(X-0.5)/10 or above, where X is the level of attractiveness of the hotest guy who fucked her on a dating app.
That's a generalization of the the range a woman on a dating app is stuck at. Anything below, she will resent him because she is ''settling'', and will be looking for that X/10+ she thinks she can get to commit to her because she was fucked by one, once.
And considering a woman 4/10+ browsing the dating app daily likely got a 7, 8 or 9/10 to fuck her once, this explains why women rate 8/10 of men as ''below average'' ( whereas men rate women on a perfect bell curve of attractiveness ).
hoe_math explains very well how attraction works, how women become totally delusional about their value and men's value.
Also fairly telling men that investing in her ( time, kindness, money ) will not make her sexually desire you, you have to work on your appearance and get fit for women to desire you instead of friendzoning you.
When women and society give you the advice to ''just be nice'', ''just be yourself'', ''it's okay to be soft, chubby, gym rats are dumb and women don't want gym rats'' they are lying to you. She will not fuck your niceness. She will fuck your body. So chisel your body, groom and wash it if you want a woman to desire it. Treating her well, niceness and fidelity is how you move from fuckboy zone into long term relationship zone.
You can't ''power-nice-guy'' your way out of the friend-zone, you need to make yourself fuckable first.
Or be ridiculously rich and land a gold digger. But that dosen't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet, not you.
I agree with a lot of this and it's also why I moved away from dating.
You say "it doesn't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet"
I agree as well. But it also doesn't feel good to know she doesn't want who I am. As someone who fluctuated wildly thru school and afterwards and has settled pretty fit atp, I became greatly disillusioned with women as a whole.
I was a fat kid and was bullied for it, hit puberty and trimmed up, and it stopped. I had some depression issues relating to ADHD meds I took in middle school and that fattened me up again, and the bullying recommenced. I trimmed up again with Rugby in high school. Fattened up again when the sports stopped. I've finally mostly regulated myself and am in a good spot, not as good as when I was a starting Prop but whatever.
I tell you the most hate and bullying I got was from women. I had guys "bully" me for weight, but really most of it was the guys trying to get me to be ashamed and get right, tho I couldn't help it at times like with medication. The women went from being attracted to treating me like I didn't exist or was inhuman scum, and back again. It was insane. The men didn't do that. It was just ribbing and pushing me to get better. They still were my friends or acquaintances, talked to me.
Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but more power to you. I can't anymore. Seeing it happen in real time how women dehumanize you and go psychotically cold toward you based on attraction levels was nutty. Made me very wary of them.
I got bullied and had zero people show sexual interest in me too. The bullying largely died-down when we teenagers matured, and by strictly sticking to : shut up if you have nothing nice to say about people, no matter the context or who is there to hear it. That's for school. After school I didn't spend much time with people.
Yes people get more touchy and friendly when you get fit. ( Women doing those small random physical contacts during conversations. )
I was so spiteful of that when I was younger. ''Oh people are so shallow, I am a good person and I'm nice to people!'' Well humans ( me included ) are visual creatures hard-wired to find certain trait attractive and others repulsive to make them choose fit mates. Too bad. Resenting that won't change it.
So I put my energy into hobbies and I accepted humans aren't that complex : if you want to be sexually desired, make yourself sexually desirable on aspects under your control.
Some of my hobbies I can share with people, that's nice, but I'm only comfortable if the hobby is the center of attention, not other personal stuff normal people make small talk about.
I don't care that much for dating, so I don't date either. Not that anyone hit on me, and I never hit on anyone.
Still, getting fit alleviates depression. Pills didn't have a positive impact for me. Daily exercise did. People wanting to be friendly to you more is a bonus, but I'm a loner anyway.
I disagree that to win you have to become a cold, caring monster. There are women attracted to that and the "dark personality traits" but most just want a fit, confident mate at the end of the day. To "win", just go to the gym and fix your diet and confidence does follow when you get to a level of fitness and healthier eating.
Not just from the increased attraction you will recieve, but being a stronger physical person not subsiding on junk food helps bring it out.
I very much agree with this and hate how women and society keeps telling men the opposite.
It's completely understandable that a woman wouldn't want to fuck you if you're a chubby out of shape piece of shit. When you break it down to base animal kingdom level scrubbing away all the human social norms, you're showing that you're a bad potential mate with poor impulse control and no desire to improve. That's really the crux of it, like if you don't want to be in the friend-zone (And this applies to all social human relationships) go to the gym and cut down on the calories you consume.
(X-0.5)/10 or above, where X is the level of attractiveness of the hotest guy who fucked her on a dating app.
That's a generalization of the the range a woman on a dating app is stuck at. Anything below, she will resent him because she is ''settling'', and will be looking for that X/10+ she thinks she can get to commit to her because she was fucked by one, once.
And considering a woman 4/10+ browsing the dating app daily likely got a 7, 8 or 9/10 to fuck her once, this explains why women rate 8/10 of men as ''below average'' ( whereas men rate women on a perfect bell curve of attractiveness ).
hoe_math explains very well how attraction works, how women become totally delusional about their value and men's value.
Also fairly telling men that investing in her ( time, kindness, money ) will not make her sexually desire you, you have to work on your appearance and get fit for women to desire you instead of friendzoning you.
When women and society give you the advice to ''just be nice'', ''just be yourself'', ''it's okay to be soft, chubby, gym rats are dumb and women don't want gym rats'' they are lying to you. She will not fuck your niceness. She will fuck your body. So chisel your body, groom and wash it if you want a woman to desire it. Treating her well, niceness and fidelity is how you move from fuckboy zone into long term relationship zone.
You can't ''power-nice-guy'' your way out of the friend-zone, you need to make yourself fuckable first.
Or be ridiculously rich and land a gold digger. But that dosen't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet, not you.
I agree with a lot of this and it's also why I moved away from dating.
You say "it doesn't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet" I agree as well. But it also doesn't feel good to know she doesn't want who I am. As someone who fluctuated wildly thru school and afterwards and has settled pretty fit atp, I became greatly disillusioned with women as a whole.
I was a fat kid and was bullied for it, hit puberty and trimmed up, and it stopped. I had some depression issues relating to ADHD meds I took in middle school and that fattened me up again, and the bullying recommenced. I trimmed up again with Rugby in high school. Fattened up again when the sports stopped. I've finally mostly regulated myself and am in a good spot, not as good as when I was a starting Prop but whatever.
I tell you the most hate and bullying I got was from women. I had guys "bully" me for weight, but really most of it was the guys trying to get me to be ashamed and get right, tho I couldn't help it at times like with medication. The women went from being attracted to treating me like I didn't exist or was inhuman scum, and back again. It was insane. The men didn't do that. It was just ribbing and pushing me to get better. They still were my friends or acquaintances, talked to me.
Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but more power to you. I can't anymore. Seeing it happen in real time how women dehumanize you and go psychotically cold toward you based on attraction levels was nutty. Made me very wary of them.
I got bullied and had zero people show sexual interest in me too. The bullying largely died-down when we teenagers matured, and by strictly sticking to : shut up if you have nothing nice to say about people, no matter the context or who is there to hear it. That's for school. After school I didn't spend much time with people.
Yes people get more touchy and friendly when you get fit. ( Women doing those small random physical contacts during conversations. )
I was so spiteful of that when I was younger. ''Oh people are so shallow, I am a good person and I'm nice to people!'' Well humans ( me included ) are visual creatures hard-wired to find certain trait attractive and others repulsive to make them choose fit mates. Too bad. Resenting that won't change it.
So I put my energy into hobbies and I accepted humans aren't that complex : if you want to be sexually desired, make yourself sexually desirable on aspects under your control.
Some of my hobbies I can share with people, that's nice, but I'm only comfortable if the hobby is the center of attention, not other personal stuff normal people make small talk about.
I don't care that much for dating, so I don't date either. Not that anyone hit on me, and I never hit on anyone.
Still, getting fit alleviates depression. Pills didn't have a positive impact for me. Daily exercise did. People wanting to be friendly to you more is a bonus, but I'm a loner anyway.
I disagree that to win you have to become a cold, caring monster. There are women attracted to that and the "dark personality traits" but most just want a fit, confident mate at the end of the day. To "win", just go to the gym and fix your diet and confidence does follow when you get to a level of fitness and healthier eating.
Not just from the increased attraction you will recieve, but being a stronger physical person not subsiding on junk food helps bring it out.
I very much agree with this and hate how women and society keeps telling men the opposite.
It's completely understandable that a woman wouldn't want to fuck you if you're a chubby out of shape piece of shit. When you break it down to base animal kingdom level scrubbing away all the human social norms, you're showing that you're a bad potential mate with poor impulse control and no desire to improve. That's really the crux of it, like if you don't want to be in the friend-zone (And this applies to all social human relationships) go to the gym and cut down on the calories you consume.