I know I need to get off of facebook, but I have a ton of cousins and it is the best way to keep in touch with everyone but I really need to stop reading comments on things.
I got sucked into a little argument because someone posted about George Floyd. I guess he was angry because he along with other "protesters" from the summer of love were being told that they worship Floyd and he took exception to that because he said speaking out against police brutality. I told him that it was possible to be against police brutality while also not making a martyr out of people. Like giving Floyd a golden casket funeral like he was some medal of honor winner during the "deadly" covid pandemicthat apparently didn't affect rioters. Also asked him why they don't bother to examine the actual facts of these shootings since pretty much all of them involve not listening to the cops or resisting.
Long story short he wasn't thrilled with that. I asked if he fought against police brutality when Tony Tympa died (of course he hadn't heard of him) and when I mentioned David Dorn he said that Dorn wasn't killed by peaceful protesters.
Long story short he told me I was following white supremacist talking points and blocked me when I said that apparently white supremacy means not doing things that attract the cops.
I still don't understand why people don't realize you can be against police brutality and hold cops accountable while also not worshipping people and making them saints. Interesting how the whole "you can't talk about their past" rules went out the window with Ashli Babbit.
Along with Tony Timpa, Daniel Shaver is another harrowing example. I can't even watch the video of his slaughter without my pulse rising and my face getting hot.
These things don't matter to the kinds of people you're talking to, however. As Jonathan Swift said: "You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place."
Also, these people have been trained by decades of completely faulty education, to never accept that they've lost a point and use that to modify their own conclusions, or to accept an opponent's proven point and compromise. They've been trained that in the event that they've lost any argument, to run back to a "trusted authority" that agrees with them, and use that to simply dismiss any opposition out of hand. People who consider themselves "the smart ones" have been indoctrinated as severely as any Scientologist, and to lose an argument pertaining to one of their sacred positions is a threat to their entire sense-of-self.
Their self-worth and self-schema of being "smarter" is bundled into their obeisance to the orthodoxy. If the orthodoxy were to lose an argument through them, the entire delusion of intellectual and moral superiority might be shown for the fraud it is. Any given argument might seem like not such a big deal to you, but for them it could provoke a total mental breakdown.
Yea, that Shaver video is very hard to watch. I didn't even learn about that case til Matt Walsh played the video in one of his shows I was watching.
Walsh has written a lot for Reason magazine, and I don't remember if it was him, but Reason was writing a lot about police brutality and shootings way before BLM. Of course Reason's coverage was race neutral, focusing on unaccountable cops as the bad guys instead of white cops.
It's also funny because no one ever doubted that blacks bore a lot of police brutality, having more encounters with the police and being criminals more often. Reason probably wouldn't go "despite making up only 13%..." but any sane person could figure it out. It was a message that was intended to benefit the black community, along with you know everyone else. Libertarians also didn't deify the fucking criminals: the message was that criminals are bad whether they are working for the police for or not.
Yep I remember that about reason. That’s how I learned about a lot of cases. Larry Elder made your exact point. If you have a high crime rate of course there will be more interactions. Of course he got called a white supremacist for discussing actual solutions instead of blaming racism.