaming community still mostly sticks to just gaming topics.
I wouldn't go that far. A lot of us came directly from KIA to KIA2 to Win-KIA2 organically, and I don't doubt a lot of the more meme oriented people found legit overlap in interests with places like ConPro.
It would be hypocritical of me to say it, because KIA1 said the same thing about T_D way back and wanted to ban all of us for trying to actually care about something besides gaming.
Well blocking yosi and ger111 will probably clear out a lot of the wasted space and maybe free up the channel for more thread variety to show up.
He's currently banned for 8 days, as of 2 days ago, and makes up literally all 25 entries of moderation from pages 3 to 13 in the last 2 days. So that's 233 entries.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/logs
Start at the bottom of page 2 as of this post timestamp.
He then went and whined about it on Imp's favourite board.
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/199hzLmW5B/i-got-banned-on-kia2-for-disinf/c
Threads like that make me lean towards maybe that place is a shithole that exists just for people who are too much of a sperg to be welcome anywhere else. Not for their beliefs, but just because they are that insufferable.
Because both him and Imp are the exact type of retards that you can agree with them and they find something to complain about in what you said because you aren't 400% extreme enough for them.
Probably because he went on a tear about this supposed secret Japanese book about the Jewish evils and was going off constantly about it. I imagine that Dom hit him for all of them at once as he did his weekly pass of modding.
Meme time: Actually 230 or so of the entries are Dom approving comments by ger111, so I have no idea what was going on.
lol, wow. Yeah I guess blocking those two was the right idea. Their posts are all the same theme. ConPro is such a joke.
Angela merkal also admitted that mass immigration destroyed Germany but she continued doing it anyways. They won't change their policies
Merkel said she did everything right even when it comes to mass migration just a few days ago. She also criticized those who want to limit the influx.
They know it's destroying their countries and they do it anyway because that's the point.
I'm a little out of the loop on UK politics, but isn't Starmer the guy who's been openly pro-immigration up until now? And now he's blaming it on Brexit and the conservative party?
Starmer was recently arresting people criticizing his mass migration policies. (including pre trial detention to force them to plead guilty)
Yeah he's a snake of the highest order.
I won't defend the Cons because they're anything but conservative. However, this is not something that started with them. The entire UK establishment is to blame. Not that it does any good to point fingers. None of them will actually do anything to reverse the situation in a meaningful way.
Someone’s trying to weasel his way out of a well-deserved helicopter ride
NO REFUNDS!
It's enough to make me want to learn to fly rotary wing...
It’s never too late to learn a new skill
Blames Brexit. Hahahahaha.
Globalists behind the scene, helped by useful idiots like Labour, IGNORED the vote of the people and cranked-up mass-migration to PUNISH the British.
Leftists blaming Brexit for mass immigration is like a husband blaming a wife for making him hit her. “Look what you made me do”. If voters had just gone along with the steady replacement immigration of the EU, everything would be rosy. But the peasants had to vote for Brexit, so the globalists had to punish them with even more and faster replacement immigration. Gotta make an example for all the other EU “wives” who might think about “leaving”.
"They pretended it wasn't happening"
"They"
Putting aside the obvious "who is they" crap that the myopic love to focus on, what does Starmer mean by "they"? He's part of it. You don't get to pull the shit he has pulled and then pretend like he isn't part of the same club. You want credibility Starmer? Name names. Lay clear blame. Stop with the fucking obfuscation in paltry sentiments. Start putting heads on spikes, either proverbially or however you want to take that.
Well, isn't this nice? If it weren't him saying it, if it was one of his citizens writing that on X, they would be sent to prison for hate speech and blasphemy.
Nope. They've gone too far to wimp out now. They're probably terrified that if they don't keep up the flood and destabilization their heads will be on pikes.
I'm guessing Starmer is off the reservation and is in all kinds of trouble for saying the quiet part out loud to try and save his skin. They're going to replace him with someone more compliant.
They've realized that those they've invited in will put their heads on pikes anyways.
So, what happens to the pajeet and the other traitors???
It's just throwing some coins to the crowd hoping to salvage his terrible popularity. Other than a few token gestures I doubt he'll do anything.
The German chancellor also did that. He announced "large scale deportations" and all kinds of stuff. Nothing happened. He never actually did anything.
The ONLY good thing about this half-hearted acknowledgement of an unmitigated disaster is this sentence: 'This happened by design, not accident'.
I now have ammunition every time some unthinking normie or semi-engaged midwit responds to my immigration concerns with 'Well, that's just how things are these days' or 'Our governments are doing their best to respond to the immigration "crisis"'.
No, the unprecedented movement of entire populations into the West during peace time is not 'natural' or 'the inevitable result of a more interconnected world', or even a 'crisis'. It is engineered. It is a DELIBERATE policy decision pursued by individuals who WANT it to happen. Any moronic communist or self-proclaimed labour activist needs to be beaten over the head with this whenever it comes up in conversation. Why are you, o 'friend of the working man', supporting the wishes of the biggest monied interests on earth?
He might well slash immigration in half and then endlessly brag about it but there would still be half a million jeets coming in each year
We don't need limp-wristed modest immigration reductions. That only slows-down the death of Europeans.
We need large-scale Remigration. They have to go back.
Algeria expelled the Europeans. Europe can expell the invaders.
This is the full speech in written form.
He blames the Tories, which is correct, but he won't do much about it.
What's with all the "[Political content redacted]?"
Edit: I found an unredacted, complete video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_fPObewbf6Q
In it, he claims the purpose of the migration has been economic (ignoring the fact that they've been running the same asylum scam as the rest of the West), and doesn't promise to deport even one immigrant.
No, because he's a retarded moron leftist cultist.
Keir Starmar literally built his career on getting off rapists and murderers. He is a leftist to the core.
This man will do nothing to fix the problem.
lol
The left is what caused the problems and want to destroy the west. Why would they stop doing what they're doing?