It's not political hate posts. It's about human rights. We're defending human lives from a literal NAZI. Tolerance isn't used for the intolerant. Trump is a convicted felon and a rapist and a traitor to Democracy. Traitors should be hanged.
"Democracy" is when everyone votes for the candidate that The Experts™ say they should, that's why we have to make sure voters only see and hear what we want them to see and hear.
I agree with the point, but those aren't death threats. Death threats are "I'm going to kill you," not "go die" or "kill yourself." The other two may be rude or socially unacceptable, but accuracy matter...not death threats.
Anyone, right or left, who cries about "death threats" and presents something like that looks a little silly.
Again, I agree with your prime point, and it is very fun, and funny, to see leftists squirm as "cancel culture" comes for them when they cheer about wanting to blow the presidential frontrunner's head off.
Also, I love these StickerMule guys. Obviously know their stuff.
I agree with the point, but those aren't death threats.
That battle was lost long ago. Its why every single person who gets any controversy has them and their circle getting "death threats." Because they've been told literally that "KYS" is a threat they should take seriously and can get them full victim status.
Its so omnipowerful that its a rule here and I have been banned for doing it.
We can't reverse course out of it, all we can do is hold them to the standard until they are forced to tear it down to protect themselves and move onto a new shield.
It also shows they aren't interested in common ground or compromise, they want complete supplication. They are that angry by someone saying can everybody just take it down a knotch.
what they constitute as a death threat and these screenshots have confirmed my opinion that people don't know what death threats are.
Yup.
I'm not even going to get concerned if someone says they're going to kill me. That's technically a death threat, and it's certainly not cool, but it's not something I'll freak out about.
Now, post my full name, address, and tell me you're going to kill me? Yeah, that's time for police involvement and, if I want to flaunt it, internet attention. That's the type of threat worth getting upset/outraged over.
"DIE" is not a death threat. Like you said, it's not polite or respectable, and that person should be mocked, but if you claim it's a death threat you look a little silly.
Lots of what they do is malicious pretending and only works because well-intentioned third parties didn't stop them before they seized power and made themselves invulnerable to any reasonable defense.
"Cancel Culture" is not the same as "Consequence Culture" or even "the Rule of Law". People are saying the Right should copy the Left and cancel their enemies, but that's wrong. These Leftists aren't saying mean words, they're uttering threats. They shouldn't be fired, they should be jailed.
The whole "the Right should use the rules the Left has set for them" only serves to cover for the cowardice on the Right that completely fails to demand actual justice and settles for "giving them a taste of their own medicine". Having a bad opinion is not equivalent to calling for political violence, and we shouldn't accept that these people are walking free.
The Right shouldn't "cancel" individual retail workers, because that's gay and cringe, not to mention the fact that most Leftists don't work, which makes the tactic ineffective. Cancelling someone doesn't change their mind, and it makes you look fearful to others.
They absolutely should boycott companies who "support LGBETC", have DEI policies, pay for employee abortions, etc. Rightoids have money and companies will do what they think people want (especially once the ESG money dries up). Not only that, buy up the shares of these companies or do business with coops where you have a chance to vote on executives. Make sure they know where you stand as it relates to their business. Make political donations, not to the candidate you like, but to every candidate that will agree to your terms.
The Left took control, over a period of decades, by identifying and infiltrating all the levers of power. We can do that too, but it will take at as much time, resources, and perserverence as they put it.
The question you have to ask it: Am I as committed to my country as the Leftists are to destroying it?
Nope. Fight fire with fire. We learned this lesson during gamergate. The only thing that was even remotely effective was contacting advertisers en masse to push for cancellations.
And we had cucks like you complaining about “using the left’s weapons” back then, too.
Yup. I, and many others, are rightfully conflicted.
I don't agree with cancel culture in principle, but it's also fun to watch the people who've pushed it squirm.
Also, there's a difference between things like "hey, so maybe men shouldn't be in women's bathrooms," or "men and women are different," or "I'm a Christian and I don't believe in gay marriage," and "BLOW HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF!"
It might still be "cancel culture," but there's also a major difference in scope here. This isn't mere political difference. This isn't "they said something I disagree with, let's ruin their life." This is "what in the absolute shit did you just say, you fucking psycho?" Doesn't necessarily make it right, to be clear, but I do believe there's a real distinction.
Also, cancel culture aside, it's certainly fun to see these monsters shamed, too. These people have never been confronted, but now the right is mad, and these leftists are saying such absurd things and drawing their attention. It's kind of lovely. Even if on principle I'm not sure how to feel about it.
Lastly, there's also an argument that, by using something similar to their tactics (I get and agree with your argument to not embrace it completely, but there are similarities), we might be able to end this scrouge. Use "cancel culture" to end "cancel culture." If they get hit with their own nonsense, maybe we can calm everything down. I know that's a pipedream probably, though. Entrenched leftists won't learn or change their ways.
I see this as cold warfare. If one side says no we can't use this very effective tactic while the other side uses it relentlessly, then that first side is just going to lose barring a miracle. It's like if one side just stuck to swords when facing guns
They have intentionally gotten people fired from their jobs.
Again, I do think it's different since actual death threats are slightly different than political disagreements, but at least some of what they're accusing of being cancel culture does seem very similar.
Some on the right are "canceling" people. Again, for death threats, and that's an important distinction. But it's not a mere "boycott."
On Reddit you can get banned for suggesting that 'a physical place should meet a metaphorical misfortune', e.g. saying that L.A. or San Fransisco should burn (in reference to the race riots or the crime epidemic).
Also, 'wishing someone dead' is also a bannable offense.
That's what the standards are of these self-appointed holier-than-thou Big Tech lefists.
We would probably have been fine if they made even a token effort to pretend the rules were rules and not just a tool to use against their enemies, but they simply didn't have the self control for that.
What will happen is that after the right engages in cancel culture, the left will retaliate by ratcheting up their actions. We end up in a purity spiral on both sides and we end up in a (hopefully not literal) arms race between the left and the right of escalation and retribution.
It's just a on-demand print shop specializing in stickers and packaging, isn't it? Or is there something strange about it?
why does a sticker company need 79 support staff
Agree that seems like a lot. Maybe they're using a liberal definition of "support staff." Or maybe they've actually got enough customers to justify doing a 25 man 3-shift call center. IDK.
That or you somehow have a higher neutral party that will step in and prevent those tactics from being used or punish you for using it. No such thing in this war
The right needs to take away the left's weapons, not pick up the same ones and try to out-crazy them. The left by their nature will always be more crazy and willing to burn it all down and win that fight.
Their tactical nuke is the apology / playing nice. "You hurt my feelings" -> "Oh I'm so sorry I didn't mean to" needs to change to "fucking good, go cry about it you baby". This was the change Trump was elected to accomplish with his 'mean tweets' and if he had his proper 2020 term maybe he would have even finished the job. Jeb: You can't "insult your way to the Presidency" -- normally true -- but he did because that's what we needed to correct the Left's bad behavior.
Watch the infamous "Trump has no chill at the 9th GOP debate". This is the perfect encapsulation of why Trump won and how to handle leftists. This guy made it thinking it was an attack and deleted it because people kept assuming he was MAGA and he couldn't take it.
It's like with a kid throwing a tantrum, you don't throw a much larger tantrum and try to out tantrum them. You signal to them that you don't care that they are crying and wailing, they still have to eat their brussel sprouts. Once their crying doesn't work they stop throwing tantrums.
The left aren't losing their minds about grandma fired by Home Depot, they're losing their shit because nobody cares about their whining victimhood about it.
tl;dr guess this was simply too long a post. I'll try to be more concise next time.
https://x.com/stickermule/status/1812280776362168539?t=xuc9j9BPNVSoAGGSclFbIg&s=19
They're getting them because they posted this, telling people to stop the hate. And for that they get death threats and threats of cancellation.
They will say something stupid like this.
Yeah, that's another target for "cancel culture."
I don't know if Trump is already hung, but I know he has massive fucking balls.
"Quick, kill this dude, so people can't vote for him, so he can't win in a landslide...to protect our democracy!"
"Democracy" is when everyone votes for the candidate that The Experts™ say they should, that's why we have to make sure voters only see and hear what we want them to see and hear.
I still like when the globalists went mask off and said we could use AI to automate voting, for a more peaceful and efficient democracy.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
You have to put a trademark symbol every time: Our Democracy™.
Thank you for the context
I agree with the point, but those aren't death threats. Death threats are "I'm going to kill you," not "go die" or "kill yourself." The other two may be rude or socially unacceptable, but accuracy matter...not death threats.
Anyone, right or left, who cries about "death threats" and presents something like that looks a little silly.
Again, I agree with your prime point, and it is very fun, and funny, to see leftists squirm as "cancel culture" comes for them when they cheer about wanting to blow the presidential frontrunner's head off.
Also, I love these StickerMule guys. Obviously know their stuff.
That battle was lost long ago. Its why every single person who gets any controversy has them and their circle getting "death threats." Because they've been told literally that "KYS" is a threat they should take seriously and can get them full victim status.
Its so omnipowerful that its a rule here and I have been banned for doing it.
We can't reverse course out of it, all we can do is hold them to the standard until they are forced to tear it down to protect themselves and move onto a new shield.
It also shows they aren't interested in common ground or compromise, they want complete supplication. They are that angry by someone saying can everybody just take it down a knotch.
Agreed.
But Leftists characterize those as ''death threats'' when those comments are directed at them.
Ehhhhhh yeah, I guess, it's not technically a death threat... but it's definitely well above par.
Yup.
I'm not even going to get concerned if someone says they're going to kill me. That's technically a death threat, and it's certainly not cool, but it's not something I'll freak out about.
Now, post my full name, address, and tell me you're going to kill me? Yeah, that's time for police involvement and, if I want to flaunt it, internet attention. That's the type of threat worth getting upset/outraged over.
"DIE" is not a death threat. Like you said, it's not polite or respectable, and that person should be mocked, but if you claim it's a death threat you look a little silly.
Lots of what they do is malicious pretending and only works because well-intentioned third parties didn't stop them before they seized power and made themselves invulnerable to any reasonable defense.
So this is a tricky one but hear me out.
"Cancel Culture" is not the same as "Consequence Culture" or even "the Rule of Law". People are saying the Right should copy the Left and cancel their enemies, but that's wrong. These Leftists aren't saying mean words, they're uttering threats. They shouldn't be fired, they should be jailed.
The whole "the Right should use the rules the Left has set for them" only serves to cover for the cowardice on the Right that completely fails to demand actual justice and settles for "giving them a taste of their own medicine". Having a bad opinion is not equivalent to calling for political violence, and we shouldn't accept that these people are walking free.
The Right shouldn't "cancel" individual retail workers, because that's gay and cringe, not to mention the fact that most Leftists don't work, which makes the tactic ineffective. Cancelling someone doesn't change their mind, and it makes you look fearful to others.
They absolutely should boycott companies who "support LGBETC", have DEI policies, pay for employee abortions, etc. Rightoids have money and companies will do what they think people want (especially once the ESG money dries up). Not only that, buy up the shares of these companies or do business with coops where you have a chance to vote on executives. Make sure they know where you stand as it relates to their business. Make political donations, not to the candidate you like, but to every candidate that will agree to your terms.
The Left took control, over a period of decades, by identifying and infiltrating all the levers of power. We can do that too, but it will take at as much time, resources, and perserverence as they put it.
The question you have to ask it: Am I as committed to my country as the Leftists are to destroying it?
Nope. Fight fire with fire. We learned this lesson during gamergate. The only thing that was even remotely effective was contacting advertisers en masse to push for cancellations.
And we had cucks like you complaining about “using the left’s weapons” back then, too.
I disagree. Ultimately you also need the grunts to just stop with their threats not the corporations. To do that you need to target the grunts
As Rush Limbaugh proved you need to target the grunts to stop the corporations.
Yup. I, and many others, are rightfully conflicted.
I don't agree with cancel culture in principle, but it's also fun to watch the people who've pushed it squirm.
Also, there's a difference between things like "hey, so maybe men shouldn't be in women's bathrooms," or "men and women are different," or "I'm a Christian and I don't believe in gay marriage," and "BLOW HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF!"
It might still be "cancel culture," but there's also a major difference in scope here. This isn't mere political difference. This isn't "they said something I disagree with, let's ruin their life." This is "what in the absolute shit did you just say, you fucking psycho?" Doesn't necessarily make it right, to be clear, but I do believe there's a real distinction.
Also, cancel culture aside, it's certainly fun to see these monsters shamed, too. These people have never been confronted, but now the right is mad, and these leftists are saying such absurd things and drawing their attention. It's kind of lovely. Even if on principle I'm not sure how to feel about it.
Lastly, there's also an argument that, by using something similar to their tactics (I get and agree with your argument to not embrace it completely, but there are similarities), we might be able to end this scrouge. Use "cancel culture" to end "cancel culture." If they get hit with their own nonsense, maybe we can calm everything down. I know that's a pipedream probably, though. Entrenched leftists won't learn or change their ways.
I see this as cold warfare. If one side says no we can't use this very effective tactic while the other side uses it relentlessly, then that first side is just going to lose barring a miracle. It's like if one side just stuck to swords when facing guns
They have intentionally gotten people fired from their jobs.
Again, I do think it's different since actual death threats are slightly different than political disagreements, but at least some of what they're accusing of being cancel culture does seem very similar.
Some on the right are "canceling" people. Again, for death threats, and that's an important distinction. But it's not a mere "boycott."
On Reddit you can get banned for suggesting that 'a physical place should meet a metaphorical misfortune', e.g. saying that L.A. or San Fransisco should burn (in reference to the race riots or the crime epidemic).
Also, 'wishing someone dead' is also a bannable offense.
That's what the standards are of these self-appointed holier-than-thou Big Tech lefists.
We would probably have been fine if they made even a token effort to pretend the rules were rules and not just a tool to use against their enemies, but they simply didn't have the self control for that.
What will happen is that after the right engages in cancel culture, the left will retaliate by ratcheting up their actions. We end up in a purity spiral on both sides and we end up in a (hopefully not literal) arms race between the left and the right of escalation and retribution.
Wow, first, I'm gonna stop talking shit about how stupid Sticker Mule is as a concept.
And again, none of this is cancel culture. They gave a bonus to their staffers (... why does a sticker company need 79 support staff...).
It's just a on-demand print shop specializing in stickers and packaging, isn't it? Or is there something strange about it?
Agree that seems like a lot. Maybe they're using a liberal definition of "support staff." Or maybe they've actually got enough customers to justify doing a 25 man 3-shift call center. IDK.
The thing I hate about it is that it sells stickers. I think stickers are stupid as a concept.
I just don't stickers. I'm an anti-sticker bigot.
“Kill yourself” is a death threat?
How?
Was about to post the same thing. Saying that "Kill yourself" is a death threat is a typical leftist exaggeration.
Old Twitter's rules about that were put in place because psychotic leftists were telling people to kill themselves so much.
Had some dumb bitch try to use this as "proof" that Sticker Mule was doxxing people.
Lots of dumb bitches
):<
That or you somehow have a higher neutral party that will step in and prevent those tactics from being used or punish you for using it. No such thing in this war
Sounds MAD
Then you're wrestling with a pig.
The right needs to take away the left's weapons, not pick up the same ones and try to out-crazy them. The left by their nature will always be more crazy and willing to burn it all down and win that fight.
Their tactical nuke is the apology / playing nice. "You hurt my feelings" -> "Oh I'm so sorry I didn't mean to" needs to change to "fucking good, go cry about it you baby". This was the change Trump was elected to accomplish with his 'mean tweets' and if he had his proper 2020 term maybe he would have even finished the job. Jeb: You can't "insult your way to the Presidency" -- normally true -- but he did because that's what we needed to correct the Left's bad behavior.
Watch the infamous "Trump has no chill at the 9th GOP debate". This is the perfect encapsulation of why Trump won and how to handle leftists. This guy made it thinking it was an attack and deleted it because people kept assuming he was MAGA and he couldn't take it.
It's like with a kid throwing a tantrum, you don't throw a much larger tantrum and try to out tantrum them. You signal to them that you don't care that they are crying and wailing, they still have to eat their brussel sprouts. Once their crying doesn't work they stop throwing tantrums.
The left aren't losing their minds about grandma fired by Home Depot, they're losing their shit because nobody cares about their whining victimhood about it.
tl;dr guess this was simply too long a post. I'll try to be more concise next time.