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Justice is Dead (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by Yeeeeeboiiiiiii 3 years ago by Yeeeeeboiiiiiii +119 / -1
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– Assassin47 39 points 3 years ago +40 / -1

Justice is Dead

It never really existed. Justice as we understand it being applied by the state is a myth, one that only a culturally homogenous society can afford to believe. The judges and juries are just humans personally interpreting the law. There's no objective analysis here. It's not science. It's just people giving their opinions. A judge may have firmer understanding of precedent and legal bases that makes his opinions look consistent and wise, but he's still just a guy shaped by his culture, the law school he went to, and his peers (fellow judges, the "legal community", the news media, his friends at the country club). His rulings will tend to fit inside some window of acceptance to others in his culture.

Even in a homogenous society judges will occasionally get it wrong and make a ruling outside that window, angering the community. But over time when you have case after case of inconsistently applied laws that scream injustice at rational thinking people, it's a sign that your culture is too divided to function. Another sign of that is that these cases don't generate universal outrage. Part of it is fatigue from reading so many of these stories, but it's also because a large number of people think that both of those verdicts were fair.

I read an old essay recently that explains it pretty well, even though I don't necessarily agree with his solutions. I used to rationalize the phenomenon away by saying that "different states have different laws so of course rulings will be inconsistent", but that makes less sense to me now than this.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 3 years ago +14 / -3

I've moved into the idea that "Justice does not exist" as well, particularly in regards to government distributed justice. All that it can really do is see if parties are effectively compensated when a contract is violated, and basically nothing else. The kind of personal, individual, justice that people seek is to subjective to implement in a system. The only good part of are system is that it actually can force people to compromise, which is the closest thing to mimicking justice that the state can manage.

"different states have different laws so of course rulings will be inconsistent"

On a system wide level, this isn't surprise. It's basically Goodell's Incompleteness Theorem.

For any logical system. It must inevitably be complete and inconsistent, inconsistent and complete, or neither complete nor consistent. No logical system is capable of being complete and consistent.

This means that the outcomes of any logical system will be consistent only so long as it's scope is limited; and if the system's scope expands, it's outcomes must become inconsistent.

This is true for all logical systems, including math and logic themselves.

It seems to be a fundamental truth of systems themselves, along with scope. As we expand the law, we must accept inconsistency in it's results. The system becomes inherently too large to be consistent.

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– Smith1980 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

This is disgusting! Can anything be done? Or would that be double jeopardy. How anyone can’t see these injustices is beyond me. Well they choose not to see

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– Ahaus667 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

When government has failed the people it is upon the people to meter out justice. Our tiered justice system is just going to keep growing, the retards screaming that this can be changed peacefully forget that this would require someone actually willing to prosecute crimes.

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– Smith1980 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

And so many big city prosecutors are “activists”

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– Kingarthas2 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

Some scumbag out on bond down here in houston murdered his Ex by shooting her 22 fucking times in the back while she was waking her dog. Twenty two fucking times. People are more concerned about "the evil racists" getting a talking point. THEY THEN LET HIM OUT ON 250K BAIL ON HOUSE ARREST. He's halfway to fucking mexico.

And all i can think is during the last local elections we had a choice between a known corrupt sleazeball democraft and some white guy. Want to guess who won and why? And they always go "ohhh conservatives would make it worse" You don't fucking know that. Its pretty damn hard to get worse than straight up not prosecuting felons

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– Smith1980 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I live in the Ft Worth side of DFW in the suburbs so luckily no crazy prosecutors but what you describe pisses me off. These same people talk about crime in their area but get mad when you talk about doing anything about it. Arresting violent thugs is racist I guess

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– current_horror 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

The solution is underway in Virginia. The new AG fired everyone even remotely supportive of "racial justice". We can win local elections and throw these monsters out of office.

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– Smith1980 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That’s great to hear! Honestly if I was still in HR I don’t care what color they are but if they spouted the racial justice nonsense I wouldn’t hire them. They are poison

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– Hitokiriizo 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Meanwhile he got shit on here because pro israel.

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– DeplorableCentipede 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Good thing the governor of Virginia has no say on foreign policy

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– AbleistSL 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Make Israel our bitch again!

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– TakenusernameA 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That would imply they ever in their brief history were.

However, Jesus did say the Synagogue of Satan would be forced to bow at the feet of Christians.

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– the_nybbler 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Can anything be done?

Sure. The 3-S treatment. That would require Majors' friends and family not be pozzed, though and they probably are.

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– CatoTheElder 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Be careful, I got a post removed for stating the three S's.

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– the_nybbler 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Even this site is pozzed.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Yes, something can be done, but we're not allowed to talk about it because then we're "glowies".

Rest assured, it'll happen naturally once people fear the consequences of cooperating with the justice system more than the consequences of fighting it. I suspect that day will be coming very soon.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Aside from glow-posting, there is always a way to extend jail sentences:

Have them commit a crime while in prison.

Not hard to do. People break laws all the time, and they're only selectively reinforced. Criminals break laws all the more often.

Alternatively, or if the courts are too biased, they can simply be declared dangerously insane by a shrink, and moved from prison into a sanitarium.

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– Hitokiriizo 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Probably not. A judge CAN give the max available but it almost never happens after original sentencing.

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– Featherless_Biped 12 points 3 years ago +17 / -5

Don't feel bad for Tessa Majors. She was a hardcore BLM "fuck white men" type and ended up as her kind often do.

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– RoccoRatchet 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Do you have a source for this? The only social media account of hers I could find was her Instagram, and I didn't see any evidence of that being the case.

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– Hitokiriizo 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Ctrl-F and type in feminist and see her stupidity for yourself.

https://barnard.edu/mourning-tess-majors

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– when_we_win_remember 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Oh, huh, she deserved it

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– Hitokiriizo 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

YUP.

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– BidenLikesMiners 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

“As an avid feminist, I have striven towards bridging my community gender divide by being outspoken in my classes, taking an intensive course on social justice, and campaigning for a congressional candidate. I enjoy taking difficult classes and feel invigorated when forced outside of my intellectual comfort zone. I embrace the culture of positivity and growth at Barnard.”

For saying she was a FEMINIST? Hell NO. thats common shit at her age. it would be more weird if she were a tradthot her first year in college. I thought it was gonna be her marching for blm or something. the ggers upvoting that becuz she said F word are homo retarded.

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– GhostBond 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yesterday, I learned more about why Tess chose Barnard. In response to a question that all of our students are asked on their applications, Tess wrote, “As an avid feminist, I have striven towards bridging my community gender divide by being outspoken in my classes, taking an intensive course on social justice, and campaigning for a congressional candidate. I enjoy taking difficult classes and feel invigorated when forced outside of my intellectual comfort zone. I embrace the culture of positivity and growth at Barnard.” Tess was embracing that culture full on.

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– Hitokiriizo 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Trusted black and got clapped.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Cold blooded 3 on 1 murder of a woman, and walking free at 30, still young enough have a life and start a family?

Disgusting.

The men of the 1940's would rightly lynch this fucker the day he got out. What will the men of the 2050's do?

Nothing. And they'll sit and wonder why their country went to shit.

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– GhostBond 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

What are you supposed to do here? Women have been recruited like men used to be into armies to try to keep you from getting a job if you're white and male, to try to get you fired if you're white and male, to mock you if you aren't getting laid then fire you and destroy your career for the slightest bit of trying to get laid.

Now one of these women who set out to become one of these people gets killed by the people declared "more human" and superior to you?

There's no way I would lift a finger.

I've known a few women who have thought this whole narrative was bullshit, I opinion is very different for them.

But one of these race-hate women? No freskin way.

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– BidenLikesMiners 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

2040s

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– bloodguard 8 points 3 years ago +9 / -1

History has seen this play out over the years and across the planet. Where there's a vacuum there are entrepreneurs ready to fill it. Eventually a real life assassins guild is going to spring up and start taking crowd funded requests.

Google "Extrajudicial punishment".

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +8 / -1
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– AbleistSL 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The 3 white men will be stuck in prison until they get a new court date with a non corrupt jury or are pardoned for wrongful conviction.

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– Realchebz 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

he's a negro - a scared cow in the West.

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– Hitokiriizo 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Different states have different laws when it comes to murder so this MIGHT be the case.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Can we go back to the pre-1950s? I've got a big oak tree.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It is axiomatic that you get the justice you can pay for. Also, conspiracy laws and the grand jury system make American "justice" a hypocritical joke at the expense of the ordinary citizen who doesn't have the millions of dollars needed to play the game.

This is a relatively new wrinkle: lenient sentences for black thugs from woke judges or judges who want to appease the woke mob.

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– TheImpossible1 -10 points 3 years ago +2 / -12

Why are we taking the word of some Twitter random as fact? For all we know, she could have attacked him first.

Still haven't found a source for the claim, an hour later.

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– dylan 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Imp, homie, come on.

Do you really think a waif like her would try to attack someone like that? In a park? At night? While his friends were there?

I get that you hate women, but you need to look at this rationally. Sometimes men also do bad stuff.

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– el_hoovy 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

you're probably talking to an Agent Robert Cohen don't call him a homie

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– TheImpossible1 -4 points 3 years ago +2 / -6

The fact that I've seen this exact post with the exact title on ConPro tells me something about it is likely bullshit.

There still isn't a source for that claim, even now.

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– deleted 23 points 3 years ago +24 / -1
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech

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– Grumman -3 points 3 years ago +5 / -8

No, because what they'd do has ruined their own communities. Indiscriminate violence is never the answer.

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– norwegianwikin 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That's the difference between us and them. We wouldn't do it to our own neighbourhoods.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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– el_hoovy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

around 1935 or so was the last time whites mayo monekyd out

and it was glorious

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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– deleted 17 points 3 years ago +18 / -1
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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– Hand_Of_Node 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Hold on, you're for the "indiscriminate" violence mentioned by Grumman? How do you justify that?

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No, he's just worded what he said in a very coy way. I don't want to remove it when he's left so much room up to interpretation. He never said specific violence was always answer, and specific violence is an answer to some things, it just isn't the New Zealand PM.

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– Hand_Of_Node 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

LeticiaBrown-1 points3 hours ago

Content has been removed by this community's moderators. source

Q: Is this 'content removed' comment quoted above some kind of ongoing troll or meme? Have been seeing it a lot lately. I can still see my comment you said is removed, but do others see a 'content removed' message?

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Not that I'm aware of, this seems to be a bot.

I typically have to type it all out.

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– deleted -2 points 3 years ago +15 / -17
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– Smith1980 10 points 3 years ago +13 / -3

Really? Exterminated? This is a horrific crime for sure and I hope they get what’s coming to them

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +12 / -9

Yes, that is his position because he's a racialist idiot attempting to glow like a fucking lighthouse.

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– ShadistIsACuck 8 points 3 years ago +15 / -7

Yeah he's based

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +6 / -3

Can't be based if you're a race socialist.

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– BidenLikesMiners 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

WHy u faggots pushing to make gg racial?

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– Smith1980 2 points 3 years ago +5 / -3

Gotcha.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 3 years ago +4 / -3

I think he's just a glownigger.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +10 / -2
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– Smith1980 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I wouldn’t say all blacks but things are certainly being perverted. This scum bag and his crew deserve to rot

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– Assassin47 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

If it was a black woman and black killers no one would care. That happens every day in the hood.

If it was a black woman and white killers, you'd better believe it would be in the news cycle 24/7 with riots on the way.

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– Smith1980 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

True. It’s disgusting how the media operates like that

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– censorthisss 13 points 3 years ago +14 / -1

You want to know what's really sad if it was a black woman no one would care.

The fuck is wrong with you

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– censorthisss 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Projection

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

No one does care. Define care. I define it as doing something about it.

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– TheImpossible1 0 points 3 years ago +3 / -3

If it was a white man, no one would care.

It's almost like racial movements are a feminist plant.

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