The big difference is guns. The UK police know they can do this because at worst they'll have to deal with a half-drunk 35 year old with a set of garden sheers.
Isn't it funny how when Twitter banned the sitting president the left was like "They're a private company! Nothing we can do." But when they let him back on, suddenly twitter needs to be regulated by the government. Funny how that works.
I accept Yarvin's take here that the tech companies are being used as scapegoats and the government is pushing them to censor through backchannels. Though for the most part it doesn't have to push very hard.
Are there any free nations on the planet? If RandomCountry32 is free, it's most definitely still under the thumb of globohomo in at least some respects.
Not free like America where the govt outsourced the silencing of free speech to left coast tech companies.
It's worse, they outsourced it to foreign agents of Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. And when 4chan caught them, the entire federal bureaucracy came down on the channers.
Germany lost that right decades ago. They manipulate voters through their massive force-funded state-controlled public media network and clamp down on everything right of Stalin in every way they can, including with stuff like that "Network Enforcement Law" or in short "NetzDG" - the reason why people often receive mails that their social media messages got blocked in Germany. Its not a fight for votes, its a war on information.
And if that didnt work, they also can get practical. One great example is the Thuringia government crisis in 2020. One from the FDP (Free Democrats), Kemmerich, got voted in - with the help of votes from the right-wing AfD (Alternative for Germany). Massive outcry from media and other politicians, with mentions that its "unforgivable" and "a disgrace", including from Chancellor Angela Merkel, who said that was "an unforgivable event that must be reversed". He got bullied out and "forced" (or pressured) to resign, and Ramelow (Leftist party) came in
Basically pressured and bullied into giving up his position - including by the CDU, CSU and SPD - and by his own parties chairman, Christian Lindner. Maybe "forced" is a wrong word for it.
All of this - not even because a guy from the "wrong muh right wing party" got voted in - but because a "Free Democrat" got voted in with the help of votes from the "wrong party".
its not that they didnt have the balls to do it. its that they were working hand in hand with commies anyways. America didnt persecute soviet communists either yet they persecuted nazis
Oh those wacky Germans. Gotta censor all speech, after all, the big bad Austrian guy was a huge proponent of free speech and free exchange and publishing of ideas.
Any country that criminalizes speech it doesn't like loses the right to call itself a democracy.
Still better then Uk or Germany. It may not be perfect but is still ahead for now.
Yep, I don't want either to happen.
But I'll take getting banned off of twitter or social media, over government agents with the force of law showing up at my door.
The big difference is guns. The UK police know they can do this because at worst they'll have to deal with a half-drunk 35 year old with a set of garden sheers.
Twitter banned the President of the United States and faced absolutely no consequences. We're not ahead of anybody.
Isn't it funny how when Twitter banned the sitting president the left was like "They're a private company! Nothing we can do." But when they let him back on, suddenly twitter needs to be regulated by the government. Funny how that works.
I accept Yarvin's take here that the tech companies are being used as scapegoats and the government is pushing them to censor through backchannels. Though for the most part it doesn't have to push very hard.
Are there any free nations on the planet? If RandomCountry32 is free, it's most definitely still under the thumb of globohomo in at least some respects.
And if they try to reduce the influence, the entire world will wage war on them.
It's worse, they outsourced it to foreign agents of Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. And when 4chan caught them, the entire federal bureaucracy came down on the channers.
Germany lost that right decades ago. They manipulate voters through their massive force-funded state-controlled public media network and clamp down on everything right of Stalin in every way they can, including with stuff like that "Network Enforcement Law" or in short "NetzDG" - the reason why people often receive mails that their social media messages got blocked in Germany. Its not a fight for votes, its a war on information.
And if that didnt work, they also can get practical. One great example is the Thuringia government crisis in 2020. One from the FDP (Free Democrats), Kemmerich, got voted in - with the help of votes from the right-wing AfD (Alternative for Germany). Massive outcry from media and other politicians, with mentions that its "unforgivable" and "a disgrace", including from Chancellor Angela Merkel, who said that was "an unforgivable event that must be reversed". He got bullied out and "forced" (or pressured) to resign, and Ramelow (Leftist party) came in
Interesting. How did they force him to resign?
Basically pressured and bullied into giving up his position - including by the CDU, CSU and SPD - and by his own parties chairman, Christian Lindner. Maybe "forced" is a wrong word for it.
Here a wiki article (beware, its like the rest of Wikipedia left-wing biased): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierungskrise_in_Th%C3%BCringen_2020
Here an archive from March 2020: https://archive.ph/37ZLP
All of this - not even because a guy from the "wrong muh right wing party" got voted in - but because a "Free Democrat" got voted in with the help of votes from the "wrong party".
Democracy is a meme.
Muh democracy. Who gives a fuck anymore, it's clear democracy is just for dumbasses that think voting matters.
"hate speech" or speech that they hate?
Same difference. They can try to call it "fake news" or "hate speech" anything that lets them shove it under the rug.
My favorite is "hate facts"
They never truly got rid of the Stasi did they?
they didn't execute every agent of it, so they just filtered out into the rest of society.
They integrated the STASI into the current government because they didn’t have the balls to prosecute ANYONE.
its not that they didnt have the balls to do it. its that they were working hand in hand with commies anyways. America didnt persecute soviet communists either yet they persecuted nazis
Shitpostnacht
How do you say "Night of Cancelled Tweets"
Oh those wacky Germans. Gotta censor all speech, after all, the big bad Austrian guy was a huge proponent of free speech and free exchange and publishing of ideas.
🎶 And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know the holocaust never happened 🎶
So it's another day ending in "y"
Any day now the german goverment will arrest themsleves.
Out of sight is not out of mind, Citizen.
i thought the Stasi was abolished? Guess not
Germany.
For fuck sake.
Stop being Nazi.
We sent 15 FBI agents to “investigate a noose” :
https://archive.ph/2022.12.01-095344/https://www.witf.org/2020/06/24/fbi-nascars-bubba-wallace-was-not-the-target-of-a-hate-crime/
I'm pretty sure China is more subtle about their political censorship
Nazis goin natz.