the Channel deaths "must be a wake up call to take decisive action"
I agree fully with him up to here.
including the provision of safe route for those fleeing war-torn countries.
And now disagree. The decisive action should be closing the borders, loudly and repeatedly announcing that the borders are closed, arresting the people in NGOs who are encouraging this activity and immediately deporting anyone who shows up illegally.
It's the "humanity as a single human body" version of slapping a kid's hand when they go to reach for a hot stove burner. Minor harm to prevent greater harm later.
Or it's the infinite trolley problem: Divert onto 5 people, or let it hit 1, but you see down the 1's track that it leads to a subsequent 5-1 trolley problem, but you see down that 1's track that it leads to a subsequent 5-1 trolley problem, but you see...
yeah but that would bring other problems aswell, just have some prisonships ready where you can put them and then drop them back in africa or syria where they come from. They will run out of money to pay smugglers at some point.
Its already harder if they cant pay smugglers anymore. But they can also build a few asylum centers in lybia there and anyone who wants to have asyl has to go there with a working passport. Should discourage enough to do the long journey.
Just shoot them and they'll stop endangering themselves. All it takes is one viral video of your nation defending itself against these invaders and they'll get the message.
Given the average person's lack of geographical knowledge, think I can convince some drone pilots that France is Yemen and the migrant boats are actually rebels trying to fuck with shipping?
SEND ALL THE REFUGEES TO ISRAEL
The war torn country France.
unironically yes
I agree fully with him up to here.
And now disagree. The decisive action should be closing the borders, loudly and repeatedly announcing that the borders are closed, arresting the people in NGOs who are encouraging this activity and immediately deporting anyone who shows up illegally.
War torn countries like... France?
Me too, fella. Me too.
UK government is to blame. If they didn't encourage this shit, then the freeloaders would stop trying.
Ironically, shooting a few would send a message that would prevent drownings like this.
It's the "humanity as a single human body" version of slapping a kid's hand when they go to reach for a hot stove burner. Minor harm to prevent greater harm later.
Or it's the infinite trolley problem: Divert onto 5 people, or let it hit 1, but you see down the 1's track that it leads to a subsequent 5-1 trolley problem, but you see down that 1's track that it leads to a subsequent 5-1 trolley problem, but you see...
yeah but that would bring other problems aswell, just have some prisonships ready where you can put them and then drop them back in africa or syria where they come from. They will run out of money to pay smugglers at some point.
No, not "wherever they came from".
They already escaped that place, they need to go somewhere much harder to leave so they can't just try it again.
Its already harder if they cant pay smugglers anymore. But they can also build a few asylum centers in lybia there and anyone who wants to have asyl has to go there with a working passport. Should discourage enough to do the long journey.
The ocean is pretty difficult to escape from.
Australian here. Get fucked!
They aren't paying for transport. NGOs have very deep pockets.
yeah those need their bankaccounts frozen too.
no thanks, there are millions coming not worth going into prison just to stop a few, that stuff needs to be shut down legally via politics
Just shoot them and they'll stop endangering themselves. All it takes is one viral video of your nation defending itself against these invaders and they'll get the message.
I had no idea that France was currently war-torn.
"Gaia Theory" suggests the planet wanted these parasites to drown 🤡🌍
Sucks to suck, I don't feel bad. I think all the boats should get sunk.
Obviously you laugh at them when they die during the invasion attempt.
Discussions on reddit were 99.9% AGAINST the illegal invaders -
So somebody locked the discussion :
https://old.reddit.com/r/england/comments/196d1m9/four_migrants_die_trying_to_cross_english_channel/
Any way to see who or why?
Given the average person's lack of geographical knowledge, think I can convince some drone pilots that France is Yemen and the migrant boats are actually rebels trying to fuck with shipping?
There were people looking for tanks in the US when it was reported Russia was invading Georgia some years ago, it wouldn't take much convincing.
No surprise. They do that here in America too
And by the same group of people running the organizations too.
More dead foreigners? Good. Stop invading.
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It is glorifying incidental death, not so much violence. Violence is interpersonal in nature.
All I can think about is that episode of top gear where they crossed the channel with cars.
we need more of this
Why would you even try to do that during winter, thats hard enough in summer.
Making a strong case for more widely held and strongly felt racism.
UK is off to control the Red Sea, when they can't even control the english channel.
Do we need some kind of "internet 101" post or something? You really need to use archives for sites like the BBC, all of the time.
https://archive.ph/w9GMT