Can someone explain to me what “black coded” or “queer coded” means? I guess I’m a just getting older and way out of touch. A young cousin told me I was stuck in the 80s when she saw the stuff I was watching and I told her I can live with that
Basically: "These characters aren't black or gay, but we say they're written in a way where they're obviously meant to be interpreted in that way!"
Generally bullshit, especially in Current Year, but occasionally has some validity where the author/artist may have been doing an homage or making a point of some kind. But generally it's just insecure retards trying to claim something as "literally me."
Don't forget "I'm not imaginative enough to come up with unique races, ethnicities or characters, so this is a stereotypical ghetto black, but as a lizard"
To add to this if you don't know: 2 male characters interact or show any kind of friendship? Gay dudes. Instantly. Twitter will not bow to this. It's what turns me off of hero academia. ANY positive, male bonding gets turned into gay ships. It's even outside of anime, just look at what they try and claim for Frodo and Sam, honestly the best friendship in fiction if you ask me. And just like that those are now gay icons, ignore the fact the author was a devout Christian lol.
It means the characters display stereotypical black/ghetto attitudes and actions without be explicitly drawn black. I think the wildest one I heard was Daffy Duck was black.
I remember someone explaining to me that Daffy Duck was black because Bugs Bunny is white and always getting the better of Daffy. I asked him did you ever consider that Bugs Bunny is the face of Looney Tunes so naturally he will be the star? Or to put it in wrestling terms….,Hogan/Austin/Cena/Rock will most always stand tall at the end of a match
It's a woke PC friendly way of saying someone or thing is acting in a certain way, but it only ever works when said by woke idiots in the same vein that "People of Colour" is acceptable [for now], but "Coloured People" is not. I remember within the last couple of decades saying someone was acting gay, or black, or whatever would set someone off about how stereotypes are bad, but that's precisely what "coding" is under another label.
You know how the Saiyans in DBZ are literal fucking monkeys and were slaves? That means they are "black coded" in most discussions and is one of the most famous examples until Steven Universe came out.
In fact that example predates most of the internet and the people on it, when DaBlackGoku.com was made back in fucking 1999 because black kids liked DBZ that much. That's probably the origin point of "drawing cartoon characters with bling, money and other gangbanger shit" as well because it was full of that.
Speaking of, there was a line in a more recent DB cartoon where a random cop or something shouted at his men "Don't shoot, he's not Black!", where the capitalisation was actually important this time because it was referring to the character named Black Goku. I do wonder if that was some intention trolling by the writers who knew the translation would unsettle some.
That was from DBS and quite a lot of years ago now. It predates the "capitalize black" discourse by a chunk of time so it is just a happy funny how it worked out.
I love to bring up Goku as an example for representation. He's, as you stated a monkey man from outer space. He's not even human per se and yet everyone can identify with him, be it black people, white people, Asians obviously, everyone. We don't need black people to represent, we need characters with great values like Goku who fights for what's right.
It seems like it's mostly political activists or women pushing for this. Actual men don't give a fuck, we can identify with anyone if the message is correct. Sorry for the tangent.
DBZ could probably do more for racial cohesion than any other discussion about race possible.
It has successfully brought together latino, black, white, and Asian boys (no idea about the Arabs) on a single thing they all love and can find common ground on. Like pure passion and friendship over watching Gogeta appear in a movie where a fucking skinny weeb and a hardened gang banger will be arm in arm.
Shit, static shock is still one of my favorite DC characters and not once as a kid did I ever wonder why his skin was different and why he didn’t look like me.
Despite what the rainbow death squad on X would tell you, I never once identified and related to a character because their skin color matched mine
Pretty much. If a white writes a story portraying a black as a gun-toting criminal thug, a gay as an obnoxious lisper, or a tranny as a sex-obsessed degenerate, then it's an offensive stereotype. When they portray themselves as all those things in their own stories or hell, out in the streets in front of crowds while broadcasting their activities all over the globe, it's "empowering."
Her defense is multiple comic artist head canon see the Turtles as black. Not even the artist who worked on the Turtles comic. It's just some rando's opinion treated as gospel
I'll always like that Knuckles was considered the "black one" of the Sonic crew because he was a tribal idiot who was easy to trick and had dreads. That was enough to start what is going on a 3 decade meme that even Sonic Team is in on to the point where all his music in SA2 was rap.
What you all need to understand about cartoon character, especially classic cartoon character, is that a lot of them were inserts for minority figure
Because it's New York and martial art.
I guess someone missed the day that they taught pluralization in school. Or is this a new part of ebonics, intentionally not pluralizing words to corrupt the language and be "cool"?
This is genuine advanced brain rot right here. Is she really gonna sit here and say that black people invented shoes and martial arts? Because…uh….they didn’t
Want to know a show where the main characters were black coded? Bat Boy the Musical. Yes it exists, and the group I worked with kept adding bits that made it quite obvious the town was black. The cast themselves were whiter than paint.
Can someone explain to me what “black coded” or “queer coded” means? I guess I’m a just getting older and way out of touch. A young cousin told me I was stuck in the 80s when she saw the stuff I was watching and I told her I can live with that
Basically: "These characters aren't black or gay, but we say they're written in a way where they're obviously meant to be interpreted in that way!"
Generally bullshit, especially in Current Year, but occasionally has some validity where the author/artist may have been doing an homage or making a point of some kind. But generally it's just insecure retards trying to claim something as "literally me."
Don't forget "I'm not imaginative enough to come up with unique races, ethnicities or characters, so this is a stereotypical ghetto black, but as a lizard"
Gotcha. Thanks!
Like when people say X-men was a “coded” discussion of the different approaches to the civil rights movement (prof x = mlk, magneto = malcolm x)
Stan Lee debunked that and ppl keep pushing it.
The modern writers are all in for that bullshit.
It's their special phrase for "they don't say it directly, but XXXX makes it completely obvious that they are."
You can also call it "the yaoi-shipping fangirl excuse."
Yaoi is shipping two male characters right?
To add to this if you don't know: 2 male characters interact or show any kind of friendship? Gay dudes. Instantly. Twitter will not bow to this. It's what turns me off of hero academia. ANY positive, male bonding gets turned into gay ships. It's even outside of anime, just look at what they try and claim for Frodo and Sam, honestly the best friendship in fiction if you ask me. And just like that those are now gay icons, ignore the fact the author was a devout Christian lol.
Correct
It means the characters display stereotypical black/ghetto attitudes and actions without be explicitly drawn black. I think the wildest one I heard was Daffy Duck was black.
I remember someone explaining to me that Daffy Duck was black because Bugs Bunny is white and always getting the better of Daffy. I asked him did you ever consider that Bugs Bunny is the face of Looney Tunes so naturally he will be the star? Or to put it in wrestling terms….,Hogan/Austin/Cena/Rock will most always stand tall at the end of a match
Well, apart from the ring around his neck his feet and his beak.....
It's a woke PC friendly way of saying someone or thing is acting in a certain way, but it only ever works when said by woke idiots in the same vein that "People of Colour" is acceptable [for now], but "Coloured People" is not. I remember within the last couple of decades saying someone was acting gay, or black, or whatever would set someone off about how stereotypes are bad, but that's precisely what "coding" is under another label.
Ah. I see.
You know how the Saiyans in DBZ are literal fucking monkeys and were slaves? That means they are "black coded" in most discussions and is one of the most famous examples until Steven Universe came out.
In fact that example predates most of the internet and the people on it, when DaBlackGoku.com was made back in fucking 1999 because black kids liked DBZ that much. That's probably the origin point of "drawing cartoon characters with bling, money and other gangbanger shit" as well because it was full of that.
Speaking of, there was a line in a more recent DB cartoon where a random cop or something shouted at his men "Don't shoot, he's not Black!", where the capitalisation was actually important this time because it was referring to the character named Black Goku. I do wonder if that was some intention trolling by the writers who knew the translation would unsettle some.
That was from DBS and quite a lot of years ago now. It predates the "capitalize black" discourse by a chunk of time so it is just a happy funny how it worked out.
I love to bring up Goku as an example for representation. He's, as you stated a monkey man from outer space. He's not even human per se and yet everyone can identify with him, be it black people, white people, Asians obviously, everyone. We don't need black people to represent, we need characters with great values like Goku who fights for what's right.
It seems like it's mostly political activists or women pushing for this. Actual men don't give a fuck, we can identify with anyone if the message is correct. Sorry for the tangent.
DBZ could probably do more for racial cohesion than any other discussion about race possible.
It has successfully brought together latino, black, white, and Asian boys (no idea about the Arabs) on a single thing they all love and can find common ground on. Like pure passion and friendship over watching Gogeta appear in a movie where a fucking skinny weeb and a hardened gang banger will be arm in arm.
And its about a bunch of alien monkeys.
Shit, static shock is still one of my favorite DC characters and not once as a kid did I ever wonder why his skin was different and why he didn’t look like me.
Despite what the rainbow death squad on X would tell you, I never once identified and related to a character because their skin color matched mine
Interesting. Thanks for the breakdown
So it’s only racist if white people mention stereotypes as truth?
Pretty much. If a white writes a story portraying a black as a gun-toting criminal thug, a gay as an obnoxious lisper, or a tranny as a sex-obsessed degenerate, then it's an offensive stereotype. When they portray themselves as all those things in their own stories or hell, out in the streets in front of crowds while broadcasting their activities all over the globe, it's "empowering."
"Damn black creatures"
-Shadow the hedgehog
The examples were a dude named White, Michael Jackson (who's skin turned white), and Egypt. I can't.
Her defense is multiple comic artist head canon see the Turtles as black. Not even the artist who worked on the Turtles comic. It's just some rando's opinion treated as gospel
I'll always like that Knuckles was considered the "black one" of the Sonic crew because he was a tribal idiot who was easy to trick and had dreads. That was enough to start what is going on a 3 decade meme that even Sonic Team is in on to the point where all his music in SA2 was rap.
God, I hate this ADHD style of editing. Can't even focus on her terrible points when there are no natural pauses like that.
These dummys just make shit up.
I guess someone missed the day that they taught pluralization in school. Or is this a new part of ebonics, intentionally not pluralizing words to corrupt the language and be "cool"?
This is genuine advanced brain rot right here. Is she really gonna sit here and say that black people invented shoes and martial arts? Because…uh….they didn’t
The only canonically black sonic character is knuckles: https://youtu.be/8rHGj_l2iVY?t=17
Although I can see the argument for sonic because he can run fast and drove his company out of business.
Edit: Sonic's family left Egypt in the exodus. He's actually blue-ish.
"Disgusting black creatures, get out of my sight!" Actual line from the Shadow the Hedgehog game.
-Complains about white people 'stealing culture'
-Uses Norman Rockwell painting Freedom of Speech in the background.
K.
Someone tell her to up the irony even further next time by using a picture of George Lincoln Rockwell instead.
Want to know a show where the main characters were black coded? Bat Boy the Musical. Yes it exists, and the group I worked with kept adding bits that made it quite obvious the town was black. The cast themselves were whiter than paint.