In general, all religions speak of the same kind of human decency. Meaning, coming to the conclusion of being a decent human being isn't exactly extraordinary, and therefore necessarily spiritual.
However, the key component of religion is connecting us to the spiritual. An effort to explain how it works within our lives, and it's purpose. Atheism does absolutely nothing to add to that, or than to say that there, ultimately, may or may not be a purpose to our existence.
And in my experience, that is an utterly foolish concept to posit.
Agnostic is the closer term. Though OP did use the phase
I do note believe fake and gay shit.
Tends to denote that there is no belief in God. And very often, they claim (smugly), God is something man made, so therefore invalid to most atheists. Agnostics just aren't as vehement in their condemnation of God.
They just won't go any further in confirming God, either. Practically speaking, though, I find the former to be zealous and arrogant. The latter is impotent and foolish.
Writing off the spiritual as not known, and therefore cannot be opined on with any valuable answer is as effective as saying all unknown variables should just be labeled as 'zero' in an analysis.
It may be more effective writ large, but it's also guaranteed to be wrong. And sometimes it is extremely important that you get it right.
You'd be amazed how many people grew up in a once-christian nation during the good times, celebrated when the nation became less christian, and deny that the loss of christianity and rise of leftism has anything to do with the nation's culture changing.
It has been so weird to watch this exact thing happening in real-time over the last 30 years while all along being one of the few people that actually realizes what is happening while it is happening. It’s like watching a car crash in excruciatingly slow motion but nobody believes you when you try to warn them.
No no, let me condescend to you, you stupid children. It is only I who can guide you to true enlightenment and the best way to live, because I am smart, and you believe in fairy tales! Surely if I belittle you and deride you enough, you will see the error of your ways?
A large portion of the population needs some sort of religious ideology. Whether that's an emperor, a god, rampant degenerate consumerism, their self righteous political ideology etc. But they need something.
It's just that Christianity was designed to foster society growth, whereas the many new religions are designed for decay.
Just under half of the population is actively fascist, they just disagree about who is in charge. They seek a strongarm leader, be it in the sky or in the cybernetwork or in their voting box, or all three. They'll pick which one to use based on their ideologies, but in the end, they're all choosing Boot-to-face-forever.
There were a lot of Atheists that, it turned out, really were just angry at God and found a new one.
The way I say it, these Atheists never went through "Deconversion" which is a slow process, involving a lot of introspection, that basically collapses your ability to believe in a God. It also creates enough Skepticism to prevent you from falling into other lines of religious thinking.
That being said, I know think that a prediction I had several years ago is likely to come true. I feel like Liberation Theology is going to take over the Social Justice Racket, and all of these Atheists that tolerate Atheism+ and are rabid SJWs... they are all going to convert to Liberation Theology and be the biggest bible-thumpers we've ever seen.
There were a lot of Atheists that, it turned out, really were just angry at God and found a new one.
And it's themselves. Their own selfishness, childishness and self importance. It's inherently Satanic. That was Lucifer's fall. Literally "You aren't God, I am God!"
No. I think we're looking at a the next great religious revival in the West. Genuinely: Jordan Peterson might become a Saint or Saint like figure in the future as weird as that sounds. The Left will take all their woke nonsense, and adapt it into Liberation Theology which is popular among South American Marxist Catholics.
Just because you don't understand how decentralized responses work, doesn't mean you get to be the leader of the White National Socialist Glorious People's Counter-Revolution.
Most of the people who he has helped, are very often white men. An accomplishment that literally none of the rest of you racialists are capable of. You will never help white people, you literally don't know how, and the best you can do is be a race traitor that kills white people for dissenting from your plan.
The Eternal Race War you dream of isn't real, and so the whole metaphor of an "individualist phalanx" is entirely wrong. Worse, even if it were right, you still wouldn't understand how decentralized resistance can be far more effective against centralized aggression, than centralized resistance. Mostly because you are an authoritarian and you don't actually understand any perspective outside of that.
There's the book The Last Church along with lore around the Emperor's rise to power.
During the Unification Wars, the God-Emperor (although he wasn't called that at the time) exterminated all religions because "they held back humanity" since he must have spent too much time on the atheism subreddit while he lived in hiding. This is funny because religion had lasted all the way through the Golden Age of Technology that saw humanity conquer most of the galaxy and fulfill everything the Imperium supposedly stood for.
Then in an even funnier twist of fate, the God-Emperor gets his shit pushed in by the demonic forces of Chaos after the corruption of his favorite son and many of his forces. If only he was smart enough to realize the religions he exterminated had been honing the art of resisting everything Chaos stands for (Pride, Lust, Wrath, Disease, Hatred). His "atheist rationalism" was conquered by the supernatural, his pride condemned him to the Golden Throne to be worshipped as a god himself, and humanity was doomed to millennia of slow and painful decline.
It was the classic neckbeard hubris of declaring oneself to be an enlightened genius because of atheism while actually being some dork on a web forum.
“No you’re the poopyhead!” Isn’t a very strong argument for Christianity or against atheism.
Christian values are weak and produce weak men, ripe for exploitation and subversion. It’s a religion that values submission, obedience, and equality. It promotes an inverted moral code designed for good boy slaves. My argument against Christianity is to look at the scoreboard: look at the outcomes of their morality and values. The shit-tier individual life outcomes of its members.
The Warp cares not about the belief of a single mortal, it cares for the beliefs and actions of the many. For instance, the Eldar are all that remain of their civilization after the decadence of their people over millennia led to the birth of Slaanesh and their subsequent sacrifice. The trauma of this birth caused so much damage to reality that the great warp storm it spawned, the Eye of Terror, still rages to this day.
As for the book, I'll have to hunt it down when I have time to read again.
And the USSR citizens were so impressed by their heroic crusading in the places like rural Belarusia that they renacted their revenge by raping every woman in Berlin (or "The Beast's lair", as they called it).
< Atheist who wishes he could go back to Christianity, but can't find the capacity for blind faith anymore. Seriously, I subscribe to all commandments but the first (which could, ironically, be considered the most important).
I may thoroughly disagree with your conclusion about the state of the world, but I do find your single mind, autistic devotion to your belief to be enjoyable.
He gets away with it becuz guns are banned in the UK and none of the badguys will ever use them, so problem solved. Now we just need to do that in afghanistan, an instant win.
People are people. It's an important lesson. And people suck.
Yes.
In general, all religions speak of the same kind of human decency. Meaning, coming to the conclusion of being a decent human being isn't exactly extraordinary, and therefore necessarily spiritual.
However, the key component of religion is connecting us to the spiritual. An effort to explain how it works within our lives, and it's purpose. Atheism does absolutely nothing to add to that, or than to say that there, ultimately, may or may not be a purpose to our existence.
And in my experience, that is an utterly foolish concept to posit.
Agnostic is the closer term. Though OP did use the phase
Tends to denote that there is no belief in God. And very often, they claim (smugly), God is something man made, so therefore invalid to most atheists. Agnostics just aren't as vehement in their condemnation of God.
They just won't go any further in confirming God, either. Practically speaking, though, I find the former to be zealous and arrogant. The latter is impotent and foolish.
Writing off the spiritual as not known, and therefore cannot be opined on with any valuable answer is as effective as saying all unknown variables should just be labeled as 'zero' in an analysis.
It may be more effective writ large, but it's also guaranteed to be wrong. And sometimes it is extremely important that you get it right.
It has been so weird to watch this exact thing happening in real-time over the last 30 years while all along being one of the few people that actually realizes what is happening while it is happening. It’s like watching a car crash in excruciatingly slow motion but nobody believes you when you try to warn them.
Never forget r/atheism and their "Faces of Atheism" phase lmao
the fuck was this? lmao
To make a guess, it was their hubris blooming into wanting to show off their faces so they could bolster their ego even further, and it turned out to be a bunch of ugly, fat, miserable people all pretending to be the Height of Euphoria©.
but we gotta make sure its not in a blm city or theyll take that too.
I base my morality on my life and what seems to benefit everyone the most from my perspective.
You have to be mature enough to develop a sense of morality on your own if your big book of sky fairy has to go in the bin.
"God is dead and it is we who have killed him."
As a fellow atheist, I beg you: knock this stupid shit off. It doesn't help.
I know, I'm only using that for rhetorical flair, and only here.
No no, let me condescend to you, you stupid children. It is only I who can guide you to true enlightenment and the best way to live, because I am smart, and you believe in fairy tales! Surely if I belittle you and deride you enough, you will see the error of your ways?
A large portion of the population needs some sort of religious ideology. Whether that's an emperor, a god, rampant degenerate consumerism, their self righteous political ideology etc. But they need something.
It's just that Christianity was designed to foster society growth, whereas the many new religions are designed for decay.
Just under half of the population is actively fascist, they just disagree about who is in charge. They seek a strongarm leader, be it in the sky or in the cybernetwork or in their voting box, or all three. They'll pick which one to use based on their ideologies, but in the end, they're all choosing Boot-to-face-forever.
Unfortunately, I was surprised.
There were a lot of Atheists that, it turned out, really were just angry at God and found a new one.
The way I say it, these Atheists never went through "Deconversion" which is a slow process, involving a lot of introspection, that basically collapses your ability to believe in a God. It also creates enough Skepticism to prevent you from falling into other lines of religious thinking.
That being said, I know think that a prediction I had several years ago is likely to come true. I feel like Liberation Theology is going to take over the Social Justice Racket, and all of these Atheists that tolerate Atheism+ and are rabid SJWs... they are all going to convert to Liberation Theology and be the biggest bible-thumpers we've ever seen.
And it's themselves. Their own selfishness, childishness and self importance. It's inherently Satanic. That was Lucifer's fall. Literally "You aren't God, I am God!"
Can we skip this..? It sounds worse than what we have right now.
No. I think we're looking at a the next great religious revival in the West. Genuinely: Jordan Peterson might become a Saint or Saint like figure in the future as weird as that sounds. The Left will take all their woke nonsense, and adapt it into Liberation Theology which is popular among South American Marxist Catholics.
Just because you don't understand how decentralized responses work, doesn't mean you get to be the leader of the White National Socialist Glorious People's Counter-Revolution.
Most of the people who he has helped, are very often white men. An accomplishment that literally none of the rest of you racialists are capable of. You will never help white people, you literally don't know how, and the best you can do is be a race traitor that kills white people for dissenting from your plan.
The Eternal Race War you dream of isn't real, and so the whole metaphor of an "individualist phalanx" is entirely wrong. Worse, even if it were right, you still wouldn't understand how decentralized resistance can be far more effective against centralized aggression, than centralized resistance. Mostly because you are an authoritarian and you don't actually understand any perspective outside of that.
There were Christians in 40k?
There's the book The Last Church along with lore around the Emperor's rise to power.
During the Unification Wars, the God-Emperor (although he wasn't called that at the time) exterminated all religions because "they held back humanity" since he must have spent too much time on the atheism subreddit while he lived in hiding. This is funny because religion had lasted all the way through the Golden Age of Technology that saw humanity conquer most of the galaxy and fulfill everything the Imperium supposedly stood for.
Then in an even funnier twist of fate, the God-Emperor gets his shit pushed in by the demonic forces of Chaos after the corruption of his favorite son and many of his forces. If only he was smart enough to realize the religions he exterminated had been honing the art of resisting everything Chaos stands for (Pride, Lust, Wrath, Disease, Hatred). His "atheist rationalism" was conquered by the supernatural, his pride condemned him to the Golden Throne to be worshipped as a god himself, and humanity was doomed to millennia of slow and painful decline.
It was the classic neckbeard hubris of declaring oneself to be an enlightened genius because of atheism while actually being some dork on a web forum.
The Emperor was just the Emperor before Abbadon's betrayal. I remember he made it clear he wasn't any sort of god.
The "God"-Emperor moniker was applied after he died.
He was also some super shaman from ancient times.
I like the ones who identify as Jedi but don't harbor any Jedi traits except for arrogance.
Bonus when you drop "only a Sith deals in absolutes" on them and they get mad after realizing they opened themselves up for it.
Is atheist even a thing on the web anymore? i thought they burnt out a few yers into mid trumpf
“No you’re the poopyhead!” Isn’t a very strong argument for Christianity or against atheism.
Christian values are weak and produce weak men, ripe for exploitation and subversion. It’s a religion that values submission, obedience, and equality. It promotes an inverted moral code designed for good boy slaves. My argument against Christianity is to look at the scoreboard: look at the outcomes of their morality and values. The shit-tier individual life outcomes of its members.
Christcuck normies gonna cope...
The comments here got a weird attack from downvoters a few hours ago it seems.
I haven't delved much into warhammer 40k, tell me more about that genocide.
I read a lot of 40k novels, and while it's been a few years, I'm unfamiliar with the genocide in question.
The Warp cares not about the belief of a single mortal, it cares for the beliefs and actions of the many. For instance, the Eldar are all that remain of their civilization after the decadence of their people over millennia led to the birth of Slaanesh and their subsequent sacrifice. The trauma of this birth caused so much damage to reality that the great warp storm it spawned, the Eye of Terror, still rages to this day.
As for the book, I'll have to hunt it down when I have time to read again.
You expect religions and people to be logical.
Why would you do this.
Socialists tells us socialism was based on love. Socialism also kills everyone.
Facts of life.
They also raped children and burned children.
And the USSR citizens were so impressed by their heroic crusading in the places like rural Belarusia that they renacted their revenge by raping every woman in Berlin (or "The Beast's lair", as they called it).
It's almost as if this board isn't one person.
Nor the ideological cult you pretend it is.
Genocide of Christians in 40k?
< Atheist who wishes he could go back to Christianity, but can't find the capacity for blind faith anymore. Seriously, I subscribe to all commandments but the first (which could, ironically, be considered the most important).
Coke is life, Jesus is dead, suck it up god-botherer.
Thank you for reminding them.
There he goes again.
You imply he has any other state of being.
I may thoroughly disagree with your conclusion about the state of the world, but I do find your single mind, autistic devotion to your belief to be enjoyable.
I got a tan, mission accomplished.
He gets away with it becuz guns are banned in the UK and none of the badguys will ever use them, so problem solved. Now we just need to do that in afghanistan, an instant win.
Seeing as UNIT straight up had and used guns, and the doctor even supported them in early Who, I agree.
River Song had a gun, and the Doctor married her.
I think a lot of it is that most of the actors and crew don't know how a gun works so they look weird trying to fake shoot one.
That's kind of the joy of some shows, superior piffle as Roger Ebert called Shaolin Soccer.