Hate religion because it's anti science
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Put it this way, do you think:
A: America by some fluke managed to do the moon landings despite so many setbacks and haven't been back because of the costs and no clear plan after like setting up permanent facilities
Or B: the inept American government managed to fool the world INCLUDING their biggest Cold War rival into believing they landed on the moon.
I'm way more into camp A not just on evidence but to pull of deceiving EVERYONE is out of America's skillset, they can't convince people JFK wasn't assassinated by the CIA how can they fake a moon landing?
I don't think your A and B are mutually exclusive.
When they were on the moon, retroreflectors were set up. With a sufficiently powerful and precisely aimed laser, you can get the beam reflected back at you. It's undeniable humans landed on the moon.
-- however --
I do believe there is no way in hell that, at the time, they would air that live on television. The propaganda hit if the mission failed would have been too great, especially in the face of the soviets.
Ok so humans did land on the moon you just believe that they faked the first landing.
That's at least more reasonable, I'm more bewildered by the ones that flatly deny it. I get the impression from some that if Elon did get us to Mars (he's more likely out if the current space agencies) they'd be denying it even on the spacecraft there.
That's really the crux of the issue. They're so fucking incompetent that it almost works in their favor. It's just the status quo. Seriously muddies the waters.
For the record, I don't go hard on the whole moon landing thing, one way or the other. It's a relative nonissue, and doesn't affect my life one way or the other if it did happen. But there are questions. How did they beat the Van Allen belts? Why was the flag waving in space? Why were so many of the astronauts involved seemingly so evasive, depressed, and seemingly even scared after the fact? Why haven't we been back? We do send manned missions up nearby, and unmanned missions out to Mars. And, uh, a big one...they seem to have lost the original footage. They taped over their own original recordings for financial reasons. That's the official story, as I understand.
There are a lot of discrepancies. I'm completely willing to believe we landed on the moon. I'm also completely willing to believe the government once again lied to me to further their own goals.
Also, you tied it in to JFK. The official story of JFK is also absurd, just more widely publicized. It's all optics. If things were slightly different, we could use the exact same argument to defend how JFK was killed by a lone gunman on the grassy knoll, because the government is so incompetent no one even believes we landed on the moon.