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Do you think people would pay for this voluntarily if they weren't threatened with violence? (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +53 / -0
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– ailurus 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

Problem #1: Tragedy of the commons in action. If it's "public", then it is someone else's job to take care of it.

Problem #2: Everything government does costs orders of magnitude more. See John Stossel's report from 2017 on a $2 million bathroom in NYC

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

"Public" just means the people who own it, the people who use it, and the people who maintain it are all different parties, so none of them have any motivation to do their part properly.

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– joeyjojoshabadoo1 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Who is like...the 137th person to use this toilet? What kind of human voluntarily steps into a place like that?

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– FuckGenderPolitics 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

A junkie looking for a place to shoot up.

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– zakat 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'd rather walk in any store and say "Here's $10 can I use your toilet please?"

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Here's how you keep them much cleaner, and much less expensed to maintain:

Set up a charge, a credit card tap lock, that is two bucks to use the toilet. But then only reserve the two bucks, and unreserve it a day later. No actual charge made.

Then, put a simple poster inside that features a face looking forward, and a request "keep our commons clean, we have your credit card info".

The mere screening act of requiring someone nearby to own a credit card will cut vandalism by 95%, and the image of eyes being present will also discourage asocial behaviors. Public restroom, it will get nasty, but the nastiness levels would be far more manageable.

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– Assassin47 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

Also don't be Portland.

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– ParadigmShift2070 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

kick out the niggers and beaners, destroyed public restrooms has never been a white or Asian problem

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– PraiseBeToScience 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

or Asian problem

Japanese or Korean.

Han Chinese are just as disgusting as a homeless junkie.

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– speeeeeee 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It would work, right up until some parasitic social service agency gets a bunch of credit/debit cards to issue to their "clients" so they can shit up these restrooms with impunity.

The Homeless/Druggie Industrial Complex is out of control.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– reidj 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I strongly suspect the reason this bathroom was built was so homeless people would use it instead of going in the street.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

How the hell is it that expensive? It must be contracted to the mayor's cousin or some shit.

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– the_nybbler 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

You'll notice it's basically structurally intact despite the abuse. That costs money.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Portland Proof Toilets

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0
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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

> it's basically structurally intact despite the abuse

ironically this also applies to Portland itself.

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– PraiseBeToScience 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Mandatory prevailing wage laws. And I mean the thing looks like it's indestructible.

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– Ricky_CIA 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

All taxation is theft.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– almond_activator 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Sounds like an opportunity to run a parallel highway at $140 to me.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

The free market will determine the true cost of using a highway. And it will be cheaper than the amount of money the government STEALS from you to "maintain" the roads.

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– almond_activator 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

"Who will build the roads?" is my favorite argument against any sort of limit on the size and scope of government.

Who do you think builds them now? Private contractors paid with stolen money.

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Based.

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– bloodguard 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Setup an AI camera to lock the doors and not open them until they clean up whatever mess they made. If they're in there more than 10 minutes lock the door and call the cops (or activate the steam cleaning/charred body disposal function).

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– BetterNameUnfound 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

So much damage was done to that left...thing...that I can't even tell what it IS.

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– RoulerBleu 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I would guess there was a trashcan there.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

How can some people be this fucking disgusting? I'd not even shit up the bathroom of my worst enemy like that(I'd do the seethrough-foil over the toilet prank though, I'm not a saint).

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– Adamrises 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Junkies getting high and homeless loitering is how it happened, not by any "proper" use.

That's the reason why we can't have anything in public spaces anymore. Anything that isn't bolted down, covered in spikes, and patrolled constantly will become their filth.

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– user20461 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

https://nitter.net/MrAndyNgo/status/1584397891816558593

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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