On his Friday show Tim whined about Tucker Carlson renaming monkeypox to schlong Covid. He then made the aids argument saying “straight people” are going to get it from handshakes. It’s frankly become redundant how many people continually NEED to defend gay degeneracy. We NEED to pretend it’s biological, we NEED to pretend it’s not a morally bankrupt lifestyle, we NEED to pretend it’s not a choice, we NEED to pretend that gay culture hasn’t decimated heteronormativity and created the “sexual revolution”.
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Where's the lie though ?
Gays will eventually transmit it to straights. It happened with AIDS, it'll happen with Monkeypox.
AIDS barely made it into the straight population, and even less into women. The only reason it did is because it was a permanent viral hosting, increasing the iterations necessary to transmit disease, by both sexual contact and shared drug use.
Every disease transmission is a matter of iterations. It's not just "how do you catch it," but a function of how many times you engage in a behavior that can allow transmission.
Monkeypox isn't a permanent hosting, it is (highly) visible through most of the duration of its transmissable phase, and it doesn't actually appear to be that easy to pass on. If it was, there would be far more cases by now than there are, in a much wider population than has gotten it thus far. Also, the case demographic data wouldn't be so incredibly specific.
The other elephant in the room is the difference between vaginal and anal sex. All, literally all, STD rates of transmission are hugely increased for anal sex. Anal sex nearly always creates microabrasions, which facilitates blood-to-blood and semen-to-blood contact.
There is a world of difference between carriers walking around invisible, permanently able to pass on their infection through sex and drug use, and a very temporary, highly visible disease that you practically have to rub your dick or anus on a weeping dick or anus in order to catch.
Let us not forget the actions of Bayer corporation. They were one of the reasons too.
Barely ?
https://www.catie.ca/the-epidemiology-of-hiv-in-canada
According to the Canadian stats (not African "we rape virgins because it cures AIDS" stats), half of current HIV infections are straight people. Yes, that's a lower rate (since there's less gays than straights, at least as of now), but it's also not "barely".
Monkeypox is contagious prior to the first lesions ever showing up.
Sure, but we already have kids with it. It'll make its way into the straight population, that's just a fact. I know the urge to dump on Tim Pool is big, but he's just not wrong.
Yes, barely. If you read your own link, even by their own "estimates" (which I trust not even a little, as they give no methodology beyond "here are bigger numbers beyond the actual numbers we recorded," it's a tiny number of new infections, and while they recognize a difference here: "those born in an HIV-endemic country (primarily subSaharan Africa and the Caribbean) and those born in a non HIV-endemic country (those born in Canada or those born abroad but not from an HIV-endemic country)" They don't actually let you peek behind the curtain at those numbers.
Like, 2. Prevalence is relevance, broheim. The "OMG KIDS HAVE IT NOW" nonsense is a piece of MSM trash fear-porn meant to distract from the reality that this disease is entirely contained within the "degenerate filth" demographic. Faggots fucked those kids, and everybody knows it.
"I don't like the numbers because they don't validate my opinion!".
My god dude, you want an echo chamber with your safe space ?
LOL, I don't like the numbers, because they literally say that their "estimates" are purely speculative, with no stated relationship to the recorded data.
You're a fucking idiot.
This. I still think Tim's kinda dumb in this but it'll happen 100%. And if it's through bi guys fucking women who will spread it elsewhere.
Even if it's not through sex, I can see then getting revenge by spitting in people's food in the restaurant kitchens and shit
Except that both AIDs and Schlong COVID are bloodborn diseases.
Schlong COVID is not just a bloodborn disease. It also spreads through puss from the postules and through saliva, though both require contact with more than just the skin of the recipient (either open wounds or mucosa).
Sure, but if the faggots stopped being absolutely whores hiv wouldn't have been a problem either.
But they can't help themselves because they're degenerates.
Exactly what I thought. HIV only got spread this far because of gays, not heteros. People from my government are now pretending HIV is also as prevelent in heterosexuals to make a point...while ignoring the overrepresentation of the whole group. Somehow, politicians can't do math, imagine my shock.
Right, how many people with under 10 sexual partners have gotten aids again?
I mean you can also get it from a needle. Or from a whore who shares needles. Either way some sort of degeneracy is involved.
Best solution is to be in a monogamous relationship with a woman who is unknowingly under your constant surveillance.
All the virgins in Africa getting fucked by HIV positive men, because it's touted as the cure.
It only requires 1 partner to catch : an HIV positive partner that's not taking their suppression meds correctly.
Half of HIV infections in Canada are found in straight people :
https://www.catie.ca/the-epidemiology-of-hiv-in-canada
Are you going to claim they're all degenerates ? Some people catch it through tainted blood transfusions at the hospital. I hope you don't happen to need a pint or two of blood next time you crash your car.
Look, something can be a gay disease, but it's daft to think it'll never make its way into the straight population. In fact, this kind of denial is how you end up catching it yourself.
This is such a misnomer it’s hilarious. 1. Self reporting is fake science. 2. The 20k of “straight” people with HIV is a massive minority of the straight population. Unless you’re saying that 20k of what 35+ million straight people is more than a “blip”? 3. Why use Canada?
20k is a good chunk of people having an incurable disease. Like I don't know why some of you want to deny reality so bad. You sound like trannies.
HIV spread to the straight population. Monkeypox will too, especially since not all the methods of transmission requires sex.
Because I'm Canadian.
There’s more kids with cancer… more people born with far more debilitating genetic diseases… hell, 20k is a slow DAY for abortions
No wonder you think Canada has any relevance
"There's more of this bad thing, so this other bad thing is not significant" sounds like cope my dude.
You're trying too hard.
And you happen to be wrong. AGAIN. Like dude, seriously. We're on the Internet. Bother to look shit up so you don't end up looking like a retard tranny ?
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/chronic-diseases/cancer/cancer-children-canada-0-14-years.html
153 / million cases of Cancer in Canadian kids, 5 million kids.
That's way less than 20k.
I bet the stats in the US are about the same. But then again, you want to live in a safe space away from all those pesky facts, because they don't always validate your world view.
How does it feel to be an SJW for all intents and purposes ? Is your hair blue ? Do you believe The Science ?
LOL "5 million is way less than 20,000."
Your care should be managed by a charity.
I’m still waiting on the verified hiv blood infusion you keep claiming is 20% of Canadians with HIV
People just want to be mad.
Exactly. Tim Pool is not entirely wrong here.
I can’t wait to see how many “straight” people get monkeypox by handshakes.
Viruses can evolve. It did happen with AIDS - probably with the Schwuchtelpocken too? Most likely not Straight2Straight, and not with Handshakes, obviously - but to get back to the point, a lot of sickness and suffering could and can be avoided if these faggots would just stop fucking each other in the ass all the time.
The answer is 0 since you limited it to a single non-plausible scenario.
Why though did you pick handshakes ? It can transmit through clothing contact or other forms of contacts between the infected's fluids and the recipients blood or mucosa.
Did, why are you mad about simple facts ? You sound like a total retard.
Like are you afraid gays are going to get stigmatized ? My god, who fucking cares about them. If they get stigmatized and people try to steer clear of them, fuck them. You sound like MSM panic of stigmatization of the gays!
"Please don't be homophobic, this won't spread to you!".
Yeah, “straight” people will get it from their “straight” gay orgies.
Super straight should have stayed a meme. Now it’s required reality to distinguish from all the “straight” gays and ladyboys.
Nope. Get bent, Tim. That fence post is wedged too far up your ass at this point. It’s what happens to perpetual fence sitters. You can’t keep jumping back and forth without getting stuck.
WTF ever happened to superstraight anyway? It just kinda dropped off the face of the earth.
The banhammer and hatecrime hammer came down HARD on it, probably because it was very effective. So they veered hard into it being literally hitler.
It was a TERF thing, founder got outed, people stopped using it.
Reddit banned it.
A+
The way straight people can not get it is the same way gay men don't get it, don't be a degenerate, be in a monogamous relationship and stay away from those that go to 15 person orgies weekly.
On a related note, I'd like to quarantine all cites, we should have never stopped putting walls around them as they helped keep the plague carriers in.
People swam so long in the water of liberalism they cannot imagine morality that isn't rooted in civil rights and sexual liberation, both of which have to be unquestionable, infallible, and unequivocal moral positives
I think the sexual revolution created gayness.
The infection ends in, like, a couple weeks!
Just two weeks to slow the spread. That's all we ask, hold off for two weeks! It definitely won't spiral into a semi-permanent ban, we have plenty of case record about waiting just two weeks.
To be fair it's possible if we don't isolate and shun the openly gay population, the same way AIDS is mostly a gay disease but straight people can still get it. (despite almost exclusively being an STD) But I think gays not being in the closet now will help it stay a gay disease. With AIDS you had a large number of closeted ones giving it to their wives.
ITT:
"Only gay people are going to get monkeypox!"
Okay, so if you don't have sex with men, you don't need to worry.
"No, you don't understand, I'm worried when it spreads from just the gays!"
You do realize that the first part can be true now and the latter part can be true later, yes?
I'm only worried about governments spending yet more billions of taxpayer money on useless vaccinations and trampling over yet more civil liberties because it's clear that faggots are literally incapable of stopping themselves from drinking gallons of piss and then getting barebacked by dozens of strangers every fucking weekend.
I don't think you can get GRID from shaking some faggot's hand but all the more reason not to touch them I guess.
lol at retards here defending Pool, hes the Mitt Romney of the online political sphere. Stop watching him.
Yeah women who have sex with men who have sex with men, or maybe even men who have sex with women who have sex with men who have sex with men. Normal people who have sex with normal people, though, no they won't get it.
He argued straight people are going to get it from shaking hands with gay people, it will be hard to find a single case of that outside of willful stupidity.
Of course straight people can and will get it. It doesn't magically affect only gay people.
But it's 99% gay dudes who are affected and anyone who wants to play word games over it just wants to obfuscate that reality.
I'm with you on the obsessive need to defend homosexuality . 'Live and let live' is as far as it should have gone. Giving progressives any leeway is a huge mistake.
Some small number probably will.
I've said this before. This isn't only transmitted through anal sex.
It’s not going to transfer through handshakes like Tim claims. The reality is some drugged out degenerates will and we will pretend than ANYONE* can get it.
That depends on where the sores are.
How many leper hands do you shake?
On Rimworld or...
When rimworlds biggest flaw is ignoring homosexual disease transmission
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You don't think I can get MonkeyPox from organ harvesting right?
Want to make some side cash?….
He's right.
It will take a few years, but this will eventually filter into the heterosexual population, just like HIV did.
This is the dumbest revisionist history. Aids never even made a blip in the heterosexual population, unless we’re talking Africa mass raping. Aids in the US was said to be the next superbug that would wipe out people and you could get it from public bathrooms. Oprah said it would kill millions of straight people. Aids hit prostitution and gay men, that’s all.
AIDS in Africa isn't AIDS. It's various African wasting diseases. There's a reason a diagnosis of AIDS in Africa doesn't require an AIDS test.
Currently, half of infections in Canada are in the heterosexual population :
https://www.catie.ca/the-epidemiology-of-hiv-in-canada
Don't claim others are revising history when you yourself seem to just be quite ignorant.
Are you a troll or retard?
Are you ?
(gbMSM = gays).
Just because you didn't get it through heterosexual SEX doesn't mean you're not straight. HIV spreads through blood contact, like blood transfusions or needle sharing. That's how the other 20% of STRAIGHT people got it.
So please, next time you call someone a troll or retard, actually use your brain to think if you actually have a point or not.
You are literally making an argument that 40,000 potentially “straight” people having hiv out of 35 million is anything. Conflation of actual data is just sad. Can you prove that any of these people got hiv from a medical blood transfusion and if so, why is that allowed in Canada?
He's being disingenuous as fuck, too. That 20,000 is "estimated" from something like 8,000 actually reported cases. He sperged out on me for "not liking" that number--that speculative number that is literally twice what scientific observation could actually account for.
On top of that, even in the link, they say that in 2016 they started differentiating those living with HIV who caught in domestically, in Canada, and those who brought it with them as they emigrated from an "HIV endemic Country." They state that both populations exist, but then fail to state how many or what percentage of those who caught HIV from heterosexual sex (supposedly) did so in Africa.
This guy is so, so stupid. He can't even read his own link properly.
Yes, because it's a significant number.
Denying data just because it doesn't validate your world view is SJW. I'd rather be sad than an SJW.
They didn't get it from gay sex or heterosexual sex. Geez, what's left, magic ?
No, needle sharing or bloodtransfusions or wound contact.
Same reason it's allowed in the US : testing is not perfect. Though needle sharing or wound to wound contact is more likely.
Well people do this thing, it’s called lying, I would hope you could pick up that hiv self reporting has been a shit show since inception because GAY PEOPLE LIE. Just like everyone else!
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I mean, it's spread through skin-to-skin contact. If you hug someone who has it you might catch it. It's just that, right now, it's mainly spreading among the gay community.
So gay people only hug gay people? Sounds very heterophobic.
...depends on what you mean by "hug".
One thing I can guarantee, is that no women will get it. Weird coincidence.
Same with AIDS, which is concentrated almost exclusively among homosexual men. Another virus created by women to kill men! That is why lesbians are saved AIDS.
Unfortunately for her, if your story is true, it doesn't spread as easily from women to men.
Handshakes are known to be rather dull-witted, but even you should have the intelligence to understand that this was not a 'defense' of your story, if it even happened.
People intentionally spreading deadly diseases should be executed.
Happy now?
Still doesn't make the chance of transmission very high, so the 19-year-old guy probably got very, very lucky.
We don't listen and believe.
Source : "Trust me bruh".
Meanwhile, it's a man that changed it to a Misdemeanor to knowingly infect people with HIV in California (and also lowered punishment for abusing little boys).
And who ran the gay organizations that pushed for it?
President of the Equal Rights Campaign = ♀️
Senator Scott Weiner. A guy.
No, no, I said who ran the organizations.
Stop trying to deflect things.
Organizations don't pass laws.
Senators do.
Senator Scott Weiner is a man.
Good look at his twitter timeline since you like your brother gays and trannies so much, you'll love it.
Been here since 2014. Gamergate ring any bells ?
Also, Imp, stop posting on your alt account to upvote and agree with yourself.
It's not my alt, I don't have any alts except for the one that sits dormant as a c/feminism mod.
He's a fucking retard.
He's going to go on about bug chasers, but they want that risk. They aren't going to go to the police after it happens.
You know who will? Victims of a woman who's spreading it to anyone who will touch her.
I can 110% believe this. It's right up their alley, a way to harm people and then be long gone before the victim can find out and go after you.
But that's not true.
UN data, so...yeah. Not the immunity they seem to have to this one.
Great. Now do the early stages of AIDS, which is where we are now with monkeypox.
Also, those 'estimates' are worth as much as a bucket of spit.
And what was the percentage of those infected who were female 'same year it started'?
Christ man.
How the fuck would I know? Ask Birx's pet, Fauci.
Impy making false claims again, shocker!
There is no reason to think that. What has been demonstrated already, by evidential data on those who have already caught it, is that it is not highly contagious. You have to engage in some extreme, hardcore behavior and engage in many iterations of it in order to catch this particular disease. You have to be a disgusting slattern willing to rub himself all over weeping lesions, numerous times to get this.
Which is why it's funny, and not scary, and foolish to worry about. The eensiest, teensiest modicum of self-control and hygiene and you are 100% protected against this "epidemic."
There exists the possibility that all your atoms align exactly opposite to the ones in your chair, and you phase through it to smack your ass against the ground.
Likelihood IS possibility, in all things. Because nearly all things can happen. The question is if they will happen with enough regularity and frequency to need to react to them in a meaningful way.
That's because arguing possibility is stupid. If you're trying to live life and gauge your own personal risk, and you're using possibility instead of likelihood, then you're a fucking idiot.
Right because that’s what happened with aids… again you need to defend degeneracy by equating it to heterosexual sex when it’s far from as sanitary
That is what happened with aids. It's settled back down to the degenerate population because we know what's up now, but there was a spike in hetero cases for a short while. Since the pox is not an STD it could be even more likely. (I wonder if anyone has researched whether you can get it from a toilet seat yet.)
No it’s not, the “spike” was media fear mongering and literal prostitutes. Sexual deviancy spread aids, then we pretended you would get it from a toilet seat because “straight” men didn’t want to admit how they got it. 41% of current monkey pox cases have HIV. It’s no surprise why it’s transferring entirely in the gay community.