Of course the faggot reveals his true RINO colors...
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Totally agree. I voted for Trump twice but we need to move forward
DeSantis’s probably a better bet for next time. A lot of people already came in hating Trump. They’d just run the same play as last time against Trump and it’d be a powerful play. DeSantis does a lot of things Trump would be doesn’t tweet admittedly hilarious but polarizing things like Trump. And it’s not like DeSantis is running against much, just Shits and Giggles.
DeSantis barely won his governorship over a literal faggot drug-addict. He mainly won because of Trump's support.
If Trump runs, I don't see any of these "based" republicans beating him in the primary. They have no personality
I agree with you, but then Trump will get BTFOed by the dementia patient and cackles because the Dems will run the same exact playbook as last time and Trump has learned NOTHING about why he lost or what to do to prevent it from happening again.
I'm pretty sure he knows about voter fraud and he's not in a position to do anything about it. Thankfully some of the states involved are clamping down on it, but not all
Good points all around
What does it matter what his reasons were for his comment?
He's right. A cult of personality formed around Trump, which motivated a lot of people. But when the personality behind the cult goes away, so does the motivation, and it all falls apart.
There needs to be an explicit set of values that the people can understand and get behind to drive any lasting movement — values that are greater than any one person, so if that one person drops the flag, someone else will be there to pick it up and lead the charge forward.
He would've been better off saying nothing at all. He could've said so many different things to get your point across without coming off with a "dump Trump" tone. Now he just lost a lot of good will from people. You build your strength so that you eventually won't need him, but you don't say what he just said after ONLY ONE FUCKING VICTORY (that really only accounts for ONE STATE OUT OF FIFTY). Meghan McCain was saying the same shit, trying to divide and get people to betray the foundation that's kept them hopeful thus far.
Trump has a 90%+ approval rating among republican voters. Anyone trying to gatekeep him from conservative politics is a traitor and a snake.
This sounds too much like: "we need to elect an establishment politician".
I could be wrong. Matt may mean we need someone who has a good track record on the local and state level, which is fine, but finding a non-establishment politician with a track record on the local or state level is like finding a unicorn.
We CAN NOT compromise on an anti-establishment candidate. The enemy is the establishment, Democrat and Republican both, and I'll take a dozen Trumps, for all his faults, than one more George W. Bush or John McCain or Mitch McConnell.
Trump personality cult = bad (but not necessarily his fault)
Trump fighting spirit, anti-establishment attitude and common sense business acumen = good
My biggest complaints about Trump don't have anything to do with his mean tweets or cult of personality, they have to do with his excessive spending and his bad appointments to various offices. We need someone who will purge leftists from government and put in strong anti-establishment appointments. He did neither.
I don't know what Matt Walsh's criticisms of Trump are, but until someone better comes along as a viable candidate, I'd still vote for Trump in a heartbeat.
Matt Walsh should not be trusted: his take on Ahmed Auberry ("what man doesn't wander around construction sites?") was embarrassingly cringe even for a "conservative commentator", as was his little fundraiser for AOC's grandmother. But the former really does keep me from ever taking him seriously; and he kept doubling down on it too SMH.
That said, the right wing needs to go way beyond where Trump was willing to tread (and where Matt Walsh is willing to tread, because even Trump went places Walsh wouldn't), and Trump probably will be an impediment to that. But certainly if we win Trump needs to be the "John the Baptist" character who paves the way. Or the "Moses" character who led us where we needed to go but was too flawed to himself go there.
I know.
Physiognomy is a hell of a heuristic.
People like Matt Walsh are happy for the right to fight with the left on social justice stuff for the same reason the left is happy to focus on social justice stuff: as long as you're bickering about "racism", you aren't noticing all the "refugees" and illegal aliens flooding into the country depressing wages; and you aren't noticing all the industries moving overseas.
How many of these "post-Trump" Republicans mention immigration? At best they complain the "refugees" aren't "vetted", not that they shouldn't be here at all and a bunch of refugees already here should return to their home countries.
They really are, and I'm sure his boss Ben Shapiro never wastes time depositing them.
It hasnt ended
This "new" conservative movement is just backlash against troon and CRT bullshit which the GOP if given the chance will use to distract from immigration and offshoring and all the other ass fucking. Walsh doesn't get it. It's not a fucking fan club; it's a reaction to someone at least actually acknowledging the situation.
He hates Trump because he hates celebrity worship period. The only thing he wants us worshiping is the Jewish God, because he is controlled opposition, knowingly or not.
Oh I'm sure he's fine with people worshiping Matt Walsh. He's a "conservative commentator": narcissism is a key requirement for that job.
I don't get it.
Edit: I see now, reading the other replies. The tweet is objectively true and innocent, but there's a subtext that this guy can't be trusted and must have ulterior motives. I don't know who the guy is. People always put his tweets in p.win, and he sounds based, but if Ben Shapiro said the same thing then yeah I'd be like "fuck off faggot".
Apparently thinking a movement needs to move beyond the person that started it makes you a RINO.
This is why we lose.
That doesn't, but the fact that Walsh was NeverTrump back in 2016 suggests that maybe his suggestion to "move beyond Trump" isn't based on some cold calculated analysis of how to further Trump's 2016 agenda but rather to "pretend this all never happened" as he says in that article.
A lot of never Trump people changed their minds during his presidency. This purity spiral is going to ruin the movement.
Not a "purity spiral": simple pattern recognition in locating probable members of "Populist, Inc" as it starts to arise. The people who sold this country out before and will do it again at first opportunity but this time wearing a MAGA hat and waving a Trump flag.
When someone says "Trump is the embodiment of everything I hate about US politics, and I hate his supporters even more for enabling him", it's fair to ask why all of a sudden he climbed on board the Trump Train and into bed with Trump's supporters. And adopted some of Trump's mannerisms he claimed to hate as he adjusted his twitter persona.
Please, refute what he said.
MAGA has transcended Trump, and that's what we need. At best Trump can have one more term. What are we going to do after that? Pack it all up and throw in the towel because he's not the candidate anymore? What about when he inevitably retires or passes?
We can't rely on one person forever you dunce.
But, hey, Walsh isn't perfect so we can't possibly acknowledge when he says something right.
No one is expecting Trump to be a superhero to fix all the worlds problems. What he is, is the best and most prominent figurehead of a movement that still has a lot of steam left in it. Trump is the only one who has beaten the globalists at least once. Why give up on that?
Moving beyond Trump is one thing; abandoning Trump is another. Matt isn't explicit about which one he's referring to.
Want to "move beyond" Trump to an even more hard-line anti-establishment position? Absolutely.
Want to "move beyond" Trump to a more happy-go-lucky, lets-all-be-friends position? Absolutely not.
It's not about Trump, it's about disrupting the DC establishment and their reckless/tyrannical policies.
All these guys pissed me off at some point, I used to listen to all of them at the Daily Wire. I'd say Michael Knowles is the best one, but even he caved to the scamdemic. Fuck 'em.
He's not wrong. Are you for an unironic actual cult of personality, and of what many if his former supporters even over here see as a walking disappointment no less?
"Muh cult of personality" is utter bullshit. No movement ever succeeds without the leadership of great people, and there is no stopping the public from venerating such leaders. People like Walsh (and the rest of the never-Trumpers under Shapiro Inc.) aren't trying to "prevent us from worshipping Trump". They're trying to oust him from the conversation and take his place. They're mad that he's a kingmaker and they're just talking heads. And for all their great arguments and owning the libs, they've accomplished almost nothing in terms of forwarding the conservative agenda. Trump can make a candidate with one fucking tweet. You rally around that kind of influence. You don't kick it to the curb because it might be dangerous. That's not what the Dems did with Bill Clinton or Obama. No, the lefties made bank on those personalities.
Anyone who is or was an unrepentant NeverTrumper deserves a skeptical eye at the very least. Trump has flaws no doubt but he had unprecedented opposition from both parties and still managed to start a massive populist political movement that we're seeing fruit from as other candidates like MTG ride the wave.
I'm afraid Matt, while factually correct about something, is missing the bigger picture... like most inside-the-beltway Republicans.
This is the mindset we need. I like Trump and voted for him but the borderline idolatry is bizarre. Just because we don't think Trump is the second coming of Christ doesn't mean that we're Romney/Cheney like warmonger cowards.
Honestly I’m not sure there IS a new conservative “movement” I think there are many frustrated Americans and many are conservative but I see jo leadership or political action plan to rally behind. I see many disparate figures. Common threads of frustration. But no consolidated fundraising arm or focused direction or win strategy or leadership. Without those things, it’s hard to recognize an actual “movement”
The tea party was a movement. Trump 2016 was a movement. This? Who knows. I think it’s ok to push forward without Trump because honestly I don’t know what he’s fundraising for. Like. It feels like he’s just going to hang out and run in 2024, which I think accomplishes nothing.
He's partially right. Centralization on an aging boomer is a weakness. We need to take some pages from Antifa's playbook.
Know how I can tell you're dumb as a box of rocks?
Now that I think about it, maybe I should've just said "revealed his true colors" instead of adding additional labels.
That's a better take, yes.
It would serve us well to remember that the Republican party is not our friend and does not share our values. They simply happen to be in contest with our enemies to grab power. When someone from said party comes out with shitty takes like this, it doesn't represent them "not being a true Republican" and calling them a Republican In Name Only demonstrates the speaker's ignorance regarding what the Republican party is.
Don't project your own values onto the Republican party. Evaluate them for what they actually are and act accordingly.