Hate religion because it's anti science
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90% of statistics are complete bullshit.
Scientists agree with whoever's paying them, which happens to be the government most of the time.
The "98% of climate scientists agree climate change is real" was an actual real stat. But it's still lacking context.
It was that 98% agreed with the data that had been collected at that time, but there was no theory or explanation that they all had agreed on. Iirc, it was less than 2% that actually subscribed to the mainstream "man-made climate change over the last century that will melt the ice caps in 60 days" narrative.
It was from the foreword of a book from some prominent looney climate activist that the msm took and ran with.
I know I'm pretty useless without links but surely some body will remember what I'm talking about.
edit - Ok nvm I got the links Here
It comes from an Obama tweet from 2013. And despite climate scientists triggering an immediate gag reflex from anybody sane, the actual most consistent consensus among them was that climate change was "real" (as in, the miniscule average temperature rise as depicted in the data is real) but that the burning of fossil fuels was still necessary, especially if this was the only impact it had. They actually had the opposite opinion of the people pushing the narrative.
You should have made it >100% to really hammer home the point.
That has the same absurdity of "This statement is false."
But you are right. Too many factors tend to poison the well for accurate data. Half the time the people taking it are just taking the piss and going for the silliest answer.
Interesting how it started to give total numbers when the percentage would have looked too small to be impactful for the fearmongering. 22 million is about 6 percent by the way, and even that high I have my doubts.
I noticed that too. 22 million sounds like a lot if you're an idiot who doesn't understand proportionality. They're clearly banking on their audience being stupid when they do things like that
Also, who the fuck cares if someone believes in the moon landing? Does my mechanic need to be on the same page as me vis a vis space flights that happened long before either of us were born? Does it affect how well he fixes my car? How could it possibly matter?
Yup, it's important to keep in mind that there are people out there so challenged that they literally can't grasp the concept of 'per capita,' even if you explain it multiple times.
How would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast?
"but I did have breakfast"
Frankly, I think that "fake moon landing" shit is coming from fucking China. They're so fucking jealous that they can't be first, they need to sow doubt amongst the dumbfucked young that it couldn't have happened because "shitty computers".
I'll just go in order here.
I love how they shittalk creationism. I know a lot of creationists also don't believe in evolution, so I admit this is a bit of a dodge, but still, if you believe in a higher power, He was probably at least somewhat involved in, you know, you existing. Yeah, God created us and this world. That's not "anti-science" exactly. It's not anti-evolution. Both can be true.
Humans haven't changed since their creation...never fucking heard of that until this bullshit. Moving on.
Angels are cool. Fite me, Satan.
What percent of scientists believe in the big bang theory?
Climate change is predominately a hoax.
1 in 4 believe that the sun revolves around the Earth...I don't fucking believe you.
Moon landing was at the very least a little suspect, and highly convenient. And they lost all the evidence. "Whoops, we overwrote that historical record with porn or whatever." And can't explain how they did the landing. And are making a big show of doing it "again"...over seventy years later. If the moon landing wasn't fake, the governments/scientists/Experts™ are even more retarded than I assumed.
Lizard people. I love how for both the moon and lizard people, they shift from percentage to raw numbers. That's, what, three percent? And the Lizard Truthers™ are still closer to the truth than if you believe the Most Popular Elected President Ever is running the show.
I hate these bullshitters. As someone who does believe in the scientific method, I see Science™ misused more often than not. Fuck 'em. Want to be taken seriously? Act serious.
This is basically just chronic libtards whining about people not believing their word is gospel. Go away now.
A great deal of effort and money has been spent over the generations to make us all believe that religion and science are mutually exclusive.
I've always believed that they can be complementary to each other
Many of the greatest minds in history believed in God and studied His world to better understand His mindset as a Creator. Ironically, I see a lot more blind faith in people who believe Academia to have all the answers.
Religion is necessary for science, period.
Science can only operate under the moral principal that Truth is the ultimate principal, which is a religious belief, mainly from Christianity, which is why most early scientists were Christian.
The way I see it, faith is an attempt to understand Truth by understanding God, while science has the same goal, but is focused on understanding God's works.
You know that 'climate change' poll question was asked super-weasely. Everyone knows the climate changes, assholes. We just don't believe eating bugs and living in shipping containers will change it for the better.
source: my ass
The moon landing being faked always surprises me in how many Americans believe that more than Russians since the Soviet Union ACKNOWLEDGED they happened at the time. Not to mention there's mirrors placed on the moon from the landings so we can measure distance with lasers on Earth.
Anyway non of this is the issue, the issue is science is not that convincing anymore especially since it's been used as a mouth piece for political and ideological authoritarianism than as an institution solely focused on advancing knowledge and development.
The argument against that is the soviets might have arranged a deal to acknowledge it and the reflectors placed some other way.
nah moon landing was fake fite me
I'm only half kidding, too. There do seem to be a lot of holes in the official story. I'm not a moon truther or anything, but it is odd that the government was seemingly even more inept than even I would usually expect from them, in the wake of the landing.
EDIT: Come on, they erased the tape of their greatest accomplishment, to save a few bucks! Imagine you made an amazing goal/touchdown, are you going to just record over that because you can't go and buy another cassette?
Put it this way, do you think:
A: America by some fluke managed to do the moon landings despite so many setbacks and haven't been back because of the costs and no clear plan after like setting up permanent facilities
Or B: the inept American government managed to fool the world INCLUDING their biggest Cold War rival into believing they landed on the moon.
I'm way more into camp A not just on evidence but to pull of deceiving EVERYONE is out of America's skillset, they can't convince people JFK wasn't assassinated by the CIA how can they fake a moon landing?
I don't think your A and B are mutually exclusive.
When they were on the moon, retroreflectors were set up. With a sufficiently powerful and precisely aimed laser, you can get the beam reflected back at you. It's undeniable humans landed on the moon.
-- however --
I do believe there is no way in hell that, at the time, they would air that live on television. The propaganda hit if the mission failed would have been too great, especially in the face of the soviets.
Ok so humans did land on the moon you just believe that they faked the first landing.
That's at least more reasonable, I'm more bewildered by the ones that flatly deny it. I get the impression from some that if Elon did get us to Mars (he's more likely out if the current space agencies) they'd be denying it even on the spacecraft there.
That's really the crux of the issue. They're so fucking incompetent that it almost works in their favor. It's just the status quo. Seriously muddies the waters.
For the record, I don't go hard on the whole moon landing thing, one way or the other. It's a relative nonissue, and doesn't affect my life one way or the other if it did happen. But there are questions. How did they beat the Van Allen belts? Why was the flag waving in space? Why were so many of the astronauts involved seemingly so evasive, depressed, and seemingly even scared after the fact? Why haven't we been back? We do send manned missions up nearby, and unmanned missions out to Mars. And, uh, a big one...they seem to have lost the original footage. They taped over their own original recordings for financial reasons. That's the official story, as I understand.
There are a lot of discrepancies. I'm completely willing to believe we landed on the moon. I'm also completely willing to believe the government once again lied to me to further their own goals.
Also, you tied it in to JFK. The official story of JFK is also absurd, just more widely publicized. It's all optics. If things were slightly different, we could use the exact same argument to defend how JFK was killed by a lone gunman on the grassy knoll, because the government is so incompetent no one even believes we landed on the moon.
None of this is really that bad assuming you don't take things as cynically as possible.
The big bang theory is creationism - just secular creationism. So the two beliefs are not mutually exclusive, nor can either be proven as asserted by their source materials. You can believe in one, both, or neither and your views are equally as valid as any other combination.
The human form hasn't changed since their creation? Yeah, of course it hasn't. If it had, they'd be a new species and thus no longer human, wouldn't they?
The angels one basically means nothing. It doesn't say they believe angels are on earth or are influencing our lives. Just that they exist. Which is a given if you belong to any Abrahamic faith.
The heliocentrism one basically just says "25% of people are in the 25th percentile for intelligence". Again, largely meaningless. Yes, we know stupid people exist. They always have and always will. And until they stop making shitty, useless infographics, we just have to do our best to ignore them.
I watched a video just a few days ago about how the observed expansion of the universe is inconsistent with the models they're using, so either the measurements are innacurate, there's a missing factor, or the model is wrong.
The Big Bang is still very much at the "best we can do for now" stage.
For decades, the official narrative has been "yes all our models are wrong based on all known information, but it's because there's this stuff called 'dark matter' that definitely exists even though the only evidence we have is that if it doesn't exist then we're wrong". And the scientific community just accepts this.
I'm not anti science by any means, and if they invent a Dark Matter Detector tomorrow that provably shows the existence of dark matter then I'll accept that. But so many aspects of science seem to be cramming a square peg into a round hole because scientists can't bear to be wrong or just say "I don't know". It's too common for me to trust the field any more than I trust religion.
I would have believed it except the 1 in 4 believe the sun revolves around the earth part.
Ha, you would be very surprised.
I even managed to meet someone (from Greece, no less) who honestly believed that stars are the spirits of the dead. Tried to say they taught that in school ... this was a couple years before The Lion King came out, too.
Listening to the Radio on my car trip into work had a caller call in here in AUS who was a flat earther. I found it fucking hilarious as flat earthers constantly claim AUS doesn't exist, yet here there is someone from AUS buying into it.
the creatures that run government clearly aren't human.
"There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain
I'm usually very pro-science but I'm staying open-minded on the lizard people
Science is pretty wrong about a lot of things. We live in a dream world. God's dream. The rules are his to change at will. The science we know is only because God allows us to know it. We're not the masters of the universe we think we are, we're actors in God's play.
Don't forget the shit-tards that will say they "believe in" evolution, but then turn around and insist that humans were Special Created by aliens; it's basically the same religious bullshit that wants to separate humans from the rest of the animal kingdom just because of ego reasons (ooo, technological might makes right? Well, tell that to the whiny fucking red niggers, then, and go fucking hunt migrants and sentinelese, fucktard, human supremacy is fine, but ooo muh white supremacy is bad, fuck off.)
And if coyotes aren't the same species as dogs/wolves, then I'm not the same fucking species as shitskins.
I'm sorry but if a pollster asked if I believed that lizard people control the government I would say yes, no matter the circumstances.
Same with all the other questions.
Always fun to confuse the lizards.
To hell with Jesus . . . create an altar to Einstein. Oh, that's right . . . we have nuclear reactors and A-bombs. Those will do.
What alternatives do you atheists have to offer those whose spiritual lives you mock, other than your resentment and stupid juvenile one-upmanship?
Atheists are as dogmatic as any fucking Imam.
Ok heretic.