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According to Hollywood, Tolkien, the author and creator of Lord of the Rings, "overlooked" something in his own works and so now hollywood is going to "fill in the gaps" (www.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by ger111 1 year ago by ger111 +107 / -0
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– Cyberguy64 50 points 1 year ago +50 / -0

The sheer, fucking, hubris of these parasites never ceases to enrage me.

You've clambered onto the shoulders of giants, just to start stomping on them to belittle them in hopes of making yourself seem bigger. What do you think is going to happen next? You're going to fucking levitate!?

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– MargarineMongoose 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

But why should they stop?

Nothing's going to happen. There's no consequences. No one's going to even deck them in the face for this profane desecration, which is the bare minimum that these people have earned by their actions.

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– BetterNameUnfound 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

This comment is going to look real silly in five months

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Hopefully!

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yeah, like I haven't heard how this is all going to burn itself out soon back in 2015...

Again, you're too stupid to be posting here so you should leave.

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– BetterNameUnfound 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'll be back to feed you your words.

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– cccpneveragain 46 points 1 year ago +46 / -0

Yeah, Tolkien couldn’t have overlooked anything. That’s one of the reasons I’m not more in to the books, they are so ridiculously over-detailed. He didn’t put trannies or black elves or whatever they want to say he overlooked in because he wasn’t a brainwashed moron.

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– Michalusmichalus 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Conlaging( creating real languages) is also way above those morons paygrade.

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– DieHeretic 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

Tolkien wrote The Silmarillion which is a total and complete history of Middle Earth encompassing every single historical event, person, war, geography, languages and mythology that exists in his books.

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– willy-willis 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Even before we get to the Silmarillion, the appendices of Return of the King are actually already meaty af. (They're also the only place where Helm's canonically-nameless daughter was mentioned in the first place.) And those appendices already blow every lore book Martin's written for ASOIAF put together out of the water, much less these current-year hacks' mangling '''''additions''''' to Middle-earth.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

So who wrote this fucking story?

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– Graphenium 32 points 1 year ago +32 / -0

Just following some links from the video:

The woman (phoebe gittins) who decided to center the story around a literally unnamed nobody, is the daughter of one of the script writers for the real LotR movies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_Boyens

Which explains how her braindead daughter both got to cameo in the old movies and somehow get one of the writer jobs for this abomination

Edit: actually it’s worse than that - mommy has “story by” and “produced by” credits on this while daughter gittens has “screenplay by” and “main character invented by”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_War_of_the_Rohirrim

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– ApexVeritas 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

The original LotR scripts had Arwen much more involved in the story. They even filmed sequences of her fighting at Helms Deep. At some point, thankfully, the idea got nixed, and they brought the character more in line with the books. Given her current girl power push, I wonder if Philippa Boyens was behind the girl boss changes to Arwen.

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– Norenia 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Aeowyn.

Or are you saying they had plans to go THAT far that I didn't realize?

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– Isolated_Patriot 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

No, he's right, it was Arwen, Elrond's Daughter.

They had this whole Xena Warrior Princess vibe going and DID actually film a lot more scenes with her all the way up to the Battle of Helms Deep (many people don't even know she is still visible in several background shots). This is why they had her save the Hobbits in the beginning, and take over Elrond's job of summoning the river, instead of being book accurate and only meeting her inside Rivendell.

I've heard two version why, one there was a leak at the time and there were enough real book fans paying attention to pitch a big fit about how much they were changing the books. Or, that Liv Tyler was so bad at acting the role, Jackson couldn't stand to see her pretend to fire one more arrow. Either way, the whole thing got dialed back, and they decided to add the weird dream sequences to keep her in the story.

I can only imagine they planned to have a whole love triangle cat fight between her and Aeowyn too.

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– Norenia 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Jesus... I'm glad Jackson decided not to go this route. Now that just begs the question as to why things went the way they did with The Hobbit.

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– Isolated_Patriot 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Hubris.

He was out to prove himself with LotR. But by the time the Hobbit was greelighted he was "mother fuckin Peter Jackson!" And everyone was guaranteed to love it.

The Tolkien Edit is actually pretty good. Though it cuts a few things I would not have, and leaves a few more than I would have. There's still quite a few scenes that can't properly be salvaged, but it's still way better than the unedited.

It's funny, LotR isn't half as good if you don't watch the extended edition, but the Hobbit must be watched in abridged form.

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– ApexVeritas 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Here's some footage and info on the changes, and reversal, of Arwen in the movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwEYORr08SQ

I remember seeing some behind the scenes stuff where Philippa Boyens betrayed her thoughts on wanting to see powerful female characters (I think it was for the Hobbit), but I'm not really motivated to find it.

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– Norenia 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

I watched a bit of this video yesterday. Only a few seconds to fill me with rage at that insinuation. YOU DON'T HATE HOLLYWOOD AND MEDIA OUTLETS ENOUGH

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– cmpunk 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Let's see here, Mr/Mrs Tolkien. Says here you left out a few key ingredients to a great story.

  1. Strong male nigger elf lead

  2. Powerful lesbian dragon couple

  3. Bumbling doofus white male troll that farts constantly

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– Smith1980 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

Please, make your own stories! Filling in the gaps most likely means the trifecta lgbt/black/feminist inclusion

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– KekistanPM 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

They know nobody will read their own stories. That's why they have to appropriate a well-known IP.

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– Smith1980 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

True, but I’d love to take over a studio and ban any crazy deviations to source material.

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– ProdigalPlaneswalker 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

True, but I’d love to take over a studio

You might have to attend a spirit cooking pizza party and let them film you doing blackmail-able things to ensure your loyalty to the cabal.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Oh yea. Forgot about that little tidbit

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– deleted 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0
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– AurelianWay 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

These girl boss movies / shows have been going on for 10 years now. This artificial trend will never end as long as DEI / ESG funding continues. Just typical propaganda at this point, keep repeating the same tropes every time & hope the normies will just consume & accept it as normal.

How much money does Blackrock have. Are there still going to be these girl boss stories in the next 10 years?

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

No. It's BIPOC rules that's required to be eligible for awards. The people making the movies get paid off the awards. Now more than ever. Stop putting the blame on the wrong place. You want change? Identify the problem.

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– deleted 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0
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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Certainly. But, did the Spice Girls get this much hate for girl power? Prince told you. Bernie Mac tried to tell you.

What you see today with the infighting was removed from school. The elders that lived through it were intentionally killed. Point it all out. The connections I make don't invalidate others. The digital, and physical lock-down was to prevent sharing of information.

Shout it out. Cite it. Fuck anyone that participates because. " it's just funny".

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– deleted 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0
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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

DEI is the opposite of equality. Think of DEI as fuck them rather than do onto others. ESG is a treasonous WEF directive. No American companies should be doing that, and it now legal.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/esg/republican-ags-pledge-to-sue-sec-over-emissions-disclosure-rules

Let's use the correct definitions, and implications of these definitions. Both acronyms are an industry. The people that push that shit sell books, seminars, speakers. The companies that incorporate them bought those curriculum. The idiots that believe any of that allowed themselves to be miseducated.

Who made money from reduce, reuse, recycle? You know how carbon credits worked out. It's become it's own industry. EV's are bad for the environment, and more expensive all around.

No one gave a fuck about squatters until blackrock bought neighborhoods of empty houses. Make the connections. Blackrock needs to be broken up long ago.

Edit : DEI used to be DAI. Which stood for adversity, and everyone experiences this on their life. It was intentionally changed to exclude.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

She’s nuts.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

On my cell, that was a detailed response. You just prefer to stick your head in the ground. Just remember this, manosphere and the Islamic terrorists agreed about Vienna. You may want to pay more attention.

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– AurelianWay 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Aren't BIPOC rules part of the DEI mandate. Regardless of awards these are rules that must be followed before a script is even written or a show / movie goes into production. Who should I putting the blame on. Have you identified the problem, what is / who is the problem in your opinion?

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

No. Hollywood has the pizzagate, Disney, Nickelodeon people in charge. Here's a quick search. I simply looked for an older article. I didn't read it.

https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-establishes-representation-and-inclusion-standards-oscarsr-eligibility

The most important part I want to tell you, that I think many people overlooked because they thought, " Ew Taylor Swift". TS was able to make. " The Eras Tour Movie" during the strike by giving them what they were asking for, and more. The industry was trying to do a backhanded take over. Bad movies, and the film screening contracts were studio sided.

There are email leaks of Swift's father making first a deal with one theater brand, and then others came begging. Because Swift gave them a 50/50 type deal rather than concessions only. That movie saved the movie theaters from bankruptcy, which the studios wanted. Think how much they fought Netflix not using theaters ( not required to follow rules) Then unhappy Netflix created their own.

Again people don't know. TS got around the law requiring an agent by having a management team that she pays. Amanda Bynes, Brittney Spears, and Lindsey Lohan all had the same agent when they went off the deep end.

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– nuggetpatrol 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

"Well akshually" pushes the glasses back onto the bridge of my nose "It would appear that Tolkien forgot this one thing. I can't believe they played that orc's skeleton like a xylophone and struck the same bone twice, yet we heard two distinctly different notes. Are we to believe that is some sort of magic bone? I hope someone got fired for that blunder."

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– RoulerBleu 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Making me reconsider the death penalty.

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– MargarineMongoose 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

The death penalty was always a humane option, but that's a separate discussion.

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– deleted 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0
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– tchouk 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

To be fair, literally no one does

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– Vicious_snek6 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I dunno, this year's was pretty exciting.

It had men in it.

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– dnile1000bc 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Feminists can never create. They can only corrupt or destroy

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– dagthegnome 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

This is why parents all over the West need to relearn how to tell their daughters "no."

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– Mpetey123 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

For the changes in House of the Dragon the writers came up with the excuse that the tale told in Fire and Blood was written by a bias maester. So their story is closer to the truth.

I dunno if that's less or more galling as an excuse than duh the original author just forgot.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

No no, he did not overlook Hollywood Hubris. He had several people offer and get refusals from him including Walt Disney himself.

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