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Propaganda: You Shouldn't buy a Switch now (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +15 / -0
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– nuggetpatrol 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Historically, getting in late for a console is never a bad thing. Some of the late games for a console when everyone else has moved on have been historically some of the best looking, and sometimes the most pricey to hold on to.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I got an amazing supply of games for the PS3, 360, and PS4 in a few months of going to shops and buying used. One convention I got several full series of games all for less than $10. So yes, it is a great time to grab a switch and look up games.

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– Adamrises 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Unfortunately, when talking about Nintendo games you will rarely get them at more than a few dollars below full price unless its third party or shovelware. They hate lowering the price until its only secondary markets and then its a short time before the "collectors" drive the price even higher.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Super Mario Odyssey is still 60$ on the Nintendo store.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

True, but now you know which games will stand the test of time.

If you want interesting, the New Super Mario Bros for DS was being sold for $35 5 years ago new at Best Buy. That is selling power. I have only seen that staying power with San Andreas for the XBox, which is still being sold in stores today.

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– Adamrises 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Disagree. It just tells you which are first party games for Nintendo. The newest Mario Golf, which basically nobody liked and was basically a failure in every sense, is still full price in most places years later. It failed the test of time on release and had people already just going back to prior entries.

Breath of the Wild, a launch title that literally everyone owns by this point, is still full priced. Which I guarantee will continue to be the case once the sequel comes out this year and makes that game entirely obsolete to even play.

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– Brennus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah Nintendo games tend to hold their value. Best bet for a discount is to buy used a little bit after release. For FE awakening I ended up paying full price used with no case.

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I wouldn't even call it holding value. Its entirely inflated by Nintendo's staunch refusal to discount anything, which means secondary markets never lower the price beyond a token handful of dollars.

Of course this then gives the future market an absurd idea of what a game's value actually is, well above anything in reality. Especially as Nintendo games are probably the easiest of all consoles ever to emulate.

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– coke501 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I wouldn't even call it holding value

If Nintendo can get away with not lowering their prices it is exactly that. I mean, as you said these games even have high prices on the secondary market. This wouldn't happen if people weren't ready to pay these prices.

Also: They have every right to demand any amount of money they deem reasonable. It's up to the customer to accept the proposal. As I always say: I will never blame the one that asks for ridiculous amounts of money for worthless garbage.

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I think we are using two different definitions of value. I am talking about intrinsic value, as in the game is worth that dollar amount. Whereas you are using just raw dollar amount as the value.

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– coke501 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And you decide what the game is worth?

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– FrozeInFear 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Somewhat related question: if they're planning to release a new console, when does a company stop releasing games for their older console?

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– dismybrowseacct 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I expect they'll do backwards compatibility somehow. Digital games should be easier to convert to new console. The hard copies will be questionable if its worth the cost.

They won't want to stop making money. For other consoles there was an announcement then you'll see info on the game details screen explaining what it supports.

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– Cyberguy64 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Nintendo is usually pretty good about backwards compatibility. The Switch has been unique, in using a completely different medium for it's games, and thus, being incompatible with the Wii U. Hence all the ports.

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– LauriThorne 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I bet they'll continue with the cartridge format because I'm guessing they'll continue with the portable format.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

When the games stop selling. We still have games being made for the PS3, and Wii.

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– FrozeInFear 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Where would they sell those? Or would that just be in the respective digital stores?

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I found them on Amazon. I guess retailers may have them, but I haven't checked.

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– MegoThor 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

According to Sony, two years and counting.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– elleand202 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

My guess is that a Switch 2 will be backwards compatible with the same architecture so devs can just target Switch 1 and 2 together and tack on enhancements for play on the 2, like how games on the PS4 and 5 are handled.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

You shouldn't buy a Switch at any time between 2017 and the heat death of the universe. Fuck the Nintendo Switch.

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– acp_k2win 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

They are dropping BotW2 probably this year. Thats overall one of the best gaming experiences out there when it comes to immersion even if the graphics are an acquired taste.

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– coke501 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Thats overall one of the best gaming experiences

BotW was. We'll have to wait and see how BotW2 turns out.

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– MrPim 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

March 12. Not probably at this point.

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– acp_k2win 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

wewt

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Dumb filler article. So am I to assume that prospective Switch buyers have already played it's whole existing library? Or are true gamers only allowed to play games less than six months old and with the highest FPS available or have their gamer card taken away?

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– SarcasticRidley 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I still haven't bought a switch, because I'm poor and my money is worth less every day.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It took me a bit to grab one.

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– dekachin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Wrong:

  1. Nintendo has already stated it won't release anything new this year.

  2. It will likely do a hardware update only in 2024, and when that happens the "old" switch will only be discounted slightly.

  3. Nintendo games are not processor-intensive and their consoles, when successful like the Switch is, last much longer than the Sony/Xbox shit.

I bought a switch for my GF for her bday so she could do the workout games with it, lol, no regrets.

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– TomSeeSaw 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If BOTW2 runs like a dog, you'll know that it has been created for a successor system that they haven't released as yet.

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– TerpenoidTester 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Isn't steam deck better?

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Yes and no. It is more powerful, but the abilities everyone talks about takes a lot of fiddling to do.

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– paraguayan_observer 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't know, article... I don't want to have anything to do with Playstation and Xbox barely exists here so...

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– TomSeeSaw 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yuzu and Ryujinx. Fed up paying stupid prices for games.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I decided to pull the trigger on Xbox One X right before they were discontinued, having wanted to upgrade from my large noisy original model and expecting a debacle on the Series X launch. I’ve gone a lot more PC in the last year, but so far there has been ONE whole game I’ve played on my PC that would have required a new gen console. To me, it seems with every new generation the usefulness of diving headfirst into the newest hardware gets to be less and less. It’s still very much presented as a must have, but I guess all these publications are really advertising in disguise anyway.

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– Hellsbells00 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Given them trying to charge for multiplayer jow, fuck em you shouldn't buy any console. Just wait a few years and emulate all of it.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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