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Discord is laying off 17 percent of employees (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by RoccoRatchet 2 years ago by RoccoRatchet +45 / -0
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– -Fender- 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

Discord is a tool that is already fine the way it is. It does not require more features, it only needs to maintain performance to remain dominant in its niche. It requires no moderation whatsoever. Why did they have such an over-abundance of workforce that they can just casually sack more than a sixth of them?

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– I_Bent_My_Wookiee 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

They need people to monitor for "no-no" words...

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– truenationalist 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

Discord's staff is busily developing AI censorship tools for normal gamers while trying to groom children into gay sexual abuse and genital mutilation.

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– voidposter 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

They're probably replacing all the tranny jannies with AI

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– RoccoRatchet [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Why did they have such an over-abundance of workforce that they can just casually sack more than a sixth of them?

I'd like to believe that it was because fluff positions are being cut, with unskilled troons and diversity hires being let go. The social programs and "transitioning benefits" Discord offers are netting any sort of positive return for them. We'll see in the next few months if companies have learned anything, or if they're trimming down to slow the hemorrhaging while still pushing the nonsense that put them in this position in the first place.

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– covok48 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It’s still functional; just retarded.

Skype became 100% non-functional after a few years.

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– JuanTitor 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Skype got purchased by Microsoft, right? I'm thinking that was about the time it sucked; did it start sucking because Microsoft added all their spyware bloat, or did it suck before they purchased it?

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– raptor_jesus 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

For tech startups, hiring signifies growth which attracts investors. It's ass-backwards but how it works, so by growing small startups get more capital to run on, even if it makes it less efficient. That said, that's for startups seeking investors and I don't know if discord ever cut any fat from that period.

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– Gizortnik 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

This was the 17% that weren't furries I assume.

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– FrozeInFear 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I presumed feds. May also be a distinction without a difference.

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– GhostBond 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I've always wondered if the fact that any fbi/cia/whatever assets were supposed to infiltrate orgs, the easiest back story would be to claim to be trans/furry/whatever.

With work from home you wouldn't even see your coworkers most of the time - occasionally you'd need to do something over zoom. What's the lowest effort disguise you could wear? Pretending to be the other gender.

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– RoccoRatchet [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

As I said in a previous comment, it's too soon to tell who was let go. They have to make the choice between profitability and diversity. We'll find out in the coming months based on the kind of things that are posted on their social media accounts.

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– BetterNameUnfound 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I know you're joking, but I've met some of my best friends there.

Far more than I ever did when I had Twitter, anyway.

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– GhostBond 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

One could be optimistic and hope that furry crowd was the ones they cut.

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– MLGS 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Elon fired 75% of the staff at Twitter and the service massively improved. They've got a ways to go.

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– DemolitionsPanda 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The important thing is to fire the right 75%.

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– RoccoRatchet [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I don't disagree, but Discord isn't anywhere near as big. Twitter had considerable bloat to contend with. I'm not sure how much Discord is left with after their recent culling of around 170 employees.

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– deleted 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0
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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

yep, the business model of "become valuable so we get bought out" seems to be going the way of the dodo. good riddance.

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– when_we_win_remember 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Oh i think it will come back. It is profitable.

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– BoberFett 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Especially when the Fed cuts rates deep this year in a bid to save Biden.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The money is fake money. These companies are fake companies with fake valuations. Everything is fake, and that's not gonna change.

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– DemolitionsPanda 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Venture Capital Investment, in general, destroys the value of a company.

The VC model, more or less, goes like this:

  • Identify a company with explosive growth potential
  • Buy in on the ground floor to gain a big slice of equity at a low price
  • The company uses that investment money to improve their market position
  • The company is sold to a huge company for the cost of the VC investment plus a whole lot, which gives the VC company excellent returns

In reality, VC needs to achieve returns that are better than other, comparable investments. While there are inconsistencies in the market, a simple indexed fund can make about 10% year on year with (relatively) low risk and (relatively) low cost.

So it follows that VC needs an investment to make better than 10% year on year. Few companies can make anything like this as sustained growth. Moreover, the longer the investment continues before a sale the more money the VC requires to meet their target.

There are really only a few big companies who have the kind of funds to splash around on new technology acquisitions. If you can't catch the attention of Google, Microsoft, GM or the like, then a high value sale is very unlikely.

With a bit of thought, we can see that the business model of a company that has received a large VC investment is totally different to another company in the field. VC company isn't focused on good service, steady growth or customer satisfaction; they need the company to grow quickly and be very attractive for a buyout. Their product is actually the company itself, and the market is potential investors, not whatever widgets or services they sell to the public.

The reality is that VC adds a huge expense to any potential company sale. VC puts enormous pressure on the company to sell out in two or five years. There is huge, cutthroat competition to sell to the tech giants or industry leaders.

Profitable startups that have received VC investment and then gone on to sale and success, more or less, originate with YCombinator and nowhere else. Even then, almost all YCombinator alumni have been zombie companies. That is, companies that subsist on VC investment but do not have a successful business model.

If it interests you, I can discuss why VC almost universally makes shitty investments.

Examples of YCombinator Zombie Companies include Reddit and Twitch. In fact, almost everything on the top 50 list of YCombinator companies is a Zombie company. Perhaps AirBnB is profitable now? They were having huge issues with insurance, but that might be solved.

I'm happy to discuss this more if anyone cares. I spent literally a year of my life learning about VC investment and how to chase it before deciding it was mostly shit.

tldr: Venture Capital Investment is a shitty business model. Bankers and accountants, who know nothing about the technical risks of a venture, invest vast amounts of money chasing one-in-a-million long-shot because Facebook did it once. Almost all VC money is invested badly and written off as a loss.

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– deleted 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0
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– TheRealLiszt 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Not ESG directly, just an outcome of the near 0% interest rates and QE practices the Fed has kept rolling along for years. If you can get billions of dollars in loans that you only have to pay back at pennies on the dollar, that is basically free money.

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– RadiateTonight 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

The other parts of the western world were doing it too and wrecking normal peoples savings, other businesses etc.

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– Wizardslayer 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Not ESG just weird start ups that knew how to exploit venture capitalists until they couldn't anymore. Things like HQ Trivia which literally had no ability to generate revenue lasting for years by going "well we have so much marketing data!" And then ran out of suckers willing to buy into the company.

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– GhostBond 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I feel like ESG was ironically intended to be some sort of counter to the tradition of companies outsourcing everything to other countries and burning and churning through employees.

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– GhostBond 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

hired like crazy during COVID

This is the official propagandy narrative, in my experience it was mostly just outsourcing to other continents.

New manager would come in, move the work over to a remote consulting company they were associated with, then start firing/laying off people.

In retrospect maybe I should have seen if I could have done that myself I bet the kickbaccks from the overseas consulting companies were notable. You'll end up without a job either way might as well cash in on it.

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– Norenia 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

And from really big virtue signaling companies too.

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– deleted 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0
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– HallucinatoryBeing 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I still don't know what "owner's equivalent rent" is, but it sounds like made-up bullshit to dilute actual rent increases.

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– BoberFett 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Every part of official CPI is designed to hide inflation.

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– LauriThorne 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's what it sounds like. It's the rent that would be equal to the overall cost of owning a home.

Basically they use it to say that if renting an apartment costs $700 a month with utilities it's better to rent than to own a home with a $600 mortgage and $300 in utilities and upkeep.

Basically it's a "you will own nothing and be happy" cope.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The fact that MSNBC spent the last couple weeks of 2023 literally screaming how a recession was effectively impossible, and that people who believed that a recession needed to prove their case; shows that their job was to get everybody's gullible money into positions to off-load at the peak of prices, before everything went to shit.

I don't think anyone's getting out of this one.

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– Lurker404 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Yea, in the last few days it was Twitch, Disney and now Discord. All about 15-20% IIRC. Did I miss someone?

The world is healing ... or something :D

Edit: Unity too, 25%

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