Do they mention the massive two-hour battery life when untethered?
I enjoy a little VR gaming as much as anyone, but I fail to see how any of the use cases shown in this video are any different to what you can do with a phone or laptop. And how the fuck does FaceTime work? Is there a camera inside the goggles so the person you're talking to gets to stare up your nostrils?
I do believe Apple has sunk so much into the development of this thing that they felt they had no choice but to release it to market and hope the fanboys tug themselves raw over it, and one look on Twitter suggests it worked.
You know what it reminds me of? Remember that scene in Jurassic Park where Lexi 'hacks' the computer system by navigating through a cinema-friendly visual representation of what is basically a computer's file system?
Fair, yeah, I didn't pay that close attention to this on, but Hollywood has done a few VR/AR interfaces. The movie Minority Report comes to mind for extensive use of the hand gestures.
As other people pointed out, I can't imagine doing work in one of these. Or using one for more than a few minutes, really. I think AR will be very useful for work but not as a replacement for a desk/keyboard/monitor/mouse. Rather you're out actually doing something and you're getting information related to what you're actually doing. Did they even test this outside?
From the look of things they're positioning it as a replacement or supplement to a laptop. It has the same processor as their updated Mac line, with a co-processor for all the tracking gubbins.
And how the fuck does FaceTime work? Is there a camera inside the goggles so the person you're talking to gets to stare up your nostrils?
lol that'd be hilarious XD
I don't know how it works but I'd imagine you'd still need a phone/laptop/etc (which will also be your camera) and they get to see you with that ridiculous headset on
EDIT:
Well, I've been watching more videos and it seems that you get a digital avatar when using FaceTime. Here's a video with a timestamp.
Definitely makes sense they'd have you tethered to other Apple devices. Somewhat ironic having a FaceTime call while your face is obscured, but then this is company that enabled you to use FaceID while wearing a mask and habitually churns out new diverse and inclusive emojis featuring hijabs, niqabs, etc.
Meta is working on the same things and I think the goal here from Apple is to beat them to release by announcing early.
Apple has. A better chance of successfully pioneering the “meta verse” because they have better brand reputation and better “perceived” data ethics (we know it’s not true) than Facebook/Meta. I don’t think anybody trusts Zuckerberg with their data. For some reason they trust Apple tho.
In all seriousness, this is poorly marketed. You look like an idiot for wearing snorkeling goggles in front of other people, so that's completely out of the picture.
With that said, it's pretty neat if you're by yourself. The virtual workstation is pretty dope, but you're probably not going to want to wear that thing while getting work done, so a monitor will serve you better. IMO they'll probably best for watching movies, but you're not going to watch movies alone so you'll need at least another set, but possibly 3-5 depending on how many people you plan to invite. But at $3500 a pop, this is definitely geared towards rich people.
Lastly, that song they chose is frigging horrible. Just had to get that out there.
The lady she FaceTime with didn't have to wear a visor and it omits the endless black void around the video screen not to mention absolutely zero freedom of movement (by design)
FUCK YES dude! This is exactly what I've been waiting for! Now I can finally look like the biggest fucking faggot in the entire universe while having advertisements for new and uninteresting garbage to consoom directly into my goddamn retinas! I'll finally be able to watch tranny porn while SLAMMING IPAs inside my $5000 a month cupboard-sized apartment!
(It's literally just Google Glass 2.0 except even gayer, which makes sense considering who's selling it, but the idea has been thoroughly dead for over a decade. If I ever see anyone wearing one of these on the streets I'm punching them in the face. No court will sentence me.)
Ad is cringe, but it's great to see more of this kind of thing. Also refreshing they don't use the marketing BS term "MR".
Better use case might be HUD while driving, though if it's capable of blacking out the outside world, might be a risk (Apple software is not bug free!).
There have been cars with integrated HUDs for a while, although it's by no means common, and as you said they don't obstruct your vision since they're just projected on the windshield because they weren't designed by people who have been huffing their own farts for so long they have brain damage from hypoxia.
I don't see the advantage of standing at the kitchen island doing work compared to a desk. Unless some tech came out recently gesture controls have never not sucked and vr controls require you to turn yourself into a robot to have any kind of precision. There is a reason mouse control has been used for a half century.
I have a 75in tv to watch movies and TV from and since they are all woke sewage I'm barely doing that at all.
On a flight I have a book...or sleeping.
The only thing I want out of wearable tech is AR combined with AI that lets me sort through all of my supermarket choices so I can boycott the stuff I want to boycott, avoid ingredients I don't want to eat, and generally optimize my buying options.
I remember seeing demos of these glasses where they showed Minecraft like integrations with your regular walls, and other gaming applications. This smartphone shit is gay as fuck
I think that's ten years off. It takes people who are ready for this for it to work. The same is for AI. We know it's headed in specific ways, so designers prepare everything for it.
I expect another lense discovery to get it even smaller, and the tech to improve at the same rate it has. The big issue is social situations with goggles. That's the big problem that needs to be figured out.
Google Glass was smaller than this (although still incredibly stupid looking) over a decade ago, and the social situation problem isn't solvable - noone wants to talk to someone who's eyes are darting all over the place, This is a ridiculous solution looking for a problem. I hope the diversity hires at Apple poured billions upon billions into developing it.
There were a lot of diversity hires in the presentation...
For entertainment, I discovered that if others see what the player sees, the stigma falls a lot. It would take some work, but I want to project a 270 view of the game surroundings around the player. At the moment it's just some guy randomly walking around.
You will need a device to be tethered to though for battery and data transfer, I assume it would look like eyeglass holder straps that you would then put down your t-shirt into your device or to a laptop.
Wireless will never be able to compete when it comes to battery life and latency, simple as.
Even a boomer could tell you that a smartphone had far more utility and usefulness than this.
This is just for movies, video games, and maybe FaceTime (if you're okay with a digital avatar of yourself).
And even the world's first smart phone fit in the palm of your hand and could be carried in your pocket. This requires you strapping it to your head and a carrying case if you want to take it with you.
Do they mention the massive two-hour battery life when untethered?
I enjoy a little VR gaming as much as anyone, but I fail to see how any of the use cases shown in this video are any different to what you can do with a phone or laptop. And how the fuck does FaceTime work? Is there a camera inside the goggles so the person you're talking to gets to stare up your nostrils?
I do believe Apple has sunk so much into the development of this thing that they felt they had no choice but to release it to market and hope the fanboys tug themselves raw over it, and one look on Twitter suggests it worked.
I don't think the killer app for AR is using your desktop while wearing goggles.
You know what it reminds me of? Remember that scene in Jurassic Park where Lexi 'hacks' the computer system by navigating through a cinema-friendly visual representation of what is basically a computer's file system?
This is the Apple version.
Fair, yeah, I didn't pay that close attention to this on, but Hollywood has done a few VR/AR interfaces. The movie Minority Report comes to mind for extensive use of the hand gestures.
As other people pointed out, I can't imagine doing work in one of these. Or using one for more than a few minutes, really. I think AR will be very useful for work but not as a replacement for a desk/keyboard/monitor/mouse. Rather you're out actually doing something and you're getting information related to what you're actually doing. Did they even test this outside?
From the look of things they're positioning it as a replacement or supplement to a laptop. It has the same processor as their updated Mac line, with a co-processor for all the tracking gubbins.
So you were right on; it's a MacGoggle.
I haven't given this thing a proper look yet, but I was hoping Apple would come up with something really useful.
lol that'd be hilarious XD
I don't know how it works but I'd imagine you'd still need a phone/laptop/etc (which will also be your camera) and they get to see you with that ridiculous headset on
EDIT:
Well, I've been watching more videos and it seems that you get a digital avatar when using FaceTime. Here's a video with a timestamp.
https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=408
I'm not sure about how FaceTime works, but I'm guessing it's possible through the headset.
Definitely makes sense they'd have you tethered to other Apple devices. Somewhat ironic having a FaceTime call while your face is obscured, but then this is company that enabled you to use FaceID while wearing a mask and habitually churns out new diverse and inclusive emojis featuring hijabs, niqabs, etc.
Well, I've been watching more videos and it seems that you get a digital avatar when using FaceTime. Here's a video with a timestamp.
https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=408
I'm not sure about how FaceTime works, but I'm guessing it's possible through the headset.
Oh man, that's some uncanny valley shit right there.
There has been research done on reconstructing 3D data from a fisheye camera attached to your face.
From 4 years ago: https://youtu.be/IuzRCMYMcgg?t=144
So you can talk to a horrifying polygon homunculus.
Meta is working on the same things and I think the goal here from Apple is to beat them to release by announcing early.
Apple has. A better chance of successfully pioneering the “meta verse” because they have better brand reputation and better “perceived” data ethics (we know it’s not true) than Facebook/Meta. I don’t think anybody trusts Zuckerberg with their data. For some reason they trust Apple tho.
I would only accept this product if it comes with a device on my arm and the next words were:
"LET'S D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!"
"You would only use this to play games?"
"Did I fucking stutter?"
"... Yes?" 🤔
In all seriousness, this is poorly marketed. You look like an idiot for wearing snorkeling goggles in front of other people, so that's completely out of the picture.
With that said, it's pretty neat if you're by yourself. The virtual workstation is pretty dope, but you're probably not going to want to wear that thing while getting work done, so a monitor will serve you better. IMO they'll probably best for watching movies, but you're not going to watch movies alone so you'll need at least another set, but possibly 3-5 depending on how many people you plan to invite. But at $3500 a pop, this is definitely geared towards rich people.
Lastly, that song they chose is frigging horrible. Just had to get that out there.
“You know what says we have an exciting new HMD? Us showing the first thing you can do with it is look at a PowerPoint and a word processor”
It’s literally the stuff they used to make fun of Microsoft for.
Apple: Think Different. And by different we mean you pay $3500 for the privilege.
The lady she FaceTime with didn't have to wear a visor and it omits the endless black void around the video screen not to mention absolutely zero freedom of movement (by design)
It's the Virtual Boy, but now in color.
An actual Virtual Boy might not do so badly sheerly through nostalgia and novelty. This iGoogleGlass not so much.
My first thoughts watching this were "You know why Goodle Glass failed? It just wasn't bulky and cumbersome enough. And it should have cost more."
When. When it breaks.
Planned obsolescence is a feature, not a bug, because otherwise the megacorps can't drain their customer base on a quarterly rate.
Charging and data port is going to fucking explode within the first two months if you use it daily for the virtual desktop.
That'll be $500 dollars of repair minimum.
FUCK YES dude! This is exactly what I've been waiting for! Now I can finally look like the biggest fucking faggot in the entire universe while having advertisements for new and uninteresting garbage to consoom directly into my goddamn retinas! I'll finally be able to watch tranny porn while SLAMMING IPAs inside my $5000 a month cupboard-sized apartment!
MFW
(It's literally just Google Glass 2.0 except even gayer, which makes sense considering who's selling it, but the idea has been thoroughly dead for over a decade. If I ever see anyone wearing one of these on the streets I'm punching them in the face. No court will sentence me.)
Ad is cringe, but it's great to see more of this kind of thing. Also refreshing they don't use the marketing BS term "MR".
Better use case might be HUD while driving, though if it's capable of blacking out the outside world, might be a risk (Apple software is not bug free!).
There have been cars with integrated HUDs for a while, although it's by no means common, and as you said they don't obstruct your vision since they're just projected on the windshield because they weren't designed by people who have been huffing their own farts for so long they have brain damage from hypoxia.
I don't see the advantage of standing at the kitchen island doing work compared to a desk. Unless some tech came out recently gesture controls have never not sucked and vr controls require you to turn yourself into a robot to have any kind of precision. There is a reason mouse control has been used for a half century.
I have a 75in tv to watch movies and TV from and since they are all woke sewage I'm barely doing that at all.
On a flight I have a book...or sleeping.
The only thing I want out of wearable tech is AR combined with AI that lets me sort through all of my supermarket choices so I can boycott the stuff I want to boycott, avoid ingredients I don't want to eat, and generally optimize my buying options.
And having something strapped to your head and weighing you down.
A desk and monitor is a much better option for getting work done.
And if you need portability, just get a laptop or tablet PC.
I remember seeing demos of these glasses where they showed Minecraft like integrations with your regular walls, and other gaming applications. This smartphone shit is gay as fuck
The HTC XR seems to have won.
IMO they all suck.
The future of widespread VR adoption will be resemble glasses.
Very few people are going to be walking around with a brick strapped around their head that also obscures your peripheral vision.
We probably won't see it in our lifetime, but that's where it needs to be, IMO.
I think that's ten years off. It takes people who are ready for this for it to work. The same is for AI. We know it's headed in specific ways, so designers prepare everything for it.
It's one of these things that's been "ten years off" for decades, like nuclear fusion, self-driving cars, and a catastrophic rise in sea levels.
I expect another lense discovery to get it even smaller, and the tech to improve at the same rate it has. The big issue is social situations with goggles. That's the big problem that needs to be figured out.
Google Glass was smaller than this (although still incredibly stupid looking) over a decade ago, and the social situation problem isn't solvable - noone wants to talk to someone who's eyes are darting all over the place, This is a ridiculous solution looking for a problem. I hope the diversity hires at Apple poured billions upon billions into developing it.
There were a lot of diversity hires in the presentation...
For entertainment, I discovered that if others see what the player sees, the stigma falls a lot. It would take some work, but I want to project a 270 view of the game surroundings around the player. At the moment it's just some guy randomly walking around.
You will need a device to be tethered to though for battery and data transfer, I assume it would look like eyeglass holder straps that you would then put down your t-shirt into your device or to a laptop.
Wireless will never be able to compete when it comes to battery life and latency, simple as.
I'm still looking at the HP Reverb G2 for flight sims as it seems to have the highest per-eye resolution.
That does look nice. It looks to be on sale right now.
I say the XR because it's using tech from a $10,000 head set.
Metas best move was to announce games coming to the Quest 3.
Relevant.
For only $3500 you can permanently ruin your eyes within one year of use. But it's all for The Greater Good™.
Edging closer and closer to a cyberpunk dystopia with all of the cybers, none of the punks.
Commenters on here sound like boomers gawking at the first smartphone.
Even a boomer could tell you that a smartphone had far more utility and usefulness than this.
This is just for movies, video games, and maybe FaceTime (if you're okay with a digital avatar of yourself).
And even the world's first smart phone fit in the palm of your hand and could be carried in your pocket. This requires you strapping it to your head and a carrying case if you want to take it with you.