Another disingenuous “study” that will be used to push “influencers” and onlythots as “healthy” relationships. By their own criteria they grabbed social media addicts then asked their opinion on how they feel about their addiction. Of course no research into why social media addicts don’t have strong personal relationships was even considered because that might actually answer a question.
Of course no research into why social media addicts don’t have strong personal relationships was even considered because that might actually answer a question.
It’s actually quite hard to form strong personal relationships in adulthood. I struggle with this myself. Anytime I’ve started to form closer bonds with people you find out they are usually woke believers. Maybe it’s just my area though. But also I started to form some bonds with hardcore Christians at work - only to be backstabbed and betrayed(credit stolen and given no acknowledgement) in a work scenario by the same people. So that kind of kills any motivation to continue those relationships.
What’s your experience been like or how have you formed strong personal relationships in adulthood?
Basically for us that are stuck in the bad places by circumstantial situation, we can't do anything but do the best and cope with it. You know, I have never thought about it but this is why I was so desperate to get out of Australia. I couldn't make any headway being stuck in this country. Made me realise why I'm pretty critical of anglo-western culture, I base it on my experience with Australia. And can you blame me when you see Australia popping up in the headline for being braindead morons constantly proving my point?
You really can't make friends after age 40 or so. You can make buddies -- maybe, but friendship is virtually impossible.
Remember, all of your friends from your youth shared intense bonding experiences with you. But by 40 you've already experienced most of what life has to offer. Anything new is just window-dressing.
Much as we rightfully mock 'cat lady' chicks, there's going to be a massive male loneliness crisis in the coming years. It doesn't help that manly stuff like the gym is so pozzed/feminized.
Man, are you trying to tell me you get more emotional fullfilment from watching a youtuber for hours than saying hi to a coworker you barely interact with? That's crazy and still in no way better than actual friends
If you are an anti-social loner or autist who doesn't get along with anyone and lives 24/7 on the net, it doesn't matter who the people around you are.
If you are a healthy, well adjusted human being surrounded by communists, naturally you won't want to interact with your neighbors.
Two different issues. The first is closer to what this study is about. (but the research subjects are probably little commies too, so fuck em)
You know they don't have to be communists at all. Where I'm from, most of the people are just normies with basic bitch politics and they are still not really dependable friends. Not to mention trying to socialise with them, you have to waste so much money like you are going on a date or something... then again they were all very poor with money. Around that time, I wasn't even a neet, I was trying so hard to keep up with them, I found out later I was drinking way too much during that period that binge drinking almost destroyed my liver. I'm trapped in the same circumstance like u/Lethn where the place I live in is not very great place to find decent people. That experience left me such a horrible impression on me, I assume almost all westerners/aussies are like this.
Believe me, I don't even like drinking all that much because I don't like getting drunk and the hangover next day but to socialise with people in Australia, you don't have much choice in the matter. I tried to convince my friends let's not hang in the tavern, let's just be indoors but you know as a person in the lower totem pole, my opinions aren't even taken that seriously. People will always go with what the social butterfly suggests not some loser in the back. After realising that, I bailed and burned bridge with them. I tried to hang out with them as long as I could because they were high school friends but I couldn't. And what do you know? After being alone by myself a while, my mental condition improved as well as my finance.
Parasocial relationships are incredibly unhealthy.
TotalBiscuit even tried many times to dissuade them when people he did not know got too interpersonal in the chat. After awhile hearing how chummy people were getting now and then, he'd just get a serious tone and say "You mean nothing to me. You're a name on my screen. I don't know you."
And of course people started hating him for it. But if they had thought about it, what was really going on was him trying to point out that they only know a fraction about him, what he puts online, and he bluntly doesn't even know who they are.
Also define 'casual friend'. The thresholds put on real friendship by the general public have always been far too low imo. God knows how disposable friendships are to today's terminally online young people. Yet even they have seen fit to identify a subset of friends as 'weaker relationships' (in the study), even further downgraded from their normal idea of friendship. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if the trannies and activists they have to pretend to agree with at work and school are actually a more poisonous influence than eg. some reaction youtuber whom they watch movies together with in their head.
Unsanctioned happy hours with coworkers you're actually friends with is criminally underrated. The lack of that sort of social gathering on the regular is part of what's wrong with the world and I'm so thankful for the few brief years where I got to have that in my life.
I think it is an instant gratification thing. People got this idea that you're supposed to have 24/7 access and 100% acceptance to people when you're in need. So the slightest "hey, I can't talk right now because of X" has them freaking out that they're not real friends or there from them.
Another disingenuous “study” that will be used to push “influencers” and onlythots as “healthy” relationships. By their own criteria they grabbed social media addicts then asked their opinion on how they feel about their addiction. Of course no research into why social media addicts don’t have strong personal relationships was even considered because that might actually answer a question.
Skimming the article, all 3 studies mentioned were based on self-reporting on parasocial relationships via online surveys.
The first study had YouTubers promote the survey link to their own audience.
This data is worse than worthless.
so, typical social sciences.
It’s actually quite hard to form strong personal relationships in adulthood. I struggle with this myself. Anytime I’ve started to form closer bonds with people you find out they are usually woke believers. Maybe it’s just my area though. But also I started to form some bonds with hardcore Christians at work - only to be backstabbed and betrayed(credit stolen and given no acknowledgement) in a work scenario by the same people. So that kind of kills any motivation to continue those relationships.
What’s your experience been like or how have you formed strong personal relationships in adulthood?
Basically for us that are stuck in the bad places by circumstantial situation, we can't do anything but do the best and cope with it. You know, I have never thought about it but this is why I was so desperate to get out of Australia. I couldn't make any headway being stuck in this country. Made me realise why I'm pretty critical of anglo-western culture, I base it on my experience with Australia. And can you blame me when you see Australia popping up in the headline for being braindead morons constantly proving my point?
Mutual kompromat. And in one case just sheer force of will.
You really can't make friends after age 40 or so. You can make buddies -- maybe, but friendship is virtually impossible.
Remember, all of your friends from your youth shared intense bonding experiences with you. But by 40 you've already experienced most of what life has to offer. Anything new is just window-dressing.
Much as we rightfully mock 'cat lady' chicks, there's going to be a massive male loneliness crisis in the coming years. It doesn't help that manly stuff like the gym is so pozzed/feminized.
Ftfy.
Man, are you trying to tell me you get more emotional fullfilment from watching a youtuber for hours than saying hi to a coworker you barely interact with? That's crazy and still in no way better than actual friends
How shit are the people around you that THIS could be applicable?
I'd just move anywhere else if this was the case.
It's less about people around you, or the place, and more about you and how you choose to interact with others.
If you are an anti-social loner or autist who doesn't get along with anyone and lives 24/7 on the net, it doesn't matter who the people around you are.
If you are a healthy, well adjusted human being surrounded by communists, naturally you won't want to interact with your neighbors.
Two different issues. The first is closer to what this study is about. (but the research subjects are probably little commies too, so fuck em)
You know they don't have to be communists at all. Where I'm from, most of the people are just normies with basic bitch politics and they are still not really dependable friends. Not to mention trying to socialise with them, you have to waste so much money like you are going on a date or something... then again they were all very poor with money. Around that time, I wasn't even a neet, I was trying so hard to keep up with them, I found out later I was drinking way too much during that period that binge drinking almost destroyed my liver. I'm trapped in the same circumstance like u/Lethn where the place I live in is not very great place to find decent people. That experience left me such a horrible impression on me, I assume almost all westerners/aussies are like this.
Believe me, I don't even like drinking all that much because I don't like getting drunk and the hangover next day but to socialise with people in Australia, you don't have much choice in the matter. I tried to convince my friends let's not hang in the tavern, let's just be indoors but you know as a person in the lower totem pole, my opinions aren't even taken that seriously. People will always go with what the social butterfly suggests not some loser in the back. After realising that, I bailed and burned bridge with them. I tried to hang out with them as long as I could because they were high school friends but I couldn't. And what do you know? After being alone by myself a while, my mental condition improved as well as my finance.
Parasocial relationships are incredibly unhealthy.
TotalBiscuit even tried many times to dissuade them when people he did not know got too interpersonal in the chat. After awhile hearing how chummy people were getting now and then, he'd just get a serious tone and say "You mean nothing to me. You're a name on my screen. I don't know you."
And of course people started hating him for it. But if they had thought about it, what was really going on was him trying to point out that they only know a fraction about him, what he puts online, and he bluntly doesn't even know who they are.
'simping is akshully good, more at 11'
Also define 'casual friend'. The thresholds put on real friendship by the general public have always been far too low imo. God knows how disposable friendships are to today's terminally online young people. Yet even they have seen fit to identify a subset of friends as 'weaker relationships' (in the study), even further downgraded from their normal idea of friendship. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if the trannies and activists they have to pretend to agree with at work and school are actually a more poisonous influence than eg. some reaction youtuber whom they watch movies together with in their head.
Bonus: No meetings in pubs with local like-minded people like the founding fathers did, before they did what needed to be done.
Unsanctioned happy hours with coworkers you're actually friends with is criminally underrated. The lack of that sort of social gathering on the regular is part of what's wrong with the world and I'm so thankful for the few brief years where I got to have that in my life.
I think it is an instant gratification thing. People got this idea that you're supposed to have 24/7 access and 100% acceptance to people when you're in need. So the slightest "hey, I can't talk right now because of X" has them freaking out that they're not real friends or there from them.
Ah yes, the study suggests. Always the sign of quality science.
subversion's out of control
Good ol' boys on YouTube with shaky camera phones have fulfilled my DIY plumbing needs better than my casual friends. Got to give them that one.