I feel like the reason anime has good female characters is because they are characters first, who just so happened to be female.
Once upon a time, Hollywood wrote characters like this too. Nowadays, if a character is female, their female-ness has to be their defining trait. they can't just be a badass secret agent, they have to be a badass WOMAN secret agent, and the audience has to be reminded of that every 3 seconds.
Its not even that they write characters that coincidentally are female. Casca is one of the most well known female characters in manga/anime ever, is designed bottom to top as female first with it defining every single aspect of her character, and is still one of the strongest characters around. It took the worst nightmares imaginable to break her, and she still eventually managed to be reformed.
The problem with Hollywood is they write them as a victim first, and then strong after. They are constantly defined by their oppression and victimhood, and their "strength" is made by fighting back against it.
Even worse, they are designed to be just the right amount of weak to let betaboys feel comfortable around them. So they are "strong" enough to cover his meekness, while also having that controlled weakness that he can be "sensitive to" to win her over.
Its ironic, but they are still 100% designed as creatures for certain types of men to lust over. They just changed from red blooded regular men to the type of guy who wants to Feminist his way into your panties.
the hilarious thing is that victim first characters are not even necessarily bad writing. but when it becomes the only thing that the industry can write, it becomes extremely stale.
From what I’ve heard a large portion of shehulk is her being frustrated at not being able to find a guy worth fucking. Which is hilarious since the actress is like a perfect 5/10 and over 30.
(X-0.5)/10 or above, where X is the level of attractiveness of the hotest guy who fucked her on a dating app.
That's a generalization of the the range a woman on a dating app is stuck at. Anything below, she will resent him because she is ''settling'', and will be looking for that X/10+ she thinks she can get to commit to her because she was fucked by one, once.
And considering a woman 4/10+ browsing the dating app daily likely got a 7, 8 or 9/10 to fuck her once, this explains why women rate 8/10 of men as ''below average'' ( whereas men rate women on a perfect bell curve of attractiveness ).
hoe_math explains very well how attraction works, how women become totally delusional about their value and men's value.
Also fairly telling men that investing in her ( time, kindness, money ) will not make her sexually desire you, you have to work on your appearance and get fit for women to desire you instead of friendzoning you.
When women and society give you the advice to ''just be nice'', ''just be yourself'', ''it's okay to be soft, chubby, gym rats are dumb and women don't want gym rats'' they are lying to you. She will not fuck your niceness. She will fuck your body. So chisel your body, groom and wash it if you want a woman to desire it. Treating her well, niceness and fidelity is how you move from fuckboy zone into long term relationship zone.
You can't ''power-nice-guy'' your way out of the friend-zone, you need to make yourself fuckable first.
Or be ridiculously rich and land a gold digger. But that dosen't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet, not you.
I agree with a lot of this and it's also why I moved away from dating.
You say "it doesn't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet"
I agree as well. But it also doesn't feel good to know she doesn't want who I am. As someone who fluctuated wildly thru school and afterwards and has settled pretty fit atp, I became greatly disillusioned with women as a whole.
I was a fat kid and was bullied for it, hit puberty and trimmed up, and it stopped. I had some depression issues relating to ADHD meds I took in middle school and that fattened me up again, and the bullying recommenced. I trimmed up again with Rugby in high school. Fattened up again when the sports stopped. I've finally mostly regulated myself and am in a good spot, not as good as when I was a starting Prop but whatever.
I tell you the most hate and bullying I got was from women. I had guys "bully" me for weight, but really most of it was the guys trying to get me to be ashamed and get right, tho I couldn't help it at times like with medication. The women went from being attracted to treating me like I didn't exist or was inhuman scum, and back again. It was insane. The men didn't do that. It was just ribbing and pushing me to get better. They still were my friends or acquaintances, talked to me.
Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but more power to you. I can't anymore. Seeing it happen in real time how women dehumanize you and go psychotically cold toward you based on attraction levels was nutty. Made me very wary of them.
I got bullied and had zero people show sexual interest in me too. The bullying largely died-down when we teenagers matured, and by strictly sticking to : shut up if you have nothing nice to say about people, no matter the context or who is there to hear it. That's for school. After school I didn't spend much time with people.
Yes people get more touchy and friendly when you get fit. ( Women doing those small random physical contacts during conversations. )
I was so spiteful of that when I was younger. ''Oh people are so shallow, I am a good person and I'm nice to people!'' Well humans ( me included ) are visual creatures hard-wired to find certain trait attractive and others repulsive to make them choose fit mates. Too bad. Resenting that won't change it.
So I put my energy into hobbies and I accepted humans aren't that complex : if you want to be sexually desired, make yourself sexually desirable on aspects under your control.
Some of my hobbies I can share with people, that's nice, but I'm only comfortable if the hobby is the center of attention, not other personal stuff normal people make small talk about.
I don't care that much for dating, so I don't date either. Not that anyone hit on me, and I never hit on anyone.
Still, getting fit alleviates depression. Pills didn't have a positive impact for me. Daily exercise did. People wanting to be friendly to you more is a bonus, but I'm a loner anyway.
I disagree that to win you have to become a cold, caring monster. There are women attracted to that and the "dark personality traits" but most just want a fit, confident mate at the end of the day. To "win", just go to the gym and fix your diet and confidence does follow when you get to a level of fitness and healthier eating.
Not just from the increased attraction you will recieve, but being a stronger physical person not subsiding on junk food helps bring it out.
I very much agree with this and hate how women and society keeps telling men the opposite.
It's completely understandable that a woman wouldn't want to fuck you if you're a chubby out of shape piece of shit. When you break it down to base animal kingdom level scrubbing away all the human social norms, you're showing that you're a bad potential mate with poor impulse control and no desire to improve. That's really the crux of it, like if you don't want to be in the friend-zone (And this applies to all social human relationships) go to the gym and cut down on the calories you consume.
She's a woman who complains about how she's always getting cat-called in the streets, as well as how she can never get a date. Schroedinger's sexiness in action, where she's both so attractive men can't keep their eyes off her, and yet will never give her the time of day.
I remember making a Reddit post about how a mid-looking woman demanding she get the best men possible is a dumb plot point and I got 30 downvotes and the top reply was: “the actress is clearly beautiful, you incel!”
Feminist characters never have any sense of duty or self sacrifice or humility.
Can we talk about Zelda from tears of the kingdom? She was a strong female character that sacrificed her humanity to help Link defeat Ganondorf. A female character that has self sacrificing and dutiful behavior .Where is this type of strong female character that has a sense of duty and self sacrifice in Hollywood feminist stories? there is none
it's a really good chill show. whether or not it's the best show is a matter of taste, but it has a clear goal of being chill and relaxing while simultaneously being adventurous, and executes on that phenomenally.
I didn't like the first episodes of the ''immature yet stoic characters might as well be emotionless animated dolls'', but it gets alot better and I'd recommend it as ''good''.
She’s lecturing a man who has done nothing but suffer for the good of mankind. Because she maybe got catcalled and/or disrespected at work a couple times.
First episode of Supergirl : girlboss CEO tells Supergirl how unfair it is women have to work twice as hard for half the reward men get. ( ignore reality : muh disparate outcome, please ignore disparate effots/inputs and give wimminz superior outcomes. )
The ''hero'' is entirely self-absorbed and exclusively focussed on getting people and journalists to view her as the awesome kickass girlboss she thinks she is. Criticism is mysoginy. She cannot brush-off the parts of the criticism that is unwarranted : criticising wimminz has to stop. How do we make it stop and get the adulation going? : That's the plot of the episode.
Isn't this supposed to be a superhero show? Because they made a superEgo shitty feminist fanfiction.
I can't recall if I even finished the first episode before refusing to watch more of that garbage.
Everything Woke turns to shit.
I didn't even bother trying to watch She Hulk, as it was deliberately advertized as Feminist girbossing.
My dad and I watched the show. I rolled my eyes at the feminist talking points and stopped watching when the sister all of a sudden realized she was a lesbian. I enjoyed supergirl in the comic books (ones I read from early 00s and prior). Supergirl was one of the last newer shows I watched. It helped solidify my “don’t watch anything made after 2014” rule
I feel like the reason anime has good female characters is because they are characters first, who just so happened to be female.
Once upon a time, Hollywood wrote characters like this too. Nowadays, if a character is female, their female-ness has to be their defining trait. they can't just be a badass secret agent, they have to be a badass WOMAN secret agent, and the audience has to be reminded of that every 3 seconds.
Its not even that they write characters that coincidentally are female. Casca is one of the most well known female characters in manga/anime ever, is designed bottom to top as female first with it defining every single aspect of her character, and is still one of the strongest characters around. It took the worst nightmares imaginable to break her, and she still eventually managed to be reformed.
The problem with Hollywood is they write them as a victim first, and then strong after. They are constantly defined by their oppression and victimhood, and their "strength" is made by fighting back against it.
They're designed to be stand ins for wine moms.
Even worse, they are designed to be just the right amount of weak to let betaboys feel comfortable around them. So they are "strong" enough to cover his meekness, while also having that controlled weakness that he can be "sensitive to" to win her over.
Its ironic, but they are still 100% designed as creatures for certain types of men to lust over. They just changed from red blooded regular men to the type of guy who wants to Feminist his way into your panties.
I cant imagine what kind of a man one has to be to go for abusive bitches.
There is no greater joy than to take one who thinks they are strong and to remind them they are weak.
But for most guys, they are just masochistic little bitches and deserve to be abused.
Gotta dig into that 1pm on a weekday cinema crowd
the hilarious thing is that victim first characters are not even necessarily bad writing. but when it becomes the only thing that the industry can write, it becomes extremely stale.
i'm surprised they didn't seethe over Revy yet
then again they're a bunch of tourists that probably have no idea Black Lagoon is a thing
speaking of Goblin Slayer, 'member how hard tourists sperged out over Redo of Healer? that was real hilarious to observe unfolding
it simply was revenge rape: the anime cranked up to 11, yet they pretended Kill Bill and the likes of it don't exist
maybe it's because main character was male
From what I’ve heard a large portion of shehulk is her being frustrated at not being able to find a guy worth fucking. Which is hilarious since the actress is like a perfect 5/10 and over 30.
(X-0.5)/10 or above, where X is the level of attractiveness of the hotest guy who fucked her on a dating app.
That's a generalization of the the range a woman on a dating app is stuck at. Anything below, she will resent him because she is ''settling'', and will be looking for that X/10+ she thinks she can get to commit to her because she was fucked by one, once.
And considering a woman 4/10+ browsing the dating app daily likely got a 7, 8 or 9/10 to fuck her once, this explains why women rate 8/10 of men as ''below average'' ( whereas men rate women on a perfect bell curve of attractiveness ).
hoe_math explains very well how attraction works, how women become totally delusional about their value and men's value.
Also fairly telling men that investing in her ( time, kindness, money ) will not make her sexually desire you, you have to work on your appearance and get fit for women to desire you instead of friendzoning you.
When women and society give you the advice to ''just be nice'', ''just be yourself'', ''it's okay to be soft, chubby, gym rats are dumb and women don't want gym rats'' they are lying to you. She will not fuck your niceness. She will fuck your body. So chisel your body, groom and wash it if you want a woman to desire it. Treating her well, niceness and fidelity is how you move from fuckboy zone into long term relationship zone.
You can't ''power-nice-guy'' your way out of the friend-zone, you need to make yourself fuckable first.
Or be ridiculously rich and land a gold digger. But that dosen't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet, not you.
I agree with a lot of this and it's also why I moved away from dating.
You say "it doesn't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet" I agree as well. But it also doesn't feel good to know she doesn't want who I am. As someone who fluctuated wildly thru school and afterwards and has settled pretty fit atp, I became greatly disillusioned with women as a whole.
I was a fat kid and was bullied for it, hit puberty and trimmed up, and it stopped. I had some depression issues relating to ADHD meds I took in middle school and that fattened me up again, and the bullying recommenced. I trimmed up again with Rugby in high school. Fattened up again when the sports stopped. I've finally mostly regulated myself and am in a good spot, not as good as when I was a starting Prop but whatever.
I tell you the most hate and bullying I got was from women. I had guys "bully" me for weight, but really most of it was the guys trying to get me to be ashamed and get right, tho I couldn't help it at times like with medication. The women went from being attracted to treating me like I didn't exist or was inhuman scum, and back again. It was insane. The men didn't do that. It was just ribbing and pushing me to get better. They still were my friends or acquaintances, talked to me.
Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but more power to you. I can't anymore. Seeing it happen in real time how women dehumanize you and go psychotically cold toward you based on attraction levels was nutty. Made me very wary of them.
I got bullied and had zero people show sexual interest in me too. The bullying largely died-down when we teenagers matured, and by strictly sticking to : shut up if you have nothing nice to say about people, no matter the context or who is there to hear it. That's for school. After school I didn't spend much time with people.
Yes people get more touchy and friendly when you get fit. ( Women doing those small random physical contacts during conversations. )
I was so spiteful of that when I was younger. ''Oh people are so shallow, I am a good person and I'm nice to people!'' Well humans ( me included ) are visual creatures hard-wired to find certain trait attractive and others repulsive to make them choose fit mates. Too bad. Resenting that won't change it.
So I put my energy into hobbies and I accepted humans aren't that complex : if you want to be sexually desired, make yourself sexually desirable on aspects under your control.
Some of my hobbies I can share with people, that's nice, but I'm only comfortable if the hobby is the center of attention, not other personal stuff normal people make small talk about.
I don't care that much for dating, so I don't date either. Not that anyone hit on me, and I never hit on anyone.
Still, getting fit alleviates depression. Pills didn't have a positive impact for me. Daily exercise did. People wanting to be friendly to you more is a bonus, but I'm a loner anyway.
I disagree that to win you have to become a cold, caring monster. There are women attracted to that and the "dark personality traits" but most just want a fit, confident mate at the end of the day. To "win", just go to the gym and fix your diet and confidence does follow when you get to a level of fitness and healthier eating.
Not just from the increased attraction you will recieve, but being a stronger physical person not subsiding on junk food helps bring it out.
I very much agree with this and hate how women and society keeps telling men the opposite.
It's completely understandable that a woman wouldn't want to fuck you if you're a chubby out of shape piece of shit. When you break it down to base animal kingdom level scrubbing away all the human social norms, you're showing that you're a bad potential mate with poor impulse control and no desire to improve. That's really the crux of it, like if you don't want to be in the friend-zone (And this applies to all social human relationships) go to the gym and cut down on the calories you consume.
She's a woman who complains about how she's always getting cat-called in the streets, as well as how she can never get a date. Schroedinger's sexiness in action, where she's both so attractive men can't keep their eyes off her, and yet will never give her the time of day.
5/10 is generous
I remember making a Reddit post about how a mid-looking woman demanding she get the best men possible is a dumb plot point and I got 30 downvotes and the top reply was: “the actress is clearly beautiful, you incel!”
Feminist characters never have any sense of duty or self sacrifice or humility.
Can we talk about Zelda from tears of the kingdom? She was a strong female character that sacrificed her humanity to help Link defeat Ganondorf. A female character that has self sacrificing and dutiful behavior .Where is this type of strong female character that has a sense of duty and self sacrifice in Hollywood feminist stories? there is none
No, you are to cease talking about Zelda immediately
Man, I'm really going to have to find some way to watch Frieren some time, aren't I...
it's a really good chill show. whether or not it's the best show is a matter of taste, but it has a clear goal of being chill and relaxing while simultaneously being adventurous, and executes on that phenomenally.
I recently saw Gunbuster for the very first time.
You want a strong female character done right? There you go.
All the character development you need in six episodes.
That final scene, man...
It's quite good. Definitely deserves the hype it gets.
I've at least been following a good chunk of the talk ever since "Minecraft yourself, Aura," and seeing some clips every now and then.
It's brilliant
Frieren is one of the very rare cases where Reddit losers loving a show isn't a bad thing, because it's genuinely that good.
I didn't like the first episodes of the ''immature yet stoic characters might as well be emotionless animated dolls'', but it gets alot better and I'd recommend it as ''good''.
I saw that she hulk clip and I remember thinking you could’ve just adapted the Byrne run and made lots of money
She’s lecturing a man who has done nothing but suffer for the good of mankind. Because she maybe got catcalled and/or disrespected at work a couple times.
And the shill critics thought it was good writing.
Because they have also never encountered any real hardship or responsibility they didn't run away from.
First episode of Supergirl : girlboss CEO tells Supergirl how unfair it is women have to work twice as hard for half the reward men get. ( ignore reality : muh disparate outcome, please ignore disparate effots/inputs and give wimminz superior outcomes. )
The ''hero'' is entirely self-absorbed and exclusively focussed on getting people and journalists to view her as the awesome kickass girlboss she thinks she is. Criticism is mysoginy. She cannot brush-off the parts of the criticism that is unwarranted : criticising wimminz has to stop. How do we make it stop and get the adulation going? : That's the plot of the episode.
Isn't this supposed to be a superhero show? Because they made a superEgo shitty feminist fanfiction.
I can't recall if I even finished the first episode before refusing to watch more of that garbage.
Everything Woke turns to shit.
I didn't even bother trying to watch She Hulk, as it was deliberately advertized as Feminist girbossing.
My dad and I watched the show. I rolled my eyes at the feminist talking points and stopped watching when the sister all of a sudden realized she was a lesbian. I enjoyed supergirl in the comic books (ones I read from early 00s and prior). Supergirl was one of the last newer shows I watched. It helped solidify my “don’t watch anything made after 2014” rule
I’m shocked they can think at all
so typical woman behaviors. realistic.
I know like 4 or 5 likeable mary sue characters made by Japanese people. Westerners cannot simply compete.
I've got a better example from anime