Getting flashbacks from when a gun club I used to be in had to do a quick backtrack on the question of finding someone else to insure the ranges because they merely put discussing ditching the NRA on the meeting agenda
Legions of boomers came out of the woodwork to defend the NRA because they truly were fighting to keep the fed from takin' ar' gunz.
I can't remember off the top of my head, but they've occasionally pressured politicians to support laws that were a little goofy. I don't remember the specific, but an example might be something like: removing any sort of mental health standard, even voluntary ones, that could lead to genuine paranoid schizophrenics into getting firearms.
Sometimes, I think they are just engaging in a "Big Ask" style of negotiation.
Well... aren't paranoid schizos getting guns anyway? The point of these regulations is to allow the state to decide that "you're crazy, no guns for you" for any reason, including not believing everything state propaganda says, or wanting to buy a gun.
Recent story from around here, btw: A former top-level exec from one of the biggest banks in the country ended up in a psychiatric hospital a while ago. One day he just walked out, went back home, grabbed his gun - WHICH WAS REGISTERED WITH THE POLICE, WHO WERE NOTIFIED HE WAS IN A PSYCH HOLD, AND WERE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TAKE THE GUN - and disappeared. Someone found him dead in the woods a day or two later. Good thing we have all those safety regs.
The NRA was basically the leading gun control advocacy organization in the US until the 1950's when there stance began to slightly mollify.
They are explicitly the reason there are weird rules about how pistols have to be able to be shot with one hand, and you can't have foregrips on them... because the NRA's competition shooting for pistols back in the late 1890s involved competition shooting with 1 hand. Why would you ever need to use 2 hands to shoot a pistol?
What "pistol" would you want a foregrip for? Those work by stablizing the gun in combination with a stock. They don't work in a proper stance for firing handguns. That only makes sense if you're doing some mob movie tommygun hipfiring bullshit.
And the only handguns firing calibers that would even justify a foregrip for recoil control tend to be revolvers, in which if you're reaching past the forcing cone you're a goddamn retard liable to hurt yourself.
There is a reason why there are AR-15 pattern pistols, and those will never be able to be held in a normal pistol pattern. Same with single-fire made, shortened PCC's like an MP9 (like I said, made to fire single fire only).
You might not like that some of those are considered pistols. Fine, but all of that relates to the definition of "pistol" in the US... which is what the NRA came up with in the first place. It used to be, back in the day, that you would never shoot a pistol with two hands. Competition pistol shooting used to be standing at attention, with your head turned to your right, with your left hand placed behind your back, and your right hand and arm fully extended out from your right side, to aim and fire the pistol. That is the stance the NRA was operating off of, and that was what they drafted into legistlation.
The AR "pistol" is just a retarded abortion created to get around nonsensical ATF fuckery. It's a rifle with the stock removed for no good fucking reason (typically to replace with the totally not a stock "wrist brace"), and a barrel too short to be useful.
Just a reminder, this is the punk who pretended he was at a school shooting that he never witnessed, was hated by plenty of his classmates, and threatened to take away the children of an NRA admin during a public struggle session.
Don't worry Hogg, we get it. You like guns, particularly when you get to see them used against us for your own entertainment.
He's hoping by Fudd-posting that he will garner some positive traction with people who are pro-gun, not realising that there are far more educated gun owners than educated gun grabbers. His tactics only work on those that are uneducated, which is why it's so effective for gun grabbers.
The only people that want "stronger gun laws" belong to the political lean containing the perpetrators of over 80% of all gun crime.
Registered gun owners are less like to commit crimes than any other group including police officers
Stronger gun laws, as in, "the reason the strongest guns in the nation don't work in Baltimore is because South Dakota is too lax."
I always say, I fully support gun confiscation in the ghetto.
National guard, house to house.
No. Stop suspend emergency services in the area and the problem will correct itself.
I like you.
All I see is
Yes, I'm a Fudd
Yes, I'm a Fudd
Yes, I'm a Fudd
Muh NRA because I'm a Fudd
The irony being that the NRA is itself a Fudd organisation that has done more to compromise on gun rights than ever defend them.
Getting flashbacks from when a gun club I used to be in had to do a quick backtrack on the question of finding someone else to insure the ranges because they merely put discussing ditching the NRA on the meeting agenda
Legions of boomers came out of the woodwork to defend the NRA because they truly were fighting to keep the fed from takin' ar' gunz.
The "Gun Owners of America" lobby are a little bit crazy, but they are better than the damned NRA.
crazy how?
I can't remember off the top of my head, but they've occasionally pressured politicians to support laws that were a little goofy. I don't remember the specific, but an example might be something like: removing any sort of mental health standard, even voluntary ones, that could lead to genuine paranoid schizophrenics into getting firearms.
Sometimes, I think they are just engaging in a "Big Ask" style of negotiation.
Well... aren't paranoid schizos getting guns anyway? The point of these regulations is to allow the state to decide that "you're crazy, no guns for you" for any reason, including not believing everything state propaganda says, or wanting to buy a gun.
Recent story from around here, btw: A former top-level exec from one of the biggest banks in the country ended up in a psychiatric hospital a while ago. One day he just walked out, went back home, grabbed his gun - WHICH WAS REGISTERED WITH THE POLICE, WHO WERE NOTIFIED HE WAS IN A PSYCH HOLD, AND WERE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TAKE THE GUN - and disappeared. Someone found him dead in the woods a day or two later. Good thing we have all those safety regs.
The NRA was basically the leading gun control advocacy organization in the US until the 1950's when there stance began to slightly mollify.
They are explicitly the reason there are weird rules about how pistols have to be able to be shot with one hand, and you can't have foregrips on them... because the NRA's competition shooting for pistols back in the late 1890s involved competition shooting with 1 hand. Why would you ever need to use 2 hands to shoot a pistol?
What "pistol" would you want a foregrip for? Those work by stablizing the gun in combination with a stock. They don't work in a proper stance for firing handguns. That only makes sense if you're doing some mob movie tommygun hipfiring bullshit.
And the only handguns firing calibers that would even justify a foregrip for recoil control tend to be revolvers, in which if you're reaching past the forcing cone you're a goddamn retard liable to hurt yourself.
This goes back to the concept of a pistol:
There is a reason why there are AR-15 pattern pistols, and those will never be able to be held in a normal pistol pattern. Same with single-fire made, shortened PCC's like an MP9 (like I said, made to fire single fire only).
You might not like that some of those are considered pistols. Fine, but all of that relates to the definition of "pistol" in the US... which is what the NRA came up with in the first place. It used to be, back in the day, that you would never shoot a pistol with two hands. Competition pistol shooting used to be standing at attention, with your head turned to your right, with your left hand placed behind your back, and your right hand and arm fully extended out from your right side, to aim and fire the pistol. That is the stance the NRA was operating off of, and that was what they drafted into legistlation.
The AR "pistol" is just a retarded abortion created to get around nonsensical ATF fuckery. It's a rifle with the stock removed for no good fucking reason (typically to replace with the totally not a stock "wrist brace"), and a barrel too short to be useful.
My freedom boner just grew three sizes
The four boxes that defend American Freedom
The Soap Box (compromised by (((certain people))) )
The Jury Box (compromised by (((certain people))) )
The Ballot Box (compromised by (((certain people))) )
The Ammo Box (You are almost here)
Just a reminder, this is the punk who pretended he was at a school shooting that he never witnessed, was hated by plenty of his classmates, and threatened to take away the children of an NRA admin during a public struggle session.
Don't worry Hogg, we get it. You like guns, particularly when you get to see them used against us for your own entertainment.
Eat shit.
He looks so sickly.
There's nothing hypocritical about wanting your enemies disarmed and defenseless.
Important lesson that the right never learns.
He's hoping by Fudd-posting that he will garner some positive traction with people who are pro-gun, not realising that there are far more educated gun owners than educated gun grabbers. His tactics only work on those that are uneducated, which is why it's so effective for gun grabbers.
child of a fed glows just as hard
“R-rules for THEEEE but not for MEEEEE!”
Commie bona fides confirmed.
to be fair, he might as well be shooting a really powerful BB gun
Lol no he was never going to give up his guns. Just yours