I know I need to get off of facebook, but I have a ton of cousins and it is the best way to keep in touch with everyone but I really need to stop reading comments on things.
I got sucked into a little argument because someone posted about George Floyd. I guess he was angry because he along with other "protesters" from the summer of love were being told that they worship Floyd and he took exception to that because he said speaking out against police brutality. I told him that it was possible to be against police brutality while also not making a martyr out of people. Like giving Floyd a golden casket funeral like he was some medal of honor winner during the "deadly" covid pandemicthat apparently didn't affect rioters. Also asked him why they don't bother to examine the actual facts of these shootings since pretty much all of them involve not listening to the cops or resisting.
Long story short he wasn't thrilled with that. I asked if he fought against police brutality when Tony Tympa died (of course he hadn't heard of him) and when I mentioned David Dorn he said that Dorn wasn't killed by peaceful protesters.
Long story short he told me I was following white supremacist talking points and blocked me when I said that apparently white supremacy means not doing things that attract the cops.
I still don't understand why people don't realize you can be against police brutality and hold cops accountable while also not worshipping people and making them saints. Interesting how the whole "you can't talk about their past" rules went out the window with Ashli Babbit.
Feminized men, it’s the exact same type of encounter I just had last night. Dude went from “I love the military” to threatening to fight me because I told him Trump had declassification powers, and gave historical examples of fbi and journalistic corruption. They want to follow the narrative because they are weak, emotional and fear being ostracized. I just ended up laughing in his face after he legitimately said “do we need to take this outside”. These people have been broken by social media and tds, they are the 33% who get their news solely from social media websites.
"The FBI has literally never done anything wrong."
"Ah so you agree the FBI was right to assassinate Martin Luther King jr?"
"... >:( "
Where do we get our news?
Random time traveling conspiracy frogs on the internet. I get the news six months to two years in advance.
It'd be funnier if it weren't so goddamn true.
I don’t have social media, so the apple news I have curated for sjw stupidity like the Atlantic. My google is curated for purely gaming news. Everything else is podcasts/ Blaze.
Me? Conflict? Never. My mom says I’m an angel
I agree. Forums give space to at least flesh out hot takes a bit.
Meh it’s old school social media. Not look at me social media.
This is a "forum" and all of us are hiding behind personas. While there's some overlap social media is a different thing.
"Social Media" is a place where you post what you ate, selfies and publish your life and do a whole lot of virtue signaling. It's tied to 'you'. That's why I don't do social media as I have no desire to publish my life (and it has ostracized me somewhat). I do have a linkedin account for purely professional reasons and I'm constantly amazed at what a cesspool it's become and how people will just spew their idiocy on there as if that isn't going to affect their employability.
I'm as guilty of that as you are, but I don't think our 'news diet' is any better than that of the average NPC. The difference is that we know to be critical of the media.
I would say that we read the news for a different reason. They read the news as gospel, we read it to find the flaws.
Exactly. Also the difference with NPCs when it comes to government policies. We look for reasons to be critical, they look for reasons to defend it.
I'm glad I was in the Air Force before things went crazy. Did the guy calm down?
I was twice his size, I just laughed in his face and told him if he didn’t want to keep talking he could just shut up. He seethed a bit, finished his beer and left.
Ser Gregor Clegane meets Tyrion?
More like the hound meets the bald dude that had aryas rapier. It’s always funny when some dumbass gets liquid courage and suddenly thinks they can fight. Then again I’m used to going out drinking with marines and occasionally college football players I lift with so someone usually has to pretty drunk to get that ballsy.
Chef's kiss.
Excuse will likely be that it was not reported on in the news. Well, then are you going to stop following and blindly trusting this 'news' of yours? No, no, not that. Not to push any sort of agenda, but I have had this same response when asking people why they didn't care about Ukraine bombing Donetsk for 8 years. (I respect every opinion if it is the person's own, not copied from the media.)
I fantasize about trapping some of the nitwits here in Europe by denying police brutality. When they reply with George Floyd, I will say that if it had happened to a white person, they would not have known or cared. They will respond by saying that it does not or would not happen to white people. And then I say: in fact, it did, his name is Tony Timpa, and you neither knew nor care about it. (Unfortunately, I'm no longer at university so there is a limit to how aggressive and hostile I can be.)
I mean, after your color evolution in November 2020, it was inevitable that you would complete the process and become a white supremacist.
Division is what creates power. If you advance objectives everyone agrees with, like that Chauvin was wrong (which is 90%+ opinion), then you are not creating power for your movement. So you must shift the debate in such a way to force a large number of people to disagree with you, and you do that by being unreasonable.
This was also the explanation in an article about why BLM mostly focused on supposed victims who were terrible people and who were in the wrong, like Michael Brown, rather than more innocuous people like that cigarette salesman or Walter Scott.
I first heard about no knock warrants because it happened to an elderly white couple who the cops went to by mistake. Also a white guy was mistakenly killed but that didn’t matter since it didn’t feed the narrative. But you are right. So many blm “heroes” were resisting violently. Even Floyd didn’t listen to the cops. I’ve said police brutality affects everyone so it should be an issue that unites races since there are cases with people of all races. But that will never happen.
Eric Garner was the cigarette guy. They made it about race when there was no evidence plus the supervisor of the cops was black. No evidence with Floyd of race issues either.
I know Candace Owens is coming out with a documentary exposing blm. Granted blm has pretty much exposed themselves as money grubbing liars but hoped she can do more damage
True. It is a shame that it lead to his death over a stupid law.
Philando Castile also comes to mind. As far as I can tell, his only "crime" was informing a police officer at a traffic stop for a broken taillight that he was carrying a licensed firearm. The officer panicked and shot him, believing that he was reaching for said firearm.
I respect that officers put their lives on the line, but they have training, while civilians do not. If routine traffic stops are always going to be tense life-and-death situations, without citzens knowing the rules, we need some sort of reform.
garner is basically the one case blm talks about that i give them full props on. he wasn't a threat to anyone. they should have just taken his smokes and told him to fuck off. they killed him for no reason.
The dude resisted arrest and was just so fucking fat he died
they had no grounds to arrest him.
Yes they did. It's entirely legal and constitutional to arrest for misdemeanors unless your state law says otherwise
nothing he was doing warranted arrest. take his shit, write him a ticket, and move on.
Your thinking that they should not have arrested him is not the same thing as their not having grounds to arrest him.
I disagree with just ticketing him especially since I recall him being a repeat offender. Broken windows theory is legitimate. You cannot allow "small" infractions to go unpunished or larger cracks will appear.
Unfortunately blm has cried wolf so much that they can’t be taken seriously. Yea that was an idiotic law. Only thing was they framed it around race when there was no evidence of that. They should’ve gone after that law
Along with Tony Timpa, Daniel Shaver is another harrowing example. I can't even watch the video of his slaughter without my pulse rising and my face getting hot.
These things don't matter to the kinds of people you're talking to, however. As Jonathan Swift said: "You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place."
Also, these people have been trained by decades of completely faulty education, to never accept that they've lost a point and use that to modify their own conclusions, or to accept an opponent's proven point and compromise. They've been trained that in the event that they've lost any argument, to run back to a "trusted authority" that agrees with them, and use that to simply dismiss any opposition out of hand. People who consider themselves "the smart ones" have been indoctrinated as severely as any Scientologist, and to lose an argument pertaining to one of their sacred positions is a threat to their entire sense-of-self.
Their self-worth and self-schema of being "smarter" is bundled into their obeisance to the orthodoxy. If the orthodoxy were to lose an argument through them, the entire delusion of intellectual and moral superiority might be shown for the fraud it is. Any given argument might seem like not such a big deal to you, but for them it could provoke a total mental breakdown.
Yea, that Shaver video is very hard to watch. I didn't even learn about that case til Matt Walsh played the video in one of his shows I was watching.
Walsh has written a lot for Reason magazine, and I don't remember if it was him, but Reason was writing a lot about police brutality and shootings way before BLM. Of course Reason's coverage was race neutral, focusing on unaccountable cops as the bad guys instead of white cops.
It's also funny because no one ever doubted that blacks bore a lot of police brutality, having more encounters with the police and being criminals more often. Reason probably wouldn't go "despite making up only 13%..." but any sane person could figure it out. It was a message that was intended to benefit the black community, along with you know everyone else. Libertarians also didn't deify the fucking criminals: the message was that criminals are bad whether they are working for the police for or not.
Yep I remember that about reason. That’s how I learned about a lot of cases. Larry Elder made your exact point. If you have a high crime rate of course there will be more interactions. Of course he got called a white supremacist for discussing actual solutions instead of blaming racism.
Sorry, dude. You can't help people who have been propagandized.
Well you can, if you remove them from the addiction source.
Cutting someone off from the internet and all media, along with contact with other propagandized individuals doesn't really seem feasible in the modern era.
I’d say if you can get them off algorithm feeds it makes a huge difference
Maybe, but people tend to surround themselves with people who reinforce their beliefs, so even if you cut them off from their media feed, they're still gonna have their friends going off about whatever propaganda's trending on Twitter or wherever. You can cut them off from the tech, but they're still gonna get their updates via their social circle so it's an incomplete solution.
In my experience what it comes down to is if they are feminine/ emotional. Being a soyboy is like a drug addiction, they dont want help they just want the feels. I've got plenty of guys I can work on because they can be rational over feelings.
If they're older, persuading them to turn off that TV is a start. Especially rolling news.
That's true. I just need to ignore comment sections.
The irony of course is that the police are the reason a not insignificant number of peaceful protestors are still alive. Were it not for the threat of the police arresting people, hastily assembled militias would have given them all a whiff of grape shot.
And for all the talk of small businesses they didn’t seem to care about all the small business owners losing their businesses. I guess that’s why it pisses me off when I hear endless outrage over Jan 6.
What part of her past was bad, wasn't she honorably discharged or something? Like she was literally a veteran and she was speaking truth to power when some pig shot her in the head, this would be gold for the left except that she was WHITE, Christian, conservative, and protesting an election they stole.
Nothing i know of was bad. She was a fellow Air Force veteran. I guess I should've said "the you can't speak ill of the dead rule" because most of the media demonized her. I haven't heard anything bad about her. But with Floyd, heaven forbid you mention his long rapsheet or him being high on drugs.
These retards were performing miracles at the site of his OD. I've read stories about troon enablers worshipping a demonic entity called "The Great Queer One". They absolutely worship these vile creatures. We use the term religion as a descriptor, not an insult.
No need to rely on secondhand stories. Crowder has the footage.
You are probably right.
Police->Shot->black, instant racism, even if justified. I think this whole shit started with Saint Skittles when that one kid got shot by Zimmerman, no one saw how fucking beaten up he was, even I thought it suspicious at first but then seeing his state he thought for his life. That's how it works, at least I tried to seek out the truth, that sheep you argued with never did and never will seek out the truth behind things.
This is literal deification, look at some of the graffiti people made of Floyd making him look like Jesus Christ or something. That's all intentional, people looking for a martyr for their movement("thank you george floyd for sacrificing your life for justice" said by Pelosi). This whole atheism movement doesn't look so hot anymore, does it? A lot of these people are atheists, they worship a guy who put a gun at a pregnant woman's stomach and was an addict. They follow a movement that is a known scam, destroy property and kill people for their dark god.
Yea Zimmerman looked bad. Granted they told him not to confront him, but the evidence points to the fact he was being beaten down and was justified. I looked into the story as well because even back then I was skeptical of the media due to the fact that they have no problems twisting the facts in cases like this.
I forgot Pelosi said that. Wow! Yea the murals are just embarrassing.
Probably the worst mask off moment I have ever seen if you ask me. "thank you for giving me the chance to get some more power out of this" is basically what she meant.
At some point in a weak man's life he will realize his weakness. And then he has two paths before him. The first is to accept his weakness and make the best of the life he was given, and the second is to rage against the "unfairness" of God (or society, or "the system") for not rearranging itself so that his weakness isn't a drawback.
The first path requires humility, patience, and costs endurance, sometimes loneliness, and frequently pain. The second path tempts with the gratification of righteous indignation and provides a permanent excuse to avoid any kind of self-reflection and acceptance of responsibility.
Ultimately the man who makes the 2nd choice achieves less than even weaker men who choose the first path.
That's on you. It's okay to have a retarded cousin, you don't have to play in the mud with them.
The trash let itself out.
The phrase "blood is thicker than water" is usually misinterpreted. The full saying is "blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb." Your family is important, yes, as a 1st line of in-group to protect and defend each other. Mutually. If someone's not on board, you shouldn't sacrifice yourself to preserve it.
The main thing that the left loves to ignore and the right sometimes doesn't put their foot hard down enough on, accountability.
One of the simplist yet easiest methods for this with police was body cams, it stopped A TON of complaints as now, they knew they were monitored in all their actions and people were less likely to file bad faith complaints as they had video evidence.
But this level of accountability is not practiced by your BLM, capitol police or FBI, how many times have you heard "they were in fear for their lives, they aren't responsible for their actions". They put people aloft so they can't be held accountable for past transgressions, only the incident that got them into the news. Reminds me of that Bill Burr sketch on hitting a woman.
Yep, I heard that stat about police cameras. I know in the Breonna Taylor case they didn't have their cameras on which hurt them because you knew the media would push a certain narrative. And blm doesn't know the meaning of accountability. Jacob Blake was a clear cut case of someone resisting violently and they still rioted over him.
Make an account somewhere else. Send some people the link. Delete your account and don't look back.
Optional: Change the email address then delete that email address.
They want to be right about everything and any inconvenience is either ignored or enrages them further. They must constantly be the victim. It is the only way. Either that, or they must face reality that bad things happen to good people and there is almost often no consequences or reasons why. Also that they, themselves, are bad people who are the villains in life who only create victims.
It's easier fooling people than convincing them of being duped. Attempting such becomes far more difficult when they're fooled into revering their chains. You may as well consider salvation for them as a fool's endeavor. No amount of information or education will cure foolishness. Only harsh lessons from suffering suffice.
There is no nuance when it comes to people unable to think for themselves. Not only are their minds easily captured and enraptured, they are unaware of it. Even if they reach awareness, the rationalization of sunk costs will keep them anchored. Everyone within their social sphere should also bound to the stake of collective narcissism. Cults do not tolerate dissidence. Therefore, anything contradicting the collective view must be discarded, lest their false self idol shatter. Their perception of reality changes upon the whims of their feelings. They mistake what they feel as thinking. Hence, why I describe the cult of social justice as collective narcissism. It perfectly captures the Narcissitic Personality Complex (NPC) behavioral process and actions.
My favorite is when they say 'fact checkers proved that to be misinformation'. Then a couple weeks later scientific studies, video footage, etc are available that prove the fact checkers wrong only for them to completely ignore it and/or pretend they never said that.
"A man without principles and will is like a ship without compass; it changes direction with every change of wind" - Samuel Smiles
These people don't give two shits in the first place, they're just pretending to care to be apart of something. They don't actually care about the cause. They care about the cult.
Realization requires thinking and people who are repeating the Establishment BLM talking points have proven themselves unable to think. That's the reality. It turns out that the majority of the population are unable or unwilling to think and quite happy to be that way.