Lefty compares Atlus Shrugged to Cthulhu
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5000 dollars says the poster couldn’t even understand the book and probably has never read it but some communist website told them it was evil
There are so many books like that.
That's a pretty good point. It's pretty interesting that right wingers aren't as bad as this, because a lot of them are headline-skimmers as well (like boomercons). Maybe that's because righties have pre-existing belief systems and aren't trained to follow the cult of Expert-Managed Everything like lefties.
The youtuber Decoy Voice put this pretty well. "[Libs] don't want you to solve anything, they just want you to be wrong."
We often say history goes to the victors, but that's not quite true. Victory goes to the PR team. Egypt was terrible as an army, but even a slight win was put onto walls as the greatest maneuver ever. It's been like that for a very long time.
I remember how Art of the Deal was treated during the election. It would have given a great idea about Trump's personality and how he made decisions. They wanted evil, so it became something akin to Mein Kampf. They even compared it to the book.
24/7 New Cycles and its consequences have been a disaster for society.
Catcher in the fucking Rye.
Doubt the poster even read CoC.
Atlas Shrugged is not without its issues, but the hatedom for it is fascinating. It's almost at Rand Woman Bad levels. Her ideas really bother them and I think that's because they sense some truth in them.
Seeing as Bioshock was entirely about how wrong she was, I'd say Rand Bad is a very true theory.
And yet many young people were introduced to Rand from playing Bioshock and started dabbling in objectivist-adjacent ideas like anarcho-capitalism after playing the game. I'm not sure what Ken Levine's intent with the story actually was but it came off as rather even-handed to me. Certainly not an anti-Rand author tract. The good and bad guys in the story are not good or bad because of their ideology, they just took things to the extreme.
Bioshock Infinite on the other hand...
As much as I dislike Bioshock Infinite as a game, when you stop and think about the setting in any way, it starts going all over the place. Columbia is clearly meant to be interpreted as 'bad', because the game is telling us that if we go ultra-nationalist and enslave brown people, we'll get flying cities as done by Norman Rockwell.
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Also, the lady in question leading the under-dog revolution is an unlikeable, horrible person who'll murder kids without hesitation. Who's also black.
...wait, which side are we supposed to be rooting for, here?
Yes, I know, we get a forward flash to the future where zepplins are razing New York City to the ground and this is supposed to be a bad thing, but... wait a minute...
So, yeah. Bioshock Infinite is certainly... something.
Kind of like Man In The High Castle. It basically said that if the axis had won and oppressed everyone who isn't white or Japanese, we'd end up with a clean, crime-free utopia that has technology and luxury decades ahead of its time. And the lesson we're supposed to take away from this is "it's a good thing the allies won".
A glimpse into the mind of a leftist can be as fascinating as it is confusing.
Bioshock Infinite having slavery made no sense anyway, since they have fully functioning robots by the time the story of the game starts. They just wanted to do "racism bad" and included slavery in a story where slavery would also be obsolete.
I think Fontaine is bad because of his ideology. He is an unabashed parasite who happily ruins lives and kills just for his own minuscule gains. The more lore reveals about him, the less likeable he becomes, in stark contrast to Ryan who becomes more understandable the more you know.
Fontaine alone being there and being so gleefully evil balances out every single other criticism of Objectivism by saying "well its right about this guy."
Pretty much described the Covid riots even down to the reasoning. Nobody saw it that way though.
Infinite was fairly even handed until the second DLC. Then they made Daisy Fitzroy only do horrible things because she was told she had to for the timeline to be fixed.
:3c
Bioshock 2 managed to also say utilitarianism and collectivism were bad with the same vitriol, while also proving "Some Rand Good."
Probably one of the many reasons why many called it "bad" at the time.
It was so “bad” that Ken Levine stole the father and daughter plot point.
And did it so much worse.
Elizabeth wasn't a character. She was a fake try hard "cute" thing to force you to get attached to her because the entire story fails if you don't love her. She is annoying to deal with, and her combat potential is only bandaiding the god awful setpieces.
Eleanor grew on you over the course of the game. She went out of her way to help you despite the risk, and sincerely loved you. And when you free her, she basically solos the rest of the game for you.
If your takeaway from Bioshock was "objectivism bad" and not, according to Ken himself, "something else", you took the bait.
I'll listen to it tonight.
This video will eliminate all previous notions that the Bioshock games were good. Highly recommended his channel on Odyssey.
Andrew Ryan did nothing wrong
Try reading her non-fiction. Start with The Romantic Manifesto, art criticism seems to be an easy way into a philosophy's theories.
I'll look into that.
Its because its offering an alternative to their tyranny and thus must be destroyed
Unironically, a lot of it is probably because she's a woman, and therefore an apostate to leftism.
I remember years ago on 4chan the occasional "What books are you reading?" thread would pop up. The posters were typically people jerking each other off to "deep" and edgy philosophical books. There were no wrong answers in that thread...
...except when anybody mentioned any Ayn Rand book, even a lesser known one. Then suddenly there were wrong answers, and that person would get shit on. "Hurr durr Ayn Rand was completely retarded just like you!!!"
It would at least still look like a joke if they stopped after the first 2 lines. The more they kept going the less funny it got.
First punchline: Bland humor from a 16 year old pseud. But still humor.
Second punchline: Reddit-tier overdoing the joke. No matter how funny the joke was, it no longer is.
Third punchline: It is now clear there was never a joke; the entire thing is just seething disguised as comedy.
[Thing] that disagrees with me is the great satan!
Call of Cthulhu is a novella and an RPG based on the mythos. The evil book of unspeakable horror within the fiction is the Necronomicon.
I still say Mountain of Madness was better.
Oh, a million percent. I actually know someone who couldn't finish "because of the geometries."
Sure... but that's about Cthulu as well so shrug
leftist: Atlas shrugged is also an evil book!
also leftist(probably): Books depicting explicit gay sex are important for the growing mind
Good point.
More insult from someone who probably hasn't read the book.
I find it interesting that H.P. Lovecraft is popular with teenage boys and leftists. A shut-in paranoid created a formula that features the world menaced by "eldritch" monsters "from beyond time and space" who become agitated when some innocent bookish type stumbles upon the Necronomicon and naively unleashes the dread Cthulu and/or other evil entities with unpronounceable names.
Seems like a metaphor for contemporary leftist politics.
P.S.
Despite my dismissal of Lovecraft, I still really like "The Color out of Space," "Cool Air," "Innsmouth Clay," and "The Dunwich Horror" and will re-read any of these maybe once every other year.
Having read and own everything HPL has ever written in triplicate and a few titles more than even that, I can confirm that this is retarded nonsense. Cthulhu is far down the totem pole of rank in the lovecraft mythos but is still an outsider. Anyone Who attributes human and mortal morality like good and evil or concepts like life and death to an old one, let alone an outer god like nyarlathotep have not read the material and do not understand the scope or context.
Lovecraft is great, but it is quite rambley. Hell, sometimes it feels like he's trying too hard with the thesaurus. I'm fairly curtain he even misuses some of his more esoterique words on some rare occasions, but I haven't read any of his work much since highschool. Tried again a couple years ago with an audio book and it was kind of hard to really get back in to. I grew kind of attached any any works involving Joseph Curwen personally, but that's probably because those works are some of the more "grounded" stories. I was am a total nerd back in the day and made an Alchemist named after him in Ragnarok Online. Against all fucking odds at least one person recognized it. Good times.
Also I have no idea wtf Atlas Shruged is/means.
Checkout Lovecraft's Monsters. A bunch of modern writers wrote stories based on the works by Lovecraft. There are some really good ones in there.
What I gather from Atlas Shrugged is that the communist ideal is a societal utopia. Ayn Rand shows that a competent person is not allowed in this world, and yet drives much of it. I've seen it in several real life situations. There is a theme park in Orlando that is basically working because one guy fixes and maintains everything. If they went robot cooks, almost the entire park would be him. The counter narrative by communists is that if we point toward the singular competent man, we let assholes do things. The lone shooter, the evil investor, and the like. Ayn Rand points out that the assholes exist anyway and would end up just being part of the party controls. We can't stop assholes by making everyone else suffer.
Could she say it in fewer words? Sure.
Atlas Shrugged is about a man who is so competent he could change the world. He is Atlas with the world on his shoulders. The society he lives in won't let him, because the very idea of his existence is considered evil.
Ok. It just clicked. It's an alagory for Atlas the God single handedly holding the world on his shoulders and being all around forgotten about. You susincly lit the bulb.
It's my job.
Honest to god, when I asked to buy a copy of Atlas Shrugged from a bookstore when I was younger my (basically sane but left-wing) mother audibly muttered "Know thy enemy, I guess".
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Sure, thy enemy, that's why I was buying it.
Did this retard try to say that a Lovecraft book causes insanity? They clearly know nothing about Atlas Shrugged, but what makes it funnier is that they clearly know nothing about Lovecraft either. Should've at least made it a joke about the necronomicon if they wanted to reference Lovecraft. Problem is with modern leftoids crying about how Lovecraft was a "mean nasty wacist!" and their programming forbids them from actually reading any of it.
They did name the story everyone has heard of.