If you don't know what this is, Hershey in canada made a stupid ad for "women's day" with a tranny in it. The Daily Wire hosts made a lot of fun of this, and rolled out a rapid response offering to sell a "Jeremy's Chocolate" supposed alternative to "woke chocolate". This was modeled to look like a repeat of their "Jeremy's Razors" company, which they made to spite a razor company that loudly quit advertising on Daily Wire as a woke virtue signal. They used the same ad style with Jeremy Boreing doing his little "wannabe god king" routine.
So this is their product page. It's $7 for a 1.5oz bar of chocolate. So how much does the same product from Hershey's cost? Only $1.20. That's an insane markup. I just put a single chocolate bar into checkout. It's USD $12.53. For something I can get for $1.20 at the store. It's more than 10x the price.
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Asking conservatives to pay $7 for a product that widely retails for $1.20 is just taking advantage of and cheating your customers. I haven't priced out Jeremy's Razors, but I'll assume they are competitive. This is not. This is an exploitative short term cash grab, not an attempt to build a new brand or make a competing product. It's just trying to get themselves rich by exploiting a political movement. That's grift.
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The Daily Wire is not a public company. It's a private for profit corporation owned by Ben Shapiro, Jeremy Boreing, Caleb Robinson, and Farris Wilks. Giving them lots of money doesn't "support the cause" it just boosts their net worth. If the company was taken public, that would be a different story, but as long as it's a private for profit company, it exists to make its owners rich more than anything else. Nothing wrong with that as long as they offer an actually competitive product.
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I think the whole "Jeremy Boreing as god king" bit is stupid. I think they put him as the front man on these side hustles because he has nothing to do, unlike Shapiro who is churning out content. Jeremy Boreing comes across as effeminate to me to the point of almost seeming homosexual. Him trying to act like a cross between James Bond and Donald Trump doesn't work at all.
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If you don't know the logistics of how Daily Wire can launch a chocolate product in 24 hours, it is simple. You know how Costco has the Kirkland brand, and how supermarkets have their own "store" brands? Factories that produce products will wholesale those products out with the buyer's branding. China is famous for this especially since nobody wants to buy Chinese branded shit. (though China got better at fake branding and now dominates Amazon, for example) I would bet that all the chocolate factories in the US are already owned by brands. So basically all the Daily Wire did was contact a chocolate wholesaler and set up a contract to buy chocolate in bulk for a discount where the factory will print and package using the Daily Wire's branding. We have no way of knowing what the source of this chocolate is unless they admit it. It could be coming from China for all we know. It should be pretty obvious that DW is paying much less than $1.20 per bar, though.
The Right has to put up with a lot of grifters because the "establishment" doesn't serve us, and for now, we are a niche market which lacks the ordinary competitive checks and balances are more highly competitive market would have.
My main problem with Jeremy's Chocolate is that it is fundamentally disrespectful to charge people an insane markup 583% over Hershey's retail price, and then try to market it as "stick it to the wokes! support conservative business! we're building alternatives!" No you aren't. Stop lying. You're taking advantage. Fuck you.
Ben Shapiro, a grifter? Well I never.
Look boomers have a ton of disposable income and God knows they don’t want to spend it on their children and grandchildren. It’s got to go somewhere besides Thai mail order brides. So what if Jeremy and the gang get their beaks wet? Ben needs that money for Israel and to pay for his sister’s bras!
Considering they got their razors from China already? Probably a good bet.
I have definitely soured with Daily Wire over the last few years. Ben and Jeremy let their TDS and establishment tendencies lead them to making strange calls that are not helpful or not supported by the conservative base (although more Jeremy than Ben in this regard). Knowles is becoming a Neo-Evangelical like a lot of conservatives Catholics, even though most of the base wants to move on to "Culture War" and economic issues and has ceased to give a damn about religion (especially the puritanical strain that is effectively "Woke but Christian"). Klavan has lost his mojo over the years, I just cant put my finger on exactly what it is.
I just like to see Matt Walsh dunk on trannies.
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You say that like it's a bad thing, as though the abandonment of faith in God isn't what led to our current situation.
If that is what most of the base wants, then they are wrong, misguided, and doomed to fail. There is room for a conservative catholic voice or two, not every voice needs to all pander to the same mass of godless lolbertarians.
I am not saying they are wrong in their beliefs, or that they have no place. And I agree that faith is useful (I am a Lutheran after all). But the simple fact of the matter is if you are going around saying that video games are the devil and Anime is Satan, you are going to be losing a ton of your support. Especially since a ton of the people (especially younger) joining the conservative movement for the last decade or so have done it on the grounds of "I dont like SJW's censoring my games, movies, and jokes."
If you turn around and say "Cool. But we are going to censor your games, movies, and jokes for being satanic and ungodlike." Then they are going to say "Oh, so you havent changed since the '90's then" and walk off.
In fact, I would go so far as to argue that a lot of Trumps initial success and popularity is because he didnt overtly pander to Evangelicals.
Wasn't that Walsh? And half of what he says in tongue in cheek or deliberately provocative. You got trolled.
Who is saying this?
Knowles hasnt exactly had a lot of good to say about them either. But perhaps he has changed his mind and I am unaware. So if that is the case, I can walk back that part at least.
And it really doesnt matter if Walsh was saying it in jest. Plenty of people thought he was genuine. Doing it in jest is fine when you can make it obvious that is (even I have done that joke in company of Anime nerds). But since he didnt, plenty of people believe he was not trolling, and that is not helpful to anyone.
Seems pretty clear to me.
So if retards thought he was serious when it was obvious that he wasn't then it's his fault and not there fault for being stupid whiny hitches
Hurr durr he was only pretending to be retarded.
That's a legitimate argument when people walk something back suddenly claiming they suddenly started trolling or something.
He does it all the damn time though, it's clearly his style, his schtick. Go listen to him for 30 mins except at special events, if he hasn't done it 5 times, I'd be surprised. The anime is satanic one just made the news.
"[What do you think of anime?] I think it's all Satanic. I have no argument for it -- I have no argument for why it's Satanic, it just seems that way to me"
Are you seriously not at all suspicious that maybe there is a bit of either exaggeration or sarcasm there? Not just fleeing to a 'i was just trolling actually' position when there was no trolling in the first place, an actual initial position of at least exaggerating for comedic effect from the get-go there. Cmon, it's one step below 'it came to me in a dream'
Never implied that I think its his true belief, only that the "say something retarded for laughs" shtick is something retards do. It can work in rare cases, but he has a lot of hardcore listeners that legitimately think retarded shit like that and only get emboldened when he says it, so at some point the "come on guys he's obviously trolling lmao haha get trolled haha" falls flat. It might be worth a hearty chuckle from the seats of the Matt Walsh fan club but from the outside looking in it's just eye roll inducing. Not gung ho about people mentally associating the current right with satanic panic retardation either. That's honestly the bigger problem.
Except he's clearly joking. He has a dry sense of humor and will just say shit to piss people off sometimes. He literally trolls like an old fashioned troll. Probably because he was a minor shock jockey at one point
It doesn't matter whether or not he's actually joking. It is not helpful when he has listeners that unironically believe stupid shit like that. We aren't far removed from a time when that was a semi-mainstream opinion, and his fan base is exactly the place where you would expect to find people who are still that retarded.
Not to mention the fact that countless people who are just bystanders and only know about this from a legacy media article now associate the current right with satanic panic retardation. The "say something retarded that is not what I actually think but it's okay because I'm just joking" only works when the thing you're saying is so beyond ludicrous no one could believe it. Otherwise, the media is licking their lips at the softball they just got thrown as they look to take things out of context and make the right lose favor with anyone they can.
Oh great, now it's my turn.
"Hurr durr muh optics"
His listeners do not retard. That was you dumbfucks. His listeners were wondering why people were upset when he was obviously joking. Again responsibility lies with you butthurt tards
His coworkers are soy-swilling grifters. That wears on a man after a time.
I haven't heard anything about it in a while, but did you watch Shadiversity's video in which he went over the contract the Daily Wire offered Crowder, line by line? It was a ridiculously exploitative offer, to the point that it was outrageously insulting. When someone asks for a job or a partnership, your first offer shouldn't be suggesting they become slaves.
It showed a light on how Boering and Shapiro conduct business and how they really are, as people.
Yeah, I did. I also saw Nick Rekieta give his "as a lawyer" breakdown of it. And he even went further that not only is it a bad contract, it is a contract that you would never expect to see from people who are so called "friends". Because if you are making a contract with someone who you consider a friend, you would probably want to negotiate in good faith.
I don't think I've seen that one. Do you have a link to Rekieta's video on it?
Here.
Thank you. I saw there were 3 4-hour long videos about this on his channel on Rumble, and I was wondering if you meant those.
While I was also critical of the contract, this is taking it too far. Business are not charities, and your default assumption should be that they are trying to take advantage of you (which they are).
You don't get to be successful by being moral. It's just impossible. So I'm happy with the success that the Daily Wire has, regardless of some dubious business practices.
Jeremy can suck a dick. The dude is an egomaniac and I'm not buying any of his shit anymore than I'll buy Hershey. If big tech told him to stop selling chocolate he would immediately acquiesce.
Knowles it the only one with the right take on transgenderism though.
Matt Walsh, who has actively lobbied governors and written legislation regarding the transgender issue: "Am I a joke to you?"
Matt Walsh is excellent. But...
I see a lot of people on the right be very stupid about the matter. Knowles, as a Catholic (I assume), has a bit more grounding. He lately got it exactly right by pointing out that there can be no genocide against 'transgenders', because that is not a valid ontological category. He also said that genocide refers to genes, which is false, but he got the important part right.
This is something I've pointed out for a long time. Having a delusion does not put you in a different category, it just means that you have a delusion. "Trans" people do not exist, just like "cis" people do not exist.
The right will say stuff like "I WILL MISGENDER YOU", completely undermining its own position by buying into the premises of its opponents.
Fair point, and I do agree Knowles would be good for moving the Overton window back in that direction. But the reality of the situation is that the extreme edge you have to start with is "Will Misgender You", and start working back toward the center. Especially right now that there are a ton of people suddenly open to that view due to the Harry Potter shitshow.
And then once they are at the "Misgender" position, you start showing them Knowles and he starts telling them "But is it even real?"
If that whole thing backfired on them, I'll be very thrilled. Maybe the tide is turning, at long last.
I'm not at all criticizing Matt Walsh. I think he does great work. I just noted that Knowles is literally the only guy who some foundational stuff right, namely that 'transgender' is not a legitimate category of being. Walsh takes a very common sense approach, which probably does well in persuading people, but I like a more root and branch approach (which may follow, as you say).
I think you mistook that comment. It's not that Walsh correctly genders people, but that he uses the term "misgendering". If you buy into that premise, then you have already surrendered a lot of ground, and it's one of my pet peeves with the right. It should always be 'correctly gender'. They demand that we misgender them.
Sort of like Coffee Brand Coffee that The Quartering won't shut up about.
It's less political, but he's still charging 25$ a pound (CDN) BEFORE shipping, which is insane.
Wow. That's insane. I've paid five bucks for premium chocolate, and even then I've gotten a bar that was more than six ounces for my money.
Also, I did the math on Jeremy's Chocolate. Even if you go with the bulk option, buying a 20-pack for $80, it's still $4 per 1.5 oz bar.
The only thing that would justify that price is if the Daily Wire is partnering with some friendly neighbourhood chocolate maker that's too small to compete in Hershey's market and just sells to tourists and hipsters wanting to try locally made chocolate. If they're just drop-shipping from some established wholesaler then $7 for a 40 gram bar is ridiculous.
Guess that means they are paying them a few cents on the dollar. Anyone see the "negotiable" contract?
Oy vey, just business as usual. What's that little piece of cloth on Ben Shapiro's crown? He seems to never go without it, wonder what it stands for.
Black Flag. Gimme your booty.
They're substantiating the accusation that he's a grifter.
Daily Wire is pretty much only there to get Ben Shapiro rich. It was never a good faith effort at representing American interests
Hey guys, don't you see how sending our entire supply chain to China so we can get cheap shit shipped back to us is good for Americans?
Yeah, pretty much my reaction when I saw the price. Like you said, this isn't an alternative, this is just exploiting people who patronize RW companies.
Another win for the Daily Wire after the whole Crowder thing.
I'd be fine with the 'exploitation' if the money went into the company rather than the pockets of the owners (I don't know if either is the case).
Like I said previously, I'm a Daily Wire subscriber, so I'm not biased them at all. But when I looked if I could order this chocolate (they won't deliver to Europe), I had the same thing. I thought the measurements were off, and that 1.5 oz would be 150 grams (which would still be massively overpriced), but no. I saw no one commenting on it, so I figured that these prices were normal for chocolate in the US.
I'll nuance this somewhat. Obviously, companeis are going to charge as high a price as they can. And while it's not intentional, showing that there is great profit in conservative or at least apolitical products will encourage others to follow suit, which in turn drives down the price.
The only reason Jeremy can charge a 583% markup is because it's literally the only thing out there.
You have to consider the fact that Hershey's is a conglomerate with considerable production and distribution networks in place. This makes it easier for them to produce more for less, which translates to lower prices for consumers. One could also argue as to the quality of the chocolate, or lack thereof, and how that also merits a lower retail cost. I'm personally not enough of a connoisseur to know. Daily Wire, and Jeremy Boreing by extension, is not food processing conglomerate with an extensive production and distribution network. Multiple deals have to be made to get their brand out to the consumer. They may also require a higher standard for their product. This could very well be a grift, but I think it's unrealistic to expect Right-wing media companies to go into the candy business and have their customers expect retail store prices right out of the gate.
It's always cheaper to sell direct online like Daily Wire is doing than to sell through a retailer like Wal-Mart or Target, since the retailer demands a substantial cut in exchange for its shelf space.
They could literally just buy Hershey's bars off the shelf at Wal-Mart for $1.20 and rip the labels off and slap their own labels on, sell that shit for $1.50, and still make a profit.
So don't tell me $7 a bar is anything remotely close to a good faith number.
Definitely not. D2C is way way more expensive than shipping palettes to chain distributors (grocery, gas stations, pharmacies). One step down you still have cases, dozens and dozens of bars to one location.
Every single box going out with a different label and different tax nexus rules and potentially different shippers. You've got obvious scammers and people legit not getting stuff they ordered, and it's hard to do the right thing on one side without doing the wrong thing on the other side. Some pay with Paypal. Some direct with Visa/MC, some with other cards with different cuts off the top. Everything needs a box and padding and you need pickers and, honestly, it's why any company big enough to avoid selling direct does. Even big company "stores" that offer online direct to consumer shopping such as Microsoft actually farm it out to folks like Digital River.
$7 for chocolate? Yeah, too much, but maybe half of that number is there because of a lack of a more streamlined distribution network.
DW is passing shipping costs onto the customer, $5 shipping on a single $7 bar, so none of your arguments about supposed efficiencies in shipping costs apply. DW is making additional profit off of the shipping.
> thinks the costs are just shipping
It's amusing how little you actually know about logistics.
You're an idiot, your prior comment was stupid, and the fact that you came back at me with a pathetic attempt at pretentious condescension means we are done here after I shit on you
I just put a single chocolate bar into checkout. It's USD $12.53. For something I can get for $1.20 at the store. It's more than 10x the price. So don't cry to me about how hard it is to put something in a box and then drop it in the mail.
It absolutely is not. It is more profitable by far. The reason everyone does not do it is because you can't move nearly as much product that way. Real estate on retail store shelves is still very powerful. My GF works in the game industry and their online store sales are more profitable for them by far (and yes, they sell physical products), but they need retailers to move large volume because most consumers still buy shit at stores and not online.
The retailers demand, and get, a very large cut in exchange for the market power they possess. (access to consumers) Hell, this is Costco's whole business model.
No shit DW has to pay for "fulfillment", idiot, those costs are not high. Every person who has ever sold something on ebay has done it themselves. Shipping labels are automated and electronic. Putting something in a box and slapping a label on it is minimum-wage-tier work. The cost to DW per item is very low, to the point of being insignificant at scale.
And you're also wrong, and a total idiot. Do you even use the internet? Virtually everyone sells direct. The rare few who don't, primarily don't because their business model is heavily invested in retailers, and they have contracts with those retailers to not compete against them by selling direct, or by doing so only at prices that are far higher than the retailers. (Hersheys for example)
Automated, idiot. Stop trying to pretend this isn't a solved problem. Have you ever bought something online before? It's literally on the screen when you check out.
lol nope.
No, that's not true at all. It's an extremely rare issue that only became famously bigger with Amazon when they decided to be super lazy about it and invited people to scam them.
Yeah and it's tiny, about 1%, with some a little higher, and if the retailer doesn't like that, they don't have to allow it as an option. DW only allows normal credit cards, not shit like Paypal, which you didn't bother to look up.
Lots of companies subcontract lots of things for lots of reasons. Your argument is idiotic. "They don't do it because it's SO HARD OMGGGG". Oh? Then if it's too hard for big bad MSFT, why isn't it too hard for "Digital River"? Because the answer is that it's not hard.
And you're also wrong. As a consumer, I shop online all the time, and it's pretty universal that I can buy anything online, direct from whoever is selling it.
DW can easily do fulfillment themselves. If the factory they are buying from offers to do it for them at a competitive price, or some other contractor will do it, they might just go with that to save themselves the hassle of setting it up themselves, particularly since this is a one-off and not a sustainable product.
They could do that, and they could face a lawsuit.
I'm a lawyer. What would the grounds for the lawsuit be, exactly? Are you not allowed to re-sell the property that you purchased and own for some reason? Like I can't buy a chocolate bar and re-sell it to you? Do you think Hersheys has intellectual property rights in its chocolate bars? (assuming we are talking about the kind that don't have its name engraved into the chocolate)
It's called "reverse passing off." You can buy a Hershey's chocolate bar and resell it as a Hershey's chocolate bar, but if they make good chocolate they deserve the good reputation that comes with a good product.
Hershey's is a chockolate company.
Have you heard of the economics of scale?
You think maybe making a billion chocolates in factories is not the same thing as making, designing, getting FDA approval, marketing, and selling a gag gift that you expect to sell 1000 of?
DW is not creating a new supply chain and making artisan chocolate, they're just piggybacking on some existing factory and buying wholesale from them, so they get all the same benefit of economies of scale.
I guarantee you DW is not doing any of that. FDA approval? LOL. It's a chocolate bar, not a vaccine. Marketing? You mean posting on twitter? And sell 1000? They've already sold over 200k and counting.
Doesn't really annoy me. If you're dumb enough to buy it, you deserve to lose your money, especially if it's to neo-cons, controlled opposition, or establishment hacks.
Plenty of other options out there besides Hershey's and DW.
Than don't fucking buy it, holy shit.