Everyones favorite bad takes machine is gone. Account deleted.
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I hope it was for a good reason like maintaining opsec.
It's been gone for a while now. Someone mentioned it over a week ago in a thread.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/199O1gAeG7/x/c/4ZFB3HuwVaq
Aye, I noticed about 2-3 weeks ago as well when I was curious why he wasn't chiming in on the GoDot stuff.
I just assumed he deleted it to cover his tracks because he was paranoid about the UK government or something like that.
Shows what I know.
The community manager looks like a Sweet Baby Inc crossover... So, there's that.
Hopefully he takes this opportunity to go outside for a while.
Maybe he finally saved up and moved to south America
We lost lethn. I can only imagine what happened to him. I'm not happy he was subjected to the full might of UK insanity. Rip
I'm going to ascribe to the theory that he did it after Dom finally unstickied his self-fellating post about his video game (that he once described as the thing that will save the industry) after years of literally no one giving a shit about it and him posting updates to nobody.
I'll never forget the one and only time he responded to me shit talking him to his face was to call me toxic. Made me feel special.
I don't think that was it. At least it wasn't communicated to me.
Even if it was, would you notice a communication between the 9000 reports and 100s of messages that build up between each of your hiatuses?
I jest, I just find the idea funny because it was noticing one that lead me to notice the other. It was posted elsewhere here the "actual" final straw.
what happened?
See above, he's retarded.
Thank you for the update. I was wondering what happened to him. I miss his observations about British life. I hope he comes back.
You're missing nothing in that case considering how retarded his takes on things are.
I remember that he predicted the UK Southport riots would start up again by the weekend after Starmer went full fascist and started expedited show trials for tweets and loitering.
I recall his rationale was that the based UK boys couldn't riot during the week because they had jobs.
What kind of game was he trying to make anyway
I don't think he ever actually really said.
I think he gave enough clues that you could ultimately piece it together from multiple comments. Without access to his comment history it's a bit tough to remember accurately, especially given how often he'd post shower thoughts about a wide range of different kinds of games.
Although I do distinctly remember him posting multiple threads, talking about inventory UI and itemization stuff, so probably an RPG of some sort.
u/Theacefospades, u/Ender910
Archive of his project thread.
It was a god-sim game. Think Black & White, and the like.
Ah, right. I knew it might be at least RPG adjacent somehow. Even as a pseudo game developer myself, seeing his Rumble channel for the first time, it looks a little sad.
Huh, I was actually under the impression people gave a shit about his game, what with it being sticked. Seeing just a bunch of updates of himself with nobody asking about it is kind of sad.
I was initially interested from a "a support your own" perspective.
But he was such a tool all the time I don't think he was all that different from the "classic" developers that I hate.
Like a theater kid or something.
To be fair to him most of the stickies here get ignored almost entirely. Like, most of them barely get any traction and I think people just reflexively skip past them because of how long they sit there without changing (and so you never notice a new one).
Yeah. I actually did try to keep track of it, although I'm not sure I ever commented here on KiA about it. But I did check in from time to time.
There was some initial interest, but it didn't get much past that. It would have been nice if it had gotten more attention, but updates were rather slow and very small, so I suppose that was part of the disinterest. But I certainly wish him the best on his project, and wish he hadn't thrown a massive fit and nuked his account and everything here.
Wow that's a huge shame. Dude could go full retard sometimes but I liked having him around.
I first ran into him on a very small site called discussions.app
After that imploded and I spent more time here I was pleasantly surprised to see him show up after a while. Sad to see him go.
Womp? Womp.
I never interacted with him here specifically because he reminded me of a guy I used to be friends with in high school. The similarities in the way they both spoke were uncanny. Maybe they're manifestations of a particular archetype of British nerd? The guy I knew was a huge nerd, like me and the rest of our friends, but I think he was uncomfortable with it, so he always had to have 'figured out' whatever we were talking about, and had a habit of bringing conversation around to himself.
For the guy I knew, it was a sign of insecurity and autism. I suspect it's probably the same for our ex-resident game dev.
Anyway, he brought some life to this place so I'm not happy he's gone. Hope his game turns out well.
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Damn, and I was going to rub our victory in his face.
What were his 'bad takes'? Name sounds vaguely familiar but would ring a bell if he had some bad takes.
He was an expert in every topic that existed, and made sure to open with it.
Talking about planes? He spent 190000 hours in Microsoft Flight Sim and knew everything needed. Video games? He was developing one that was going to save the industry (thanks Dom for feeding his ego by stickying it for years). Politics? Only his enlightened "The Right Wing is worse than the Left because they annoy me more" take was allowed.
He was also a big believer in that a different .win community (ConPro I think) was going around and downvoting/trolling him anytime he got disagreement. Because only that could be the reason anyone disagreed with him on anything.
To paraphrase Taleb, the worst of the producers is superior to the best of the critics.
Never saw that. However, now that I remember who he was, he did get annoyed by me because I argued that women aren't as bad as he claimed they were.
Arrogance may be off-putting, but then again, so is being stubborn as a mule, don't you think?
Sounds like the Imp, but I've witnessed that firsthand.
And no one would be a critic if it wasn't constantly pushed in our face despite the clear lack of anyone wanting to be involved with it. Such as his regular essay posts about how he discovered basic game mechanics and the philosophy behind them, and how this was going to make his product the greatest thing ever.
Or do you turn off ad block to make sure to support Producers of Product at all times?
Calling it "arrogance" is to call the Woke "a little racist towards whites." He claimed to be an expert on all topics that ever came up, which is a far more annoying personality than a random guy with an ego.
Also the entire reason anyone even remembered his name to become "a thing" was because he spent the first months here going "this is why I hate the Right and think they are worse than the Left." Its something he dropped later likely because of how often people mocked him for it. But it was also a while ago.
I did double take writing it because I thought I might be confusing the two, but the two just have a weirdly large amount of similarities. If Imp was capable of containing his spaghetti whatsoever I'd even suspect it was an alt.
Yeah and it's funny, This place and Conpro have a fair bit of overlap, I'm an example of this, it doesn't mean we're brigading lmao
If you never saw that then you never talked to him, because he could find a way to bring it up while talking about literally anything. I once saw him seque into "dae le right wing is the problem" while talking about frickin used cars.
Lethn rarely missed an opportunity to criticize the right in any thread that was critical of the left - which is most of the threads here - and I rarely failed to point out thos compulsion. So you’re either blind or dishonest, and we know which one it is.
No.
Everyone who doesn't agree with current_horror is either blind or dishonest.
This is easily refuted by the existence of retarded lefty localizers.
The obvious one that comes to mind is the one u/Kienan highlighted here because a) this is probably what made lethn delete his account and b) Kienan does a good job of explaining exactly why lethn attracts haters. Lethn had a habit of getting hung up on the most arbitrary things, like insisting that if someone implemented code that was effective and simple, it was still bad because it was simple. He wanted people to reinvent the wheel for every single game and asset in their game.
He would often write out long paragraphs that implied clear conclusions, then act like he said something that meant something different, then agree that what you thought he said is in fact what he meant, but also you’re misrepresenting him, and also everyone is a hater, and also those downvotes are definitely a conpro bot network and not just people annoyed with me….
On a side note, he was probably the most prolific commenter and poster here for several months, and he wrote very distinctly. You really don’t remember this guy at all?
What’s more likely?
a regular and prolific commenter has no idea who Lethn was
Antonio is a dishonest, disingenuous piece of shit
LOL @ any regular claiming to be ignorant of Lethn. Idk why Antonio acts like he's an actor in some gay medieval court drama all the time.
There's your answer.
I just don’t get why he’d bother going to bat for Lethn.
The guy also could not let things go, I never became a hater but it was exhausting trying to explain how the pc mod community functioned and how sometimes people don't want to make and sell an entire videogame and just want to mod something for their personal tastes and he physically could not understand it.
Like I just want to add some cool enchantments and spells to Skyrim not reinvent the wheel and make an entire fricking videogame.
Considering he threw a tantrum about the existence of rebinding keys, mods probably were blasphemous to his mind.
He is very inconsistent on that statement, more so that he do not understand fundamentals of dev, since he insisted the need to use libs, when pushed so only approved libs by him is ok, haha
At first, I was confusing him with another guy, but now I sort of do remember him because I had a few interactions with him. That said, while he was no fan of me [/Trump], I don't approve of giving people hate or driving them off a forum.
There are many more objectively retarded people here.
He did not get driven off the forum except in that when he said something dumb, people told him he was being dumb. The worst you could say is that this thread maybe dances on the line of being unnecessary drama, but at this point he's been gone for weeks anyway.
This thread gave me the impression that people drove him away. The kind of person to cheer someone leaving is the kind of person to do that. Of course they should say it when they think he's saying something dumb.
He was arrogant at times and tended to ramble, but I don't remember him having particularly worse takes than what I've seen from many other people. I never really understood why some people seem to hate him so passionately.
It's sort of a "gradually I began to hate him" type thing.
Any conversation with him was utterly grating. Probably most annoying was his habit of arguing superiority from agreement.
You'd say something and he'd somehow manage to agree and call you stupid for thinking it at the same time.
Because, regardless of the topic, he somehow made it about himself. Particularly if he could demonstrate some previously unrevealed expertise.
He had odd and goofy takes, not necessarily "bad" takes. And almost any discussion he was involved with managed to "somehow" circle around to trying to stroke his own ego.
Not a bad fellow overall though. Just a bit of a derp at times.
Because he seemed to have very little self awareness lol. What a character.
My favorite one was his hate-on for Speed Tree, because it was pretty clear that he didn't actually know what it did/why it was used, but he spoke with such authority on why it was bad.
That is not a bad take, that is just something with which you disagree.
A bad take is in the simplest definition one that is "misinformed." If he didn't know what it did or why it was used, but still spoke with authority on it, then it is by almost every conceivable definition a "bad take."
Oh, so you were just a fan. Makes sense. Retarded birds of a feather.
I don't care about Speed Tree either way, don't even know what it is.
What part of "didn't actually know what it did/why it was used" did you fail to understand?
The hall of fame:
https://archive.is/p3uoC
https://archive.is/S9inv
https://unscored.arete.network/c/KotakuInAction2/p/17s5fh3qVe/
https://archive.ph/Grlvm
Nothing will top that.
I had forgotten the keybinding one.
It was really such a telling thing about him, that he could take something arguably agreeable and discussable (some people are overtly obsessed with keybinding to an unreasonable level) and make everyone come together to shit on him for trying to treat it like an epic dab about his superiority moment.
Oh, man. I'd almost forgotten his massive Steam hateboner, too. He could loop anything back to how terrible Steam is.
And some of those threads are major oof.
I like when he told me I was "obsessive" in one of those linked threads for saying I prefer being able to rebind my keys. "Prefer" is clearly some obsessive language!
Also, I find the utter hatred some people have toward "tradcons" as hilarious and ridiculous. Think it's foolish? Go for it. Think they're often not as "trad" as they want to appear? Go for it. But some of these people act like "trad" is some utter affront to everything they hold dear, and the tradcons need to be genocided off the face of the planet. It just seems weird.
This sentence right here is an almost perfect summary of Lethn, actually. He misunderstands and conflated like three different things all at the same time:
"Right wing bad" because he hates tradcons, and he just proved to himself that the group he already hates is bad based on this one post, and one person's actions. And then that people disagreed with him was all because he "made them uncomfortable." And he was right and brilliant all along. It really is a perfect Lethn summary.
The more lore gets compiled in this topic in one place the more the similarities with Imp continue to add up to a point where its starting to feel too coincidental.
Did he ever give his opinion on Fortnite? That might be the deal sealer for me.
He has a burning hatred for normies, multiplayer games, and more, so I'm assuming if he has an opinion on Fortnite it's very negative. Don't think it ever came up though, at least not where I saw it.
That ends that theory then, Imp loved Fortnite until one of their political stunts flipped him.
Don't forget racing games, which is another point to disprove that they are not the same.
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Do not make posts about users.
I mean we're aware you're a faggot.
But by definition he isnt a user.
This is pretty gay, even for you. LOL.
There's no rule against making posts about users, Lethn isn't a user, and this wasn't even bullying.