For some bizarre reason, the creator of this shit apparently insists that Irene Adler "chose to live as a man" in the original Conan-Doyle story...
There is zero evidence to back that up. Zero. And I have actually read the damn books... Everything in there suggests quite the opposite. Her character wouldn't even work, otherwise, given that her being a woman is the whole point of her being written in there...
Fuck I wish degenerates would cease to attempt to claim "historical legitimacy" by stealing away obviously straight, obviously "cis" historical characters and stories like this. That's just plain evil.
Like when Detective Conan/Case Closed came into being with a high school student detective gets drugged to be murdered but instead becomes an elementary kid with the same mental acuity as his older self who then gets adopted by his best friend's (A girl) detective father and continues to solves crimes loosely aligned with the Doyle stories.
Massively popular throughout Eastern Asia with children but pap in relation to the actual canon.
Same goes for The Great Mouse Detective, Bravestarr and the spin-off Sherlock Holmes in the 23rd Century, Young Sherlock Holmes, Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother, modern BBC Sherlock and a whole slew of other small screen and silver screen productions and has been going on for a long time in radio and books too.
And then of course there are all the video games.
I take it as being a soft entry into the proper canon and lore, but there are the odd stories (Like The Seven-Per-Cent Solution or others involving Lupin or Raffles, etc.) which play nicely with the whole thing.
The core canon is the canon, but sometimes there are reasonably decent fan fictions which are liked, but will never be more than associated through talent and never accepted as central to the true crucible of the creation.
It's all just fun really, even weird Japanese stuff!
My colleague Sebastian Moran is peeking at you as we speak. And I'm sure that were you to check for your .455 cartridges you thought were loaded into your pistol you'd notice a street urchin helped relieve you of them as you entered.
Now, the shipments of wool I asked you to come see me about...
Tbh this how fiction SHOULD be able to be handled, and is the core of why IP law is the devil.
This is my hill, but the modern form of storytelling belonging to the author is
Brand fucking new
Ass Fucking Backwards
The worst.
Corporate bullshit.
Oral tradition and storytelling tradition for all of human history has been derivative and spiraling. Nobody ever got fined for telling a variant on the Thesues myth. And the same thing holds today.
Cause some corporate suit fucks paid Lucas a bazillion dollars now the men with guns will stop you from playing pretend too good in THEIR way. This is THEIR PRETEND! WE OWN THESE THOUGHTS.
You'll never convince me that any of that makes sense.
Fuck two of my favorite pieces of writing are respectively Calvin and Hobbes fanfic and a Harry Potter one.
And Astartes is better than anything Amazon and Cavil will produce. And guess what? Suck it. He played pretend better than you did.
Not a big fanfiction fan but I'm with you and would go as far as saying "death of the author" is a good thing - just not as it's typically used, as a rationalization of leftist cultural subversion. It's not so much that there shouldn't be respect for the overall canon or integrity of a story, but that at the end of the day it's us fans who decide what to accept as canon.
If some weirdo writes a Kirk and Spock gay slash fanfic, most of us pay it no mind and it's forgotten. If someone produces a really good Star Trek spinoff series, we can accept that into the lore and include it in future stories. It shouldn't matter if Paramount suits approved the series or not. We decide.
One day a blow up at fanfiction made a making of a reading no more.
Oh no! say m0r1arty and made a making of account. We no let you write!! say fanfiction, you have two day to harvest first – HAHAHA.
m0r1arty danubed over to Google and made a searching of the internet. Oh no! scream all of fandom over the world who will make a typing of the stories? The moon and the sun making of a peace and god made agreed. We need a policing of the fanfiction boomed god and sent angel police who danubed through the windows a make a shooting of the servers.
Suddenly the stories make a real. The demons made a goings of this say Sherlock as he use riding crop on aliens. It not lupis say House as he step out of house so I am a biking with Wilson now bye bye. Rose made a chomping on Doctor hand Yum, yum I am a raptoring she say before Predator say hunting time for hunting and laser her with shoulder laser. The carebears kill predator with love rainbows from the bodies. John Lennon made of a crying and tears ressurected predator and Rose. Liverpol say the Beatles and Abba agree and hive five everybody. Suddenly the gravity danubed away and lifted the reality curtain. Oh no says Pip I am making of an observation sadly no more nature goggles. We all are imaginings yell Stephen Hawking which upset god. I should have been a goodly say devil as he vanish into nothing. MissingNo sighed as Sweden said goodly bye to the last bromine. A pirate makes a teardrop.
Suddenly all of fandom held their breath and made a not knowing of future…
The manga is called Moriarty the Patriot. It's some "askshully what if Moriarty was the good guy" and grafts James Bond fanfiction onto the Sherlock Holmes fanfiction. It pretty much gives no fucks about canon and yes, it's saying the character is trans.
What I saw of it, it reads like “trans man wish fulfillment”…
But also, the fans insist that she isn’t actually trans, and is really just a bisexual crossdresser taking advantage of the situation…
Which… Makes me hate the wiki even more, I guess..?
Female crossdressers, while ick, are far less ick than what the wiki implies… Or indeed, people in general (so women and trannies, mainly) who insist that “deadnaming” is a real thing, lol.
Irene Adler, yes. That is to say, the one prominent woman in the original novels (and I wouldn’t say she is particularly “prominent”, there, either, as she only features *once)…
Who Conan-Doyle marries off (to a man, obviously, lol) and sends away to a different country, by the end, anyway, lol.
But yeah, Irene Adler. So… Rachel McAdams in the movies, or Natalie Dormer in Elementary (sort of).
Ohh. Ok. I read the come Sherlock stories a long time ago and now vaguely remember. So I take it that manga isn’t good or it’s other people pushing this crap
Based as in there are characters who are smart and share names from with the lexicon of Holmes. But that's about it. Think of knock-off t-shirts that have a band you like's name on them but nothing to do with the actual band or their art being the name.
It's such a long list of adaptations bastardizing the character of Irene Adler. She is a woman who gets married to her beloved in the Sherlock Holmes story, and almost every adaptation since has tied to make her a villain or in love with Holmes or both. Godfrey Norton is pretty much forgotten.
However iirc Moriarty the Patriot plays about as fast and loose with the canon material as they do with the English language making word vomit for their J-Pop songs.
Destiny from X-Men is literally named Irene Adler. Mystique shapeshifted into Sherlock Holmes to be the face of things while Destiny simply used her precog powers to solve everything.
This is despite the fact "the real" Sherlock Holmes somehow still also existed.
European Literary Classics are often perverted and twisted in Japanese media, simply because they've used them so many times its the only way to not outright copy someone.
I mean, just look at what SMT has done to basically every mythology or religion in existence.
I'm not saying its a cool thing to do, but I'm far less offended by it when its in an "equal opportunity" manner as Japan is about these things.
So, like with a lot of interpretations of Japanese gender weirdness, is this just Adler who faked her own death and is pretending to be a man for some plot? Like, literally just a disguise? Because so much of this shit keeps getting blown up by tranny lunatics in the West, when the actual Japanese version is just crossdressing, and has nothing to do with "gender" at all.
The wiki claims that the author of the manga made the “Irene Adler is trans in the original” comments as justification for the character’s existence, lol…
If it were just some weird obscure fan fiction (because sadly Holmes is now public domain anyway, so anyone can do anything with it, pretty much), then I wouldn’t give a shit, but that is not what the author claims…
For some bizarre reason, the creator of this shit apparently insists that Irene Adler "chose to live as a man" in the original Conan-Doyle story...
There is zero evidence to back that up. Zero. And I have actually read the damn books... Everything in there suggests quite the opposite. Her character wouldn't even work, otherwise, given that her being a woman is the whole point of her being written in there...
Fuck I wish degenerates would cease to attempt to claim "historical legitimacy" by stealing away obviously straight, obviously "cis" historical characters and stories like this. That's just plain evil.
I think it's just Japanese silliness personally.
Like when Detective Conan/Case Closed came into being with a high school student detective gets drugged to be murdered but instead becomes an elementary kid with the same mental acuity as his older self who then gets adopted by his best friend's (A girl) detective father and continues to solves crimes loosely aligned with the Doyle stories.
Massively popular throughout Eastern Asia with children but pap in relation to the actual canon.
Same goes for The Great Mouse Detective, Bravestarr and the spin-off Sherlock Holmes in the 23rd Century, Young Sherlock Holmes, Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother, modern BBC Sherlock and a whole slew of other small screen and silver screen productions and has been going on for a long time in radio and books too.
And then of course there are all the video games.
I take it as being a soft entry into the proper canon and lore, but there are the odd stories (Like The Seven-Per-Cent Solution or others involving Lupin or Raffles, etc.) which play nicely with the whole thing.
The core canon is the canon, but sometimes there are reasonably decent fan fictions which are liked, but will never be more than associated through talent and never accepted as central to the true crucible of the creation.
It's all just fun really, even weird Japanese stuff!
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looks at comment
slowly withdraws Webley from coat pocket
Keep your hands in the open, old chap, don't want any trouble to occur...
There will be no trouble, I can assure you.
My colleague Sebastian Moran is peeking at you as we speak. And I'm sure that were you to check for your .455 cartridges you thought were loaded into your pistol you'd notice a street urchin helped relieve you of them as you entered.
Now, the shipments of wool I asked you to come see me about...
I think we can trust Moriarty on his take here
Thanks.
Know that I've got your back on carbon based nanotech superconductors if it ever comes up ;)
In this specific context? Absolutely not
Tbh this how fiction SHOULD be able to be handled, and is the core of why IP law is the devil.
This is my hill, but the modern form of storytelling belonging to the author is
Brand fucking new
Ass Fucking Backwards
The worst.
Corporate bullshit.
Oral tradition and storytelling tradition for all of human history has been derivative and spiraling. Nobody ever got fined for telling a variant on the Thesues myth. And the same thing holds today.
Cause some corporate suit fucks paid Lucas a bazillion dollars now the men with guns will stop you from playing pretend too good in THEIR way. This is THEIR PRETEND! WE OWN THESE THOUGHTS.
You'll never convince me that any of that makes sense.
Fuck two of my favorite pieces of writing are respectively Calvin and Hobbes fanfic and a Harry Potter one.
And Astartes is better than anything Amazon and Cavil will produce. And guess what? Suck it. He played pretend better than you did.
Not a big fanfiction fan but I'm with you and would go as far as saying "death of the author" is a good thing - just not as it's typically used, as a rationalization of leftist cultural subversion. It's not so much that there shouldn't be respect for the overall canon or integrity of a story, but that at the end of the day it's us fans who decide what to accept as canon.
If some weirdo writes a Kirk and Spock gay slash fanfic, most of us pay it no mind and it's forgotten. If someone produces a really good Star Trek spinoff series, we can accept that into the lore and include it in future stories. It shouldn't matter if Paramount suits approved the series or not. We decide.
About 12 years go my favourite (And only) fanfic writer was deleted from FanFiction.net for no discerning reason. I wrote my only fan fiction in memory of him 11 years ago:
Making of a sadly
One day a blow up at fanfiction made a making of a reading no more.
Oh no! say m0r1arty and made a making of account. We no let you write!! say fanfiction, you have two day to harvest first – HAHAHA.
m0r1arty danubed over to Google and made a searching of the internet. Oh no! scream all of fandom over the world who will make a typing of the stories? The moon and the sun making of a peace and god made agreed. We need a policing of the fanfiction boomed god and sent angel police who danubed through the windows a make a shooting of the servers.
Suddenly the stories make a real. The demons made a goings of this say Sherlock as he use riding crop on aliens. It not lupis say House as he step out of house so I am a biking with Wilson now bye bye. Rose made a chomping on Doctor hand Yum, yum I am a raptoring she say before Predator say hunting time for hunting and laser her with shoulder laser. The carebears kill predator with love rainbows from the bodies. John Lennon made of a crying and tears ressurected predator and Rose. Liverpol say the Beatles and Abba agree and hive five everybody. Suddenly the gravity danubed away and lifted the reality curtain. Oh no says Pip I am making of an observation sadly no more nature goggles. We all are imaginings yell Stephen Hawking which upset god. I should have been a goodly say devil as he vanish into nothing. MissingNo sighed as Sweden said goodly bye to the last bromine. A pirate makes a teardrop.
Suddenly all of fandom held their breath and made a not knowing of future…
I want my 300 QP back, that Evil Testament tome was a total ripoff.
The story is based on a Sherlock Holmes story? They are flat out saying a character is trans?
The manga is called Moriarty the Patriot. It's some "askshully what if Moriarty was the good guy" and grafts James Bond fanfiction onto the Sherlock Holmes fanfiction. It pretty much gives no fucks about canon and yes, it's saying the character is trans.
Ohh. Ok. Well that’s enough for me not to want to read it. I’d rather read those books about Sherlock’s younger sister
What I saw of it, it reads like “trans man wish fulfillment”…
But also, the fans insist that she isn’t actually trans, and is really just a bisexual crossdresser taking advantage of the situation…
Which… Makes me hate the wiki even more, I guess..?
Female crossdressers, while ick, are far less ick than what the wiki implies… Or indeed, people in general (so women and trannies, mainly) who insist that “deadnaming” is a real thing, lol.
Irene Adler, yes. That is to say, the one prominent woman in the original novels (and I wouldn’t say she is particularly “prominent”, there, either, as she only features *once)…
Who Conan-Doyle marries off (to a man, obviously, lol) and sends away to a different country, by the end, anyway, lol.
But yeah, Irene Adler. So… Rachel McAdams in the movies, or Natalie Dormer in Elementary (sort of).
Ohh. Ok. I read the come Sherlock stories a long time ago and now vaguely remember. So I take it that manga isn’t good or it’s other people pushing this crap
Based as in there are characters who are smart and share names from with the lexicon of Holmes. But that's about it. Think of knock-off t-shirts that have a band you like's name on them but nothing to do with the actual band or their art being the name.
Maybe it's time to make all gay bi and trans people straight.
Revision us some history.
It's such a long list of adaptations bastardizing the character of Irene Adler. She is a woman who gets married to her beloved in the Sherlock Holmes story, and almost every adaptation since has tied to make her a villain or in love with Holmes or both. Godfrey Norton is pretty much forgotten.
However iirc Moriarty the Patriot plays about as fast and loose with the canon material as they do with the English language making word vomit for their J-Pop songs.
Moriarty is the good guy, it doesn't get much more fast and loose than that.
I know, right!
But either of his two brothers who share his name could be...but I've no idea if the manga/anime takes them into consideration.
If you want, I can add one more you'll wish you didn't know about.
Sigh Do it
Destiny from X-Men is literally named Irene Adler. Mystique shapeshifted into Sherlock Holmes to be the face of things while Destiny simply used her precog powers to solve everything.
This is despite the fact "the real" Sherlock Holmes somehow still also existed.
Nobody expects /fur. But the way the internet is, they probably should.
European Literary Classics are often perverted and twisted in Japanese media, simply because they've used them so many times its the only way to not outright copy someone.
I mean, just look at what SMT has done to basically every mythology or religion in existence.
I'm not saying its a cool thing to do, but I'm far less offended by it when its in an "equal opportunity" manner as Japan is about these things.
Zombie Land Saga and its consequences have been a disaster for the manga/anime industry.
i think Hetalia popularized this type of content with bishonen Allies and Axis countries
Hetalia had none of this "validate me or else" bullshit.
So, like with a lot of interpretations of Japanese gender weirdness, is this just Adler who faked her own death and is pretending to be a man for some plot? Like, literally just a disguise? Because so much of this shit keeps getting blown up by tranny lunatics in the West, when the actual Japanese version is just crossdressing, and has nothing to do with "gender" at all.
Yes. Like, literally. But the wiki insists otherwise (despite contradicting itself while doing so), because of course it does…
I hate it. These people are insufferable.
I mean this isn't Canon at all. At worst it's published fanfiction, at best it's an au. Just ignore it?
That's the exact mindset I take with disney Star Wars.
The wiki claims that the author of the manga made the “Irene Adler is trans in the original” comments as justification for the character’s existence, lol…
If it were just some weird obscure fan fiction (because sadly Holmes is now public domain anyway, so anyone can do anything with it, pretty much), then I wouldn’t give a shit, but that is not what the author claims…
I mean, they would be wrong. And Irene Adlers existence in the holmes mythology is so damn overstated anyway.