I have a free Amazon prime account and I sift through mounds of shit to watch old westerns and whatnot. I just opened the home page and I see they're advertising a new episode of 'The Boys' coming this Thursday.
What do they show to entice viewers to watch it? Two women. A redhead and a dyke looking black chick with braids.
Fucking lol not even a show that's explicity called 'The Boys' is immune. I know this isn't surprising in the slightest and just because a show is called the boys doesn't mean it's only dudes. But still I got a good chuckle when I saw it.
I watched season one and thought it was okay considering how low my expectations were. Then I heard about season two and never even gave it a chance.
Wasn't it obvious that The Boys was always cultural propaganda? I mean homelander is literally evil superman. It's difficult to make it more obvious than that.
Not only is he evil Superman, they have him dressed up in the American flag because USA bad.
You don't think Stormfront is evil Superman?
Stormfront was a woman with lightning powers in the show, unlike the comic counterpart who was basically Nazi Superman and also the genetic father of Homelander. That role goes to Soldier Boy in the show, the Captain America pastiche, who also isn't like the comic counterpart, because why bother staying true to the source material when making adaptations these days?
No. Stormfront isn't portrayed as an All-American hero.
I think he's getting Homelander conflated with her
It always was meant to be, but it failed to accomplish its task hard in its first season.
Which is why they've been trying to triple down on everything as hard as possible to push their agenda, yet people still keep liking Homelander and the Soldier one more than the clear "good guys." Including when they do offensive or evil things that are supposed to make them look bad.
Its a real poster child for misunderstanding your audience and writing so bad you end up a parody of yourself instead of them.
Soldier Boy really was the biggest backfire for them ever.
They tried so hard to make him the villain, but funnily enough, despite his upbringing, he still turned out to be one of the most loyal and honourable characters on the show and held steadfast to his word.
Despite his flaws and shortcomings, Soldier Boy showcased what it meant to overcome your roadblocks and get the job done no matter the cost.
It's funny because his content is all over social media being used by a lot of guys to basically showcase that he was a badass and an overcomer, and what it means to be a real man. Lots of those shorts have gone viral featuring him, and Jensen Ackles did a superb job humanising him and making him root-worthy.
I guess that's why -- as you mentioned -- they had to triple down on everything and push their propaganda even harder.
I've heard it called the archie bunker effect (from the 70s sitcom, all in the family, one of the first such instances of this happening)
The conservative character, even if flawed, even if written to lampoon the right, ends up becoming the most beloved and identified with. The left says it's because we're media illiterate. No, the characters are still well liked even when that's not what the authors intended, we get that they are attempts at satirising us, but they still end up being refreshing, based, and relatable.
Archie bunker of all in the family
Ron Swanson of parks and rec
Soldier boy of the boys season 3
Liberty prime and joshua graham of fallout maybe
Even some early Colbert, lampooning fox and rush and hannity and the like, he has some funny moments. Even if you disagree that it was 'good', what quality there was has fallen sharply away since he dropped that schtick. He was at least far better when he was that conservative character
What further helps is that the people the lefty authors are writing to put their points across are then unlikable, they are mary sues, they are insufferable Californian dweebs who try to give lectures. So yes, the tough texan character is a welcome relief and quickly becomes the favourite
And there is a lot of 'action' from those characters too, Archie bunker would apparantly still do a lot of good things, like you said with Soldier Boy.
I'm sure you can think of some more characters that fit the bill.
But I think it extends further, beyond just characters.
Whole games and movies that are well written in parts get the same treatment. From barbie to bioshock. Bioshock is absolutely a critique and dystopian view of randian objectivism and the galt-wannabes, but the libertarians loved the series. They get that its a critique, but it's well written and researched and not overly mean spirited, there's some fun in there too, it's not just preachy. So it's enjoyed more than it otherwise would be. Like with barbie though, it doesn't always elevate something to 'good', but it elevates it above where it was. We could also talk about helldivers, 40k and starship troopers here. It just keeps happening. And I think early 'the boys' had some of this going for it too, before they crossed a threshold.
Precisely... Rorschach is another character that fits the bill. Alan Moore tried to make him such a parody of the American Conservative Right that a lot of what he had Rorschach do and say actually resonated with reasonable people who felt like being hard on crime and removing government padding and social systems is a good thing.
We also saw it happen recently with a resurgence in popularity with The Punisher, which is why Marvel has been going way out of their way to emasculate and humiliate the character as much as possible, especially during these times.
I guess in these times, you can just go right down the list of Lefty writers trying to portray a certain Right-wing-adjacent character as a villain only for their moral code and conduct to widely resonate with the general audience and for Lefties to inevitably go... "No, you're not so supposed to react to the character like that!!!"
Not having principles other than the ends justify the means makes it very difficult to recognize the value of abiding by principles unto death.
It's honestly rather pathetic. He writes a nihilist reasonably accurately and can't see the nobility that's staring him in the face.
So it's like starship troopers? I guess I might download it then.
no not at all.
That's not the point.
My point is that the 3rd season picks up again because there is a character that people like for a particular reason, but it's still not good. Just that this character has the 'archie bunker effect' going for him.
It's not worth it just for that though.
You've actually misjudged bioshock. It's not a critique of randian-ism, it uses rand as a proxy for Jewish populations. Which is why Ryan is portrayed sympathetically, because according to the author, he's tragic not because he's misguided, but because of what he's forced to do.
He's completely justified symbolicly, which is why it gets taken the way you've described it.
But in the eyes of the writer, he agrees that Ryan is the good guy, but for entirely different reasons than you do, which is why the game itself feels slightly off.
Rapture would be paradise if it weren't for the goy Fontaine corrupting it.
Essentially yes
It didn't help they cast Jensen Ackles in the role. A lot of people love him for his role in Supernatural, and a few other things he did, but mostly the Supernatural thing. So trying to make him the bad guy was doomed from the start.
I didn't watch the show; did they do the bit where Homelander buggers Soldier Boy every year at Herogasm because Soldier Boy thinks it'll get him into the Seven if he does a good enough job, but it never does?
In the show Soldier Boy is Homelander's father and spent the last Captain America in ice years locked up in some random country prison. The show very quickly diverted from the comic material so most things from the comics don't happen.
A lot of the show differs from the comic.
Supers are far less widespread, and season 1 starts with Compound V not even being a known thing until part way through.
The comic not only has more supers in general, but also far more widespread knowledge and use of V to make them as happens to the entire lineup of The Boys prior to the story starting, and eventually Stewie.
In the show 'The Female' is the only one of the team who has powers.
Herogasm doesn't exist.
All the other parody teams don't exist.
Stormfront isn't literal Nazi Superman still living in the modern day, but he is a female Nazi with superpowers from WW2 so part of that concept was retained if then horribly adapted.
There was no botched 9/11 op, but there is a scene where Homelander and Maeve, who can't fly in the show, try and stop a plane high-jacking but not only make it worse and cause the plane to crash, but get caught on camera fucking the whole thing up.
No, they changed SB a bit from what I heard they did in the comics.
That said in the series Solider Boy really isn't a bad guy. He's basically just your every-guy from 1980 plus he does a shit ton of drugs which don't do shit for him anyway because he's basically immune to everything.
They tried to make.him into some "oh my gerd he's worse than the guy who literally kills hundreds of innocent people because he says things that are possibly racially insensitive"
Did not see the last season, don't plan to either but from what I see they keep trying and failing. Homelander is a someone who is just enjoyable to see, when he appears you know someone is fucked. They even make him sympathetic, at least in my eyes.
I took a look at it and said "nah." Supposedly it's a satire of capeshit. Which would be enjoyed, presumably, by people who enjoy capeshit. Are not satires of office work mainly enjoyed by office workers, etc?
Apparently from the fans that watch it, it seems the writers have a hard time with the fact people LIKE Homelander so try their best to ruin him and MAKE him hateable.
The results? Nah he's still well liked because he has a great actor behind him, their efforts to emasculate him backfired making him seem more the victim of circumstance and the show is tanking because people can EASILY see the agenda pushing because the writers are too obvious.
Remember when they made Karl Urban unironically say "He's my wife's son" and we were supposed to be on his side and think the other guy was bad and mean?
That's the level of writers they are working with.
Glad I ducked out early. Don't need to hear the kind of drivel that would get you put in an isocube from Dredd's mouth.
Remember "the Cuck" scene from one of the seasons? Not only is the scene pure distilled cringe, but they don't even write it correctly.
I wondered why they are really trying to make him hateable in season 4 - he’s got prostate problems (that a black female genius - Sister Sage- could determine by looking at his hands)
Even though it is propaganda they had one of the funniest lines with Sister Sage asking Deep to give her a frontal lobotomy.
The purpose of which is to make her amenable to sex with Deep, otherwise she finds him detestable.
I think they're trying to portray her as a "liberated, don't-need-no-man, black Slay-Queen" but she just comes across as a violently unlikeable cardboard cut-out.
Well, at least you didn’t get to see the “progression” of (Erin Moriarty) as Starlight’s face, then…
That’s the most depressing thing about the show, imho.
Hard to act effectively when you can no longer emote properly with your ruined face, lol.
She's heckin' stunning and brave and you nazi chud bigots cant keep a strong woman down!
https://stylecaster.com/entertainment/tv-movies/1794671/erin-moriarty-plastic-surgery/
BJ girl turned bimbo? Sounds like the most realistic thing in this mess.
She bogged herself out
BJ as an in blowjob? I haven’t seen it, but that would… Make sense, in the context.
You haven’t missed anything if you stop after season 1 according to the critical drinker :
https://youtu.be/N1ubB8tjL04
It’s now another attack on working class americans at every turn. It could have been written by the DNC.
I'll give season 1 a try and stop there, thanks.
This season isn't even fun. Watched (sort of) the first three episodes; while it was always "superheroes are white supremacist REEE", it was at least fun "ree". Now it's just preachy, gory, ree.
It's just basically the satanic version of Davey and Goliath, but then, what isn't any more?
If you want subverted heroes as damaged people, just go read/watch Ranger Reject instead.
Or the early seasons of Misfits.
Aaaah man it's been ages since I saw that, yeah the early misfits was good. Like british xmen where the powers have serious drawbacks or are just plain shite. A good cause it's british and funny, and from all the way back in 2010 so not utterly corrupted.
I’ve read the first two volumes of the comics and liked it. Never saw the show. I’ve heard mixed reviews and I know the showrunner has TDS.
What westerns do you like?
The show is shit compared to the comic. It's shit on its own, but a complete mess in terms of an adaptation.
Season 1 was good. B+
2 was C-.
3 was 20% good and 80% garbage. Do D tops. Some cameos made it interesting, with Jensen Ackles.
4 I haven't watched but I've heard it was the worst of them all by far and then I heard the show runner Kripke was shitting on right learners and saw his quotes about right leaning people and just said fuck that. He thinks MGT is extreme. She's so milquetoast it's not even funny. The left is so up their own ass they don't even know what someone moderately right win is.
anyway, Just degenerate crap. some guy like ant man shrunk down and went into another guys dick hole. No joke. It was either season 2 or 3.
Karl Urban carries the entire show along with Starr and Ackles when he was soldier boy in season 3. And Urban saying cunt every.oyhwt word for shock value loses its charm after the hundredth time.
Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill and Evan Goldberg are all fucking disgusting degenerates.
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