That is why I don't like bluestorm. He is just bad at trolling. We had some better trolls a while back, he is just so low iq I find it insulting. We are so insignificant that we can only attract lowest quality of trolls?
Alot of users here claim that the users here are smart.
and that this place is filled with the brightest and smartest.
...and everyone here is their own self-proclaimed hero, fighting for the little guy
claiming your way is the only way and anything else needs to be shut down or censored
A big "where?" to all of those.
real circular logic there.
Define "circular logic" or how it applies here.
...even the people who, quite frankly should be more aligned with me [aren't]
Speaking of circular logic.
I love how every argument you have goes back to 'whaaaaa, people don't believe what I want them to!'
the users here claim equality doesn't work, because it's anti white, anti male, anti family whatever.
There is an anti white/male/family narrative, 100%. Not sure why you're tying that specifically to "equality" and it not working. Two separate issues.
whatever i'm fucking dumb i guess.
You yourself say at length how dumb you are. Why should anyone take you seriously? Hell, why should you take yourself seriously? And why do you think your opinions are correct, when you admit over and over how dumb you are? You yourself think you're dumber than average. Why do you think your opinion is more correct than ours, for example? Why do you give your own opinions more weight than other people, when you say openly that you're very slow and have trouble thinking?
unless that same little guy is gay, a woman, or non-white, or jewish. then fuck em.
The funny thing about arguing with collectivists is they're so collectivist they can't even imagine something else. Just because some people here may have problems in aggregate with gays/women/nonwhites/Jews, does not mean we all hate all of them, or that there's any hypocrisy. Collectivism and statistics are two different things.
You literally can't wrap your head around that someone might not like characteristics of one of your precious "protected classes" while not hating everyone in that group. Because you're a collectivist, who can't help but group people and act like they're a monolith. Statistically: Black people commit more crime, gays commit more pedophilia, women are more prone to propaganda and less logical, and Jews have disproportionate control/representation. Those are all true statements. Doesn't mean you have to hate every member of those groups.
I'm trying to figure out what's your end game here...
End game to what? Our opinions? How we view the world? Doesn't have to be an endgame, it's just a perspective. You're the one spinning out and acting like we have to think how you think.
you guys are just as bad as the left.
Once again, why should anyone take you seriously? You're dumb, you've said you're dumb, you're antagonistic, you don't bring up a single good point, and yet you want people to think how you want them to. Why should we listen to someone who hates us and can't bring up a good argument? Why should I care that you claim I'm "as bad as the left?"
You couldn't even spell the first word of your sperging correctly, "Alot" is not a word. The term you were trying to use is "A lot", thereby proving you really aren't smart, dipshit.
Equality of opportunity, sure. Equality of outcome, never. We tried the former and you didn't like the results so now you infected society to push the latter.. you discard merit and reality itself to empower retards that don't deserve it and now we both suffer from your idiocy. People are angry. Our end goal is restoring what we had and making sure you animals don't ruin it again.
Controlling the entire beginning of a process is just as futile and a waste of time, for the exact same reasons, as controlling the end of a process. You cannot provide "opportunity" in a equity based way at the starting line, just as you cannot ensure that everyone wins at the finish line. It's the exact same nonsense just stuck in a format that is flavored in such a way that you find palatable.
The only kind of equality that is even somewhat possible is equality under the law, and even that isn't real, because the friend/enemy distinction exists. When you are in front of a judge or jury, they all interpret the scenario with their understanding of who is friend and who is enemy.
It's not about absolute opportunity, that's impossible. It's about creating a foundation that allows anyone with the will and aptitudes to elevate themselves. That is possible because we've done it for decades and it only requires a certain threshold of fairness, not perfection.
Friendship is not a birthright, it must be earned. Let those that would be your allies be rewarded by the proof of their worth while your enemies reveal themselves through the punishment of their own failure. It is the system that you want.
It's wikipedia so yeah it's going to have a bias but saying NAZIs and the CCCP are right wing dictatorships is beyond parody.
Dude, you can't believe you are a victim when you barked at and tried bullying everyone who initially engaged in good faith. You are the outlier here, you should be prepared to accept that fact and try to handle it gracefully. But you act like a child bursting into an adult conversation and throws a tantrum when the adults don't treat it like an equal.
I imagine most people believe in equality, but it's the equality of opportunity and not of outcome.
The issue here is this. the users here claim equality doesn't work, because it's anti white, anti male, anti family whatever.
Oh, look the retreat to the motte, as always. Seems like lies are all people like you have to live by.
Nobody is fighting for equality on the mainstream left anymore, it's been all about equity for at least the last 5 years. I.E. take from the best and give to the worst, which in practical terms averages out to being anti- all of the above. Equality has been relegated to fringe and dissident political groups now.
I'm trying to figure out what's your end game here, and yes i am bringing this up again. you guys are just as bad as the left. shitting on normies, and center leaning people. claiming your way is the only way and anything else needs to be shut down or censored. and not to mention both sides odd obsession with fucking race. i just feel like you guys would be better off in a gazebo jerking eachother off, then being online acting like intellectuals, trying to answer the big questions in life. of which you know very little about.
Tell me you are joking. Did you really write that whole paragraph without a hint of irony?
There comes a point where you begin to realize that nothing means what you think it means and that centrism is a quiet cession of power to people who don't have good things for you in mind - and that even your lexicon of what you think is good and right, what's right and what's wrong, has been weaponized against you.
And that's the price of being a middling centrist in a cultural war. You are a frog boiling in a pot of misappropriated "want", dicking about whether or not the peas and carrots were a nice touch.
You might say I am no better than a leftist, but I disagree - my vision of the future is much better for myself and my own; that's all you can really do. They really do want you dead.
next time try asking what my beliefs are first. instead of jumping to wild conclusions.
Your views are as basic bitch as they come and require no close examination because we've already tried it your way - all of this shit is the result of being a middling little faggot, just like you; it's a recipe for constantly giving ground because you think that these people are playing the same game as you. They are not.
You might temporarily placate the supposedly "neutral" individuals involved but demographically/culturally speaking you will always lose. The peas and carrots are not your friends, they're part of the soup.
Just because you're the only plainly stupid person on this board doesn't mean that everyone else is "the brightest and smartest."
There are plenty of people who disagree on various topics (Ukraine/Russia war and Hamas/Israel come to mind) and most people just argue and downvote.
But you're just fucking stupid. There's no point in trying to engage with you on any topic of substance.
As for end game? I just want to be left alone, particularly by stupid people like you. You go ahead and do your own thing. I don't care. Leave me alone, and if you don't like what I'm doing, I DON'T CARE.
Hint: dancing naked through the street in sexualized displays in a "pride" parade is not leaving people alone.
I realize that's a lot of paragraphs for you to absorb all at once, but I tried to keep them short. Apologies if any of that made your head hurt.
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Aspire to be a centrist dictator like Napoleon
All I can do is sigh at this, it's a poorly constructed post designed to bait.
That is why I don't like bluestorm. He is just bad at trolling. We had some better trolls a while back, he is just so low iq I find it insulting. We are so insignificant that we can only attract lowest quality of trolls?
Citation needed on the following:
A big "where?" to all of those.
Define "circular logic" or how it applies here.
Speaking of circular logic.
I love how every argument you have goes back to 'whaaaaa, people don't believe what I want them to!'
There is an anti white/male/family narrative, 100%. Not sure why you're tying that specifically to "equality" and it not working. Two separate issues.
You yourself say at length how dumb you are. Why should anyone take you seriously? Hell, why should you take yourself seriously? And why do you think your opinions are correct, when you admit over and over how dumb you are? You yourself think you're dumber than average. Why do you think your opinion is more correct than ours, for example? Why do you give your own opinions more weight than other people, when you say openly that you're very slow and have trouble thinking?
The funny thing about arguing with collectivists is they're so collectivist they can't even imagine something else. Just because some people here may have problems in aggregate with gays/women/nonwhites/Jews, does not mean we all hate all of them, or that there's any hypocrisy. Collectivism and statistics are two different things.
You literally can't wrap your head around that someone might not like characteristics of one of your precious "protected classes" while not hating everyone in that group. Because you're a collectivist, who can't help but group people and act like they're a monolith. Statistically: Black people commit more crime, gays commit more pedophilia, women are more prone to propaganda and less logical, and Jews have disproportionate control/representation. Those are all true statements. Doesn't mean you have to hate every member of those groups.
End game to what? Our opinions? How we view the world? Doesn't have to be an endgame, it's just a perspective. You're the one spinning out and acting like we have to think how you think.
Once again, why should anyone take you seriously? You're dumb, you've said you're dumb, you're antagonistic, you don't bring up a single good point, and yet you want people to think how you want them to. Why should we listen to someone who hates us and can't bring up a good argument? Why should I care that you claim I'm "as bad as the left?"
You couldn't even spell the first word of your sperging correctly, "Alot" is not a word. The term you were trying to use is "A lot", thereby proving you really aren't smart, dipshit.
https://archive.ph/FVPZc
He should move to an all-black country since that means hwites commit no crime there
chef's kiss
I know you don't understand per capital but what do you think circular logic is?
“Irony” is you making a thread to call out people for saying they’re smart.
Equality of opportunity, sure. Equality of outcome, never. We tried the former and you didn't like the results so now you infected society to push the latter.. you discard merit and reality itself to empower retards that don't deserve it and now we both suffer from your idiocy. People are angry. Our end goal is restoring what we had and making sure you animals don't ruin it again.
Controlling the entire beginning of a process is just as futile and a waste of time, for the exact same reasons, as controlling the end of a process. You cannot provide "opportunity" in a equity based way at the starting line, just as you cannot ensure that everyone wins at the finish line. It's the exact same nonsense just stuck in a format that is flavored in such a way that you find palatable.
The only kind of equality that is even somewhat possible is equality under the law, and even that isn't real, because the friend/enemy distinction exists. When you are in front of a judge or jury, they all interpret the scenario with their understanding of who is friend and who is enemy.
It's not about absolute opportunity, that's impossible. It's about creating a foundation that allows anyone with the will and aptitudes to elevate themselves. That is possible because we've done it for decades and it only requires a certain threshold of fairness, not perfection.
I disagree.
You should have a system that rewards friends, and excludes or punishes enemies.
We also haven't done it for decades. We've had the civil rights act for decades. Which punishes our friends and rewards our enemies.
Friendship is not a birthright, it must be earned. Let those that would be your allies be rewarded by the proof of their worth while your enemies reveal themselves through the punishment of their own failure. It is the system that you want.
Opportunity isn't something we need to provide. Just get government out of the way.
It's wikipedia so yeah it's going to have a bias but saying NAZIs and the CCCP are right wing dictatorships is beyond parody.
Dude, you can't believe you are a victim when you barked at and tried bullying everyone who initially engaged in good faith. You are the outlier here, you should be prepared to accept that fact and try to handle it gracefully. But you act like a child bursting into an adult conversation and throws a tantrum when the adults don't treat it like an equal.
I imagine most people believe in equality, but it's the equality of opportunity and not of outcome.
And there is no irony in your statement.
You are, you're.
Survive the fire and rule the ashes with an iron fist.
Y'see, this is where you're wrong.
Oh, look the retreat to the motte, as always. Seems like lies are all people like you have to live by.
Nobody is fighting for equality on the mainstream left anymore, it's been all about equity for at least the last 5 years. I.E. take from the best and give to the worst, which in practical terms averages out to being anti- all of the above. Equality has been relegated to fringe and dissident political groups now.
Tell me you are joking. Did you really write that whole paragraph without a hint of irony?
There comes a point where you begin to realize that nothing means what you think it means and that centrism is a quiet cession of power to people who don't have good things for you in mind - and that even your lexicon of what you think is good and right, what's right and what's wrong, has been weaponized against you.
And that's the price of being a middling centrist in a cultural war. You are a frog boiling in a pot of misappropriated "want", dicking about whether or not the peas and carrots were a nice touch.
You might say I am no better than a leftist, but I disagree - my vision of the future is much better for myself and my own; that's all you can really do. They really do want you dead.
Hate us, see if we mind.
Your views are as basic bitch as they come and require no close examination because we've already tried it your way - all of this shit is the result of being a middling little faggot, just like you; it's a recipe for constantly giving ground because you think that these people are playing the same game as you. They are not.
You might temporarily placate the supposedly "neutral" individuals involved but demographically/culturally speaking you will always lose. The peas and carrots are not your friends, they're part of the soup.
Try leaving 2012 sometime.
Just because you're the only plainly stupid person on this board doesn't mean that everyone else is "the brightest and smartest."
There are plenty of people who disagree on various topics (Ukraine/Russia war and Hamas/Israel come to mind) and most people just argue and downvote.
But you're just fucking stupid. There's no point in trying to engage with you on any topic of substance.
As for end game? I just want to be left alone, particularly by stupid people like you. You go ahead and do your own thing. I don't care. Leave me alone, and if you don't like what I'm doing, I DON'T CARE.
Hint: dancing naked through the street in sexualized displays in a "pride" parade is not leaving people alone.
I realize that's a lot of paragraphs for you to absorb all at once, but I tried to keep them short. Apologies if any of that made your head hurt.
Get your shit together, man.
Blue you're literally the low-mid-high iq meme
Apologies in advance, but you'd be mid
No, he's beyond low. He literally had to have per-capita explained to him.