There's a big fucking difference between changing paths and being the fucking Prime Minister in charge. He's not a minor person with a new perspective, he's a national leader. That's a very important distinction, and should bring absolute caution to the situation, especially when it's people like Starmer that's STILL fucking up his own country. Or are we forgetting the farmer strikes and the reason for them?
Adamrises is right. He's parroting one fucking point and suddenly he's got some merit? I fully agree that there should be a way back for people, but Starmer isn't trying to change, he's trying to save his ass.
I don't disagree. I just don't understand why bring it up in this specific instance when it's clear he's doing this solely to try and save his own ass while still continuing to do the same fucked up shit elsewhere. He's not ceasing to be part of the problem, he's barely even putting on a paper printout mask to hide his true nature.
Because in that instance I wasn't talking about Starmer. I sincerely hope they string him up on the statue of Nelson. I'd pay fifty dollars to push him down a flight of stairs and laugh while doing it.
But there are a fair few ex liberals who actually deserve credit for abandoning the left, even some high profile people. Musk being a topical example.
There is some merit in ceasing to be part of the problem.
There's a big fucking difference between changing paths and being the fucking Prime Minister in charge. He's not a minor person with a new perspective, he's a national leader. That's a very important distinction, and should bring absolute caution to the situation, especially when it's people like Starmer that's STILL fucking up his own country. Or are we forgetting the farmer strikes and the reason for them?
Adamrises is right. He's parroting one fucking point and suddenly he's got some merit? I fully agree that there should be a way back for people, but Starmer isn't trying to change, he's trying to save his ass.
I agree. He and most of Labor should be, ahem, Pinochet'ed. Along with a large chunk of their voters.
But it is possible to stop being part of the problem on an individual level.
I don't disagree. I just don't understand why bring it up in this specific instance when it's clear he's doing this solely to try and save his own ass while still continuing to do the same fucked up shit elsewhere. He's not ceasing to be part of the problem, he's barely even putting on a paper printout mask to hide his true nature.
Because in that instance I wasn't talking about Starmer. I sincerely hope they string him up on the statue of Nelson. I'd pay fifty dollars to push him down a flight of stairs and laugh while doing it.
But there are a fair few ex liberals who actually deserve credit for abandoning the left, even some high profile people. Musk being a topical example.
That I will agree on.