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There is a hard push against remote work right now. (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +31 / -0
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– Lurker404 55 points 3 years ago +55 / -0

They championed remote work as the future and now it's killing their precious cities.

The only downside is that the rats fleeing the sinking ship will end up in rural areas and small cities and they bring their poisonous politics with them.

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– Smith1980 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

You make a good point. After covid they put us on a hybrid schedule and I have thought about moving further out since I only would have to drive into work 2 days a week but like you said if I have thought about it then plenty of others have thought the same thing, and one thing I've learned about lefties is that as much as they hate us, they oddly want to live in our communities

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– SR388-SAX 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

and one thing I've learned about lefties is that as much as they hate us, they oddly want to live in our communities

I listened in on this exact conversation at a work retreat (tech company) in Montana. The statement was, essentially, "Wow, it's gorgeous out here and the towns are so nice. But there are so many crazy political signs."

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– Smith1980 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

And then they get upset when you ask them why they move there

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– deleted 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0
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– JuliasEbola00 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

In Ireland it killed the country too, because people decided that cities were too expensive, so they moved to country. Before that the country was somewhat untouched by housing issues, now the issues are spread throughout the nation.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

We've got one in my small town. Literally, one person with a BLM sign and a buttsex flag in their yard, who just moved here. No one else has political allegiances in their yard. I'm really worried more people are going to start putting up BLM signs due to peer pressure and turn the entire town into a terrorist-worshiping cult like everywhere else.

I would 100% have put on a mask and trashed their yard by now if not for the fact that it's on the main road into town. There's no way anyone could get away with it, and I don't really want to go to prison for 150,000 years for hate crimes.

I really don't know what to do.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I've considered it, either that or some teens. Maybe putting out an anonymous bounty. Problem is, being a small town, nobody uses the internet except to use Facebook so I don't know how I'd get the word out anonymously.

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– LordLavaLamp 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Bus in some people from out of town. It's what the leftist agitators do, why not use it against them?

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– ghostfox1_ 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Remote work has its problems too. Namely lack of interaction, and enabling lazy fucks who don't actually have jobs.

Also, if your job can 100% be remote, you can be outsourced. Something to think about.

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– SR388-SAX 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Ehh, I've worked with outsourcing teams before. You absolutely get what you pay for.

Especially with international outsourcing. If you don't have talented people on your side evaluating the work, you're going to get garbage.

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– Assassin47 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Most companies are fine with producing garbage these days.

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– ArtemisFoul 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Yeah. Cause everyone does it and customers are used to it. And what are you going to do, use another company? They outsource too! Probably to the same Indian sweatshop!

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Anyone with the ability to learn has figured out that third world labor gets you third world results. If someone wants something that actually works, they still go domestic.

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– DemolitionsPanda 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I have friends who were on the forefront of electronic manufacturing since the early 2000s. One of the things they have been consistent about is that outsourcing to China gets all of your IP stolen. The CCP will pressure your company to pick a local partner company, then train them up to do the work. They will be running knock-off copies out the back door using the same skills, equipment and training that you have paid for.

Outsourcing to India is worse, but for different reasons. The factory in India explained that they had to buy parts from a certain supplier, because they had a relationship with them. When it was pointed out that the parts were stub-standard, did not pass QC and would require the entire production run to be scrapped, the Indians basically didn't care. They would rather maintain their relationships and get their kickbacks than do useful work.

South America has been much better. Mexico is okay, as long as it is close enough to the border.

All of these extended supply chains are going to fall into a screaming heap if the price of diesel fuel keeps going up. Saving three dollars on a part is useless if shipping costs seven dollars.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Indeed. So what you do is grab your employer by the balls. Be the only person who knows how your company's systems work, and they can never fire you.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Another article said the same about outsourcing.

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– AntonioOfVenice 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Cui bono?

Well, I'd be against remote work if I owned properties in places that will be made partly obsolete by remote work. Office and home space in New York and San Francisco, for example.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Buzzfeed had offices in downtown New York for no real reason. The entire company could be remote, but the owner wanted it this way.

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– weezkitty 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I was working remotely in 2020 and it sucked. It breaks the isolation between work and home life plus it is harder to build connections and socially isolated.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

My guess is most of the competent workers are realizing they don't need the company. They can work 3-4 jobs without really trying because the majority of the work is paperwork or checking balances. If this is true, than the company is a lot smaller than it appears. If a company can't grow monetarily, it tries to grow staff to show to investors. This is why YouTube has its own office, when this could be done by ten people. Remote Work defeats that trick, and investors are no longer interested.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

It's probably a lot of things. I've been working remotely for ~10 years, and when almost everyone started doing it I noticed the following:

  • Everything suddenly necessitated a meeting, even things that used to be handled by simple email or chat.
  • Impromptu phone calls and voice stopped entirely whereas it used to be used infrequently.
  • The people whose jobs required being in the office started to resent having to be the "eyes and hands" for the people who worked remotely while receiving nothing in return and still being responsible for their own work.

I've definitely noticed a slowdown in the pace of things, but I think a lot of it can be laid at the feet of all the meetings and people having to wait for a meeting to occur before they can do something.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

That reads like the people in charge don't know how to run a remote worker office, and have compensated with bad ideas and resentment.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That is accurate. And I have no reason to assume it was the exception and not the rule.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– lgbtqwtfbbq 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Mangers at big companies are no longer allowed to competently manage people, because to do would harm their Diversity and Inclusion scores and therefore their careers.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You have made a true point there.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

And being relatively low on the totem pole.

I learned long ago that when I depended on people's physical presence I had to offer them something in return so they didn't feel taken advantage of. Unfortunately that apparently wasn't a lesson everyone on my team had learned.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– covok48 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Sucker.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I worked with a guy in his 60s who would come in every day during peak WuFlu insanity while all the 30-something engineers were at home.

He used to half-joke that he was the only one in the department with any sort of statistical chance of dying if he got sick, yet he had to be in the office while almost everyone else didn't.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I said, ‘OK, well, people will want to go back to normality. So, let’s strike while the iron’s hot.’ I didn’t know the iron was lukewarm.”

Rofl, imagine thinking people will want to go back to commuting to an office to do a job they can do from home.

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– covok48 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

My company kept us home for 2 1/2 years and was shocked we didn’t want to go back in every single day.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– covok48 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

LoL sorry you have to go into the office everyday to do shit you could do at home.

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– GeneralBoobs 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, because every person works in an office and no other job exists in the world. Fuck off, cunt.

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– Smith1980 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

When covid started we were full time at home and now we do a hybrid schedule (I go in two days a week) and everyone likes it. Saves me a lot on gas as well. I have a job that requires zero customer service and zero human interaction so it is perfect for working at home.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

As others have said its a bit of a double edged show, it reduces the influence of cities but risks leftists moving into rural and spoiling it.

I think so long as you gatekeep by not having a Starbucks, having enough old school guys that remind you of Clint Eastwood in Grand Torino and pass enough anti left laws (no to maiming kids etc) that seems to keep them contained in their hellholds.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Perhaps that is one of the reasons why we have riots and other pushes because the democrat's power Is waning. They can't control the cities anymore, and the countryside has ways to make sure it stays red.

On the other hand, I look at pictures of one of my hometowns, and can't find my house because of all the new housing around it.

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– GeneralBoobs 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Let them eat cake.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

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