if their body is going to be objectified no matter what, OnlyFans gives them the power and material reward. I know OnlyFans creators who love what they do and aren’t harming themselves or others
Bold faced lie, these whores manipulate men emotionally so they get bigger tips because the simp actually think the painted whore cares about them. This is devastating to young men.
No one “objectifies” you unless you present yourself as an object sweetheart. I didn’t force you to show off your tits.
The true service will be done by some based hacker that dumps the entire list of OF hos. A whorelist for every man with self respect and finances to lose can refer to.
Yeah, I’m guessing this is the case as well, like with any kind of business venture. Same as with Etsy, same with crypto bros, same with opening a restaurant or bar or whatever, same with those pyramid scene-type direct sales companies, most who play the game don’t make it. But I guess if you fell for Lularoe you’re just out some cash and have a garage full of dumb clothes. If you fail on OnlyFans you’ve got nudes out there forever.
But these broken men have like 100 major professional porn stars to subscribe to, why would they pay $5/mo for some 5/10 nobody when you can get exclusives of your fav porn star who will even reply to your DMs- giving you a dopamine hit and illusion of a personal connection to your fav porn star?
Some women are getting very rich from this, most are not.
I’m actually in agreement with you on this one. To make $180 a month wouldn’t be worth continuing objectifying yourself and manipulating men. I believe they’re using OF for their main hussle. Actual prostitution. Meeting up with men for sex.
You're assuming they don't believe they can "build their brand" and keep trying. You're also ignoring the ego boost of having anyone pay money to talk to you and see your tits- even if it's not many, "it's more than other women who have zero!" and that has value to them.
Where the hell did I assume that? I said they’re using OF to build up their main hussle. It doesn’t mean that they’re not flashing their tits on the site.
Bold faced lie, these whores manipulate men emotionally so they get bigger tips because the simp actually think the painted whore cares about them. This is devastating to young men.
I highly recommend the show "Killer Cases" (on Hulu) s02e02 about Grant Amato.
This dude was such a simp it was basically a mental illness. He had it so bad for this Czech cam whore that he first stole tons of money from his family ($200k) to pay her with. Then, when they demanded he cut her off and kicked him out of the house, he killed them all, including his brother that he was very close with. All so he could keep talking to and giving money to this cam whore who didn't give a fuck about him. Disgusting excuse of a man, but fascinating case.
The only time I've ever heard someone argue "well, they can't be held responsible for what someone else chooses to do" is when women do it to men. Even in cases where she outright bullies him to kill himself openly and directly.
In the 1980s, "doctors" who wanted to push opiates on patients and get paid by the pharmaceutical industry for it, started claiming that traditional wariness of opium was "opiophobia".
Millions of addicts and hundreds of thousands of deaths later, the exact same tactic is still used to manipulate idiots.
You should be feeling revulsion. However a phobia is explicitly unfounded. Whorephobia cannot exist according to its own definition. Unless you just have a keenly honed sixth sense for detecting whores despite no outwardly whorish tendencies being displayed where you can see. If you can just sense whores then maybe you can argue it's a phobia.
In case you're wondering the source for that pic of Rachel Gilmore in a lingerie top- it's when Gilly tried to attack Jordan Peterson and defend Mr Dylan getting a makup sponsorship by admitting she takes her makeup advice from "trans women" ie men pathetically attempting to look like women: https://archive.is/swWYx
As a cis woman who knows a lot about makeup I have learned so much from trans makeup girlies!!! 💖✨Transphobia is ugly, and so is gatekeeping. If you can fix your hairline, Jordan, trans women should be able to see themselves in companies that make them feel beautiful too!
She willfully admitted that she takes makeup advice from mentally ill men...of her own free will. Wasn't exposed, wasn't pressured to say that...like she literally thought that was an excellent thing to admit to the world.
Peterson is unironically what Imp claims he is. The dude is soft asf and thinks that men should bow to modern women in an attempt to "save" them. Trannies still aren't shit though
Only for you. Your monomania warps your sense of who's worth saving. You are definitionally alienated and divorced from a normal human reproductive cycle by your choice of enemy.
You never even consider rescuing children from women, and jump straight to the poor trannies-- 'men' and 'brothers' in chromosome only. Those who (ironically) self-identify and ape the women you hate.
I'd rather take a chance trying to save broken men and waste time, than side with women and "win" yet more entrenchment of their superiority complex.
It is easier to raise strong children than fix broken men, per Douglass.
In that sense your 'enemies' make better allies than you, since they can have children, who are definitionally easier to 'rescue' than your broken 'men' who no longer even identify as male.
I've yet to hear a real argument for attacking them as people that isn't women's traditional "small percentage are evil so we should hate them all" garbage, purely motivated by simping or entirely spiteful.
You cannot rescue someone from their delusions. Someone has to want to change, and MtFs desire for change is entirely dysphoric and aligned against you. You will never succeed while society reinforces their delusions.
Rather than focusing on children, who both need and desire role models and guidance, your fixation on 'saving' MtF trannies is peak 'captain save a hoe' energy-- except the 'women' you simp for are male.
His wife having an Onlyfans is awesome and empowering and him being the laughing stock of the internet is totally worth supporting her on. But if you joke "I'll subscribe to it if I lose a fight" then you are an evil man who they ban from their events.
Bold faced lie, these whores manipulate men emotionally so they get bigger tips because the simp actually think the painted whore cares about them. This is devastating to young men.
No one “objectifies” you unless you present yourself as an object sweetheart. I didn’t force you to show off your tits.
FUN FACT: The average OF girl makes $180/mo
And the median makes 0. Very few girls ever get a single subscriber.
The true service will be done by some based hacker that dumps the entire list of OF hos. A whorelist for every man with self respect and finances to lose can refer to.
They're not victims, they're morons who don't understand the pareto principle.
Hilarious if true. Butthole available on the internet forever for less than half a car payment.
Unlikely. The failures far outnumber the successes, would be my guess.
Yeah, I’m guessing this is the case as well, like with any kind of business venture. Same as with Etsy, same with crypto bros, same with opening a restaurant or bar or whatever, same with those pyramid scene-type direct sales companies, most who play the game don’t make it. But I guess if you fell for Lularoe you’re just out some cash and have a garage full of dumb clothes. If you fail on OnlyFans you’ve got nudes out there forever.
No, it's unlikely that all of them are making top dollar. Or even one on twenty of them.
It's the same as YouTube. Less than a percent of content creators can actually make it work as a job, the rest are kidding themselves.
Bro!, You know I have your back when you are right, regardless of the down votes.
For that reason, I also have to call you on your bullshit when you are wrong.
$180/mo seems about right according to all public sources I can find.
Also, privately held companies still have to report revenue and payments to third parties.
If you have any sources with different numbers, post them in your reply.
I used to do that and then it just got to the point where kept pissing me off with stupid claims
But these broken men have like 100 major professional porn stars to subscribe to, why would they pay $5/mo for some 5/10 nobody when you can get exclusives of your fav porn star who will even reply to your DMs- giving you a dopamine hit and illusion of a personal connection to your fav porn star?
Some women are getting very rich from this, most are not.
Like any financial rewards system like this it will follow an exponential curve of rewards.
Angela White can make millions on OF, she's an established major porn star.
Mid Betty from your local Walmart, not so much.
I’m actually in agreement with you on this one. To make $180 a month wouldn’t be worth continuing objectifying yourself and manipulating men. I believe they’re using OF for their main hussle. Actual prostitution. Meeting up with men for sex.
You're assuming they don't believe they can "build their brand" and keep trying. You're also ignoring the ego boost of having anyone pay money to talk to you and see your tits- even if it's not many, "it's more than other women who have zero!" and that has value to them.
Where the hell did I assume that? I said they’re using OF to build up their main hussle. It doesn’t mean that they’re not flashing their tits on the site.
I highly recommend the show "Killer Cases" (on Hulu) s02e02 about Grant Amato.
This dude was such a simp it was basically a mental illness. He had it so bad for this Czech cam whore that he first stole tons of money from his family ($200k) to pay her with. Then, when they demanded he cut her off and kicked him out of the house, he killed them all, including his brother that he was very close with. All so he could keep talking to and giving money to this cam whore who didn't give a fuck about him. Disgusting excuse of a man, but fascinating case.
I’m sure the whore suffered no consequences for constantly enabling and pushing for more money
Surely not. They didn't even bother talking to her for the murder trial.
They never do.
The only time I've ever heard someone argue "well, they can't be held responsible for what someone else chooses to do" is when women do it to men. Even in cases where she outright bullies him to kill himself openly and directly.
No, nobody here doubts that.
This phobia, that phobia - it's starting to sound like a suffix appended to a lot of things we should reasonably dislike
In the 1980s, "doctors" who wanted to push opiates on patients and get paid by the pharmaceutical industry for it, started claiming that traditional wariness of opium was "opiophobia".
Millions of addicts and hundreds of thousands of deaths later, the exact same tactic is still used to manipulate idiots.
why shouldn't i be repulsed by a whore?
You should be feeling revulsion. However a phobia is explicitly unfounded. Whorephobia cannot exist according to its own definition. Unless you just have a keenly honed sixth sense for detecting whores despite no outwardly whorish tendencies being displayed where you can see. If you can just sense whores then maybe you can argue it's a phobia.
Ironic.
Journalists dislike 'whorephobia' for a very good reason - it's a direct attack on their profession.
In case you're wondering the source for that pic of Rachel Gilmore in a lingerie top- it's when Gilly tried to attack Jordan Peterson and defend Mr Dylan getting a makup sponsorship by admitting she takes her makeup advice from "trans women" ie men pathetically attempting to look like women: https://archive.is/swWYx
She willfully admitted that she takes makeup advice from mentally ill men...of her own free will. Wasn't exposed, wasn't pressured to say that...like she literally thought that was an excellent thing to admit to the world.
Why do you have a soft spot for trannies
Peterson is unironically what Imp claims he is. The dude is soft asf and thinks that men should bow to modern women in an attempt to "save" them. Trannies still aren't shit though
Drowning people are quite likely to pull others down with them.
You'd do well to remember this when trying to save someone.
Only for you. Your monomania warps your sense of who's worth saving. You are definitionally alienated and divorced from a normal human reproductive cycle by your choice of enemy.
You never even consider rescuing children from women, and jump straight to the poor trannies-- 'men' and 'brothers' in chromosome only. Those who (ironically) self-identify and ape the women you hate.
It is easier to raise strong children than fix broken men, per Douglass. In that sense your 'enemies' make better allies than you, since they can have children, who are definitionally easier to 'rescue' than your broken 'men' who no longer even identify as male.
You cannot rescue someone from their delusions. Someone has to want to change, and MtFs desire for change is entirely dysphoric and aligned against you. You will never succeed while society reinforces their delusions.
Rather than focusing on children, who both need and desire role models and guidance, your fixation on 'saving' MtF trannies is peak 'captain save a hoe' energy-- except the 'women' you simp for are male.
So trannies don't have accountability but all women do?
So...it is a bad thing?
"Onlyfans is awesome & empowering, but it's terrible if someone makes a joke about you having one!"
Its like that recent Idubbz drama.
His wife having an Onlyfans is awesome and empowering and him being the laughing stock of the internet is totally worth supporting her on. But if you joke "I'll subscribe to it if I lose a fight" then you are an evil man who they ban from their events.
Wait I thought that was just the rational weariness around STDs and gold diggers