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Journalist Julia Ioffe calls for stripping First Amendment protection from Fox News (i.imgur.com)
posted 5 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 5 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +83 / -0
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– BulbasaurusThe7th 50 points 5 years ago +50 / -0

Early life part of her wikipedia page tells you the usual.

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– CptLightning 40 points 5 years ago +40 / -0

N-n-n-nooOoIOooOoo you can't point that out! Stormfag REEEEEEEEEE

Nevermind the fact that we're on KiA2 because KiA1 wanted to stifle all discussion of the greater culture war that people in GG noticed while going after games journalists. You can't Notice these interesting coincidences here!!

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

You can't know, maybe I wanted to point out the fact she... went to school. Had parents.
Having two parents is privilege after all.

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– Adamrises 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Shad knows what you intended to mean, even before you wrote it. Get banned.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Most of it's because we're all tired of the same fucking schtick forever. We get it, you think it's the Jews and nothing ever else because you believe in no other concept of power dynamics beyond eternal race war and you're upset because you think the Jews are winning and the whites are loosing.

We got the fucking message, and you're still wrong.

The part after this is where someone calls me a jew for disagreeing.

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– CptLightning 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

No I don't think it's the jews and absolutely nothing else. I just find it interesting how the discussion is a mind killer for people here.

Hmmm there's clearly a coordinated push that's racially and politically motivated to disenfranchise conservatives, whites, patriots, etc. But the second you mention that a disproportionate amount of people pushing this are the same ethnicity, which also happens to have its own ethnostate already, suddenly its some vast conspiracy? And you can't talk about it anymore?

Like Elon Musk asking "who controls the media" meaning just the rich, but every journo immediately took it as an antisemitic attack. Real interesting

Are there other explanations for why Jews have such disproportionate power over media and why it's used to attack whites? Of course, but shrieking like a harpy and insulting people for pointing out cohencidences only drives people further into believing that. You're not changing their minds by shrieking "REEEEEE STORMFAG! THE JEWS DO NOTHING WRONG!" Especially when you're shrieking at the wrong target.

I'm here for open discussion of any and every possibility no matter how distasteful. I only see Tony sperging out at Impossibro for replacing the jews in stormfag thinking with women; when really if you want to be ideologically consistent, you should be too. As well as anyone else who shits themselves at the mention of Judaism. But no, the shrieking only comes out when it's specifically jews mentioned.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I just find it interesting how the discussion is a mind killer for people here.

That's like saying someone is being closed minded when don't want to put their hand on a hot stove. No one's being "closed minded" to you and other's like you ranting about the Jews. It's the same shit it always has been, it's always wrong, and it always results in someone explaining why Hitler was a good boy who dindu nuffin and was just on his way to college, and he totally wasn't a Leftist. ... so in the end you still end up promoting racial justice, leftism, and the balkanization of the country.

If you were so ideologically inclined to cover the issue, and not just another person literally blaming the jews for their life not being together.

You might as well claim I'm a sex traitor who's not recognizing the pattern of women's cabal against men when TheImpossible1 starts up.

Are there other explanations for why Jews have such disproportionate power over media

I could go over the book "Immigration And Culture" with you, but you'd have to be willing to listen. Disparity does not equal Discrimination.

why it's used to attack whites?

White Leftism, like many European ideologies including Catholocism, builds off of shame. Some people can be shamed into obedience. It's a collectivist mindset that continental Europe has had for a very long time.

Of course, but shrieking like a harpy and insulting people for pointing out cohencidences only drives people further into believing that.

Only because they are promoting self-victimization in order for them to feel like they need the protection of white racialists, like all other ones.

You're not changing their minds by shrieking "REEEEEE STORMFAG! THE JEWS DO NOTHING WRONG!"

Nothing's going to change their minds until they change their emotion about the thing. This is the same issue that I have with Holocaust Denial. It's purely motivated reasoning. I shouldn't have to explain to a Holocaust "skeptic" that there was more than one death camp, or that the Germans stopped shooting people in favor of gas trucks. But, that's the level of ignorance tied to an emotion that happens with every conversation about the Holocaust. If it were emotionless, it would be a useful, but fairly academic discussion.

But it's not, because the argument isn't really "The facts of different issues within the Holocaust are up for debate." The argument is: "The jews lied to me."

And it goes the same way every time. It's always the Jews fault, it's always about how the world is defined solely along racial tribalism, it's always that the Jews are uniquely the most dangerous and subversive race, it's always that there's an evil about them genetically, and it always ends with White Socialism is the only way for progress.

No, the racialism has to get confronted early and often when it's getting pushed early and often. It's no fucking different from going to a Leftist sub, talking about a police shooting, and some asshole saying, "If he was black, he would have been killed. Did you know police are slave patrols?"

It's Leftist subversion and there needs to be a response to it. But how many times to I have to explain that the police aren't slave patrols until they stop? Never. It's not based in reality, it's based in emotion.

If they want to act like an individual and listen to honest dialogue, then fine, show it to me. Apotheosis (a Christian Identity user) has. He'll rationalize his position until the cows come home, and he'll defend White Christian National Socialism and claim the Jews are innately satanic. But once I get past his first level of posturing for the crowd (because that's what his first comment will always be about), he can still have a discussion.

I only see Tony sperging out at Impossibro for replacing the jews in stormfag thinking with women; when really if you want to be ideologically consistent, you should be too.

For the most part, it's just him fucking ranting. I'd rather play with him a bit so he mellows out over time and realizes he can't blame women for all of his problems. It's just him, and there's not an active political push by fringe Incels to squat on boards and be particularly vile to users who disagree with them.

For example, he has never called me a gender traitor, a secret woman subverter, working on behalf of the femoid cabal, or just straight up a woman.

TheImpossible1 has the capacity for humor, and he doesn't have dozens of people prepared to jump in and rant with him, creating a hysterical environment of paranoid woman-haters.

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– gunka 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

the Germans stopped shooting people in favor of gas trucks.

yeah the germans tooled around all day in modified trucks that have never been found, spending valuable wartime fuel suffocating millions. kinda like when that rowdy tour group who pulled pranks at the capitol earlier this year was actually a deadly insurrection possibly worse than 9/11. it's history and i believe it as we're supposed to

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Gas trucks which have been photographed and were originally invented by the Soviets.

That and you might think that executing all of Europe's Jews is a waste of resources, but that's your own fault for not understanding a) Socialism, b) National Socialism, c) Hitler's idea that he was literally trying to save Europe from the Jews.

When socialists decide that something is important, they sacrifice their resources to it. They have planned economies for a reason, and accept the problems that come with it to achieve those issues. Hitler believed that if he didn't eradicate the Jews from Europe entirely, then they would utterly destroy Europe until there was nothing left. Not only did they use fuel, they used men, they used ammunition, they used policing forces, they used railway cars and time, damn near up to the very end of the war because they believed what they were doing was of monumental importance and a heroic good for the world.

You'll notice that Stalin also had no problems purging his own military during active military campaigns, and also massacred thousands of Polish officers at Khatyn despite the fact that he could have absorbed them into the Soviet Army.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

These Polish officers have been investigated and declared implacable enemies of Soviet people and sentenced to death by the speedy troika "trials". In absence and secretly.

Others have been spared, for one reason or another. They then went either Anders or Berling from various prisons and camps. (They of course included Anders and Berling themselves.)

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– CptLightning 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Fucking tilting at windmills mate. I've been very clear that I'm not a stormfag but you go off full speed as if I was one. This is what I meant by mindkilling. You see someone mention early life or say "cohencidence" (which I just think is a hilarious portmanteau that really has no use outside of these discussions)

But yeah, just cut context out of my reply so you can keep tilting at that windmill Don Gizortnik.

Are there other explanations for why Jews have such disproportionate power over media

I could go over the book "Immigration And Culture" with you, but you'd have to be willing to listen. Disparity does not equal Discrimination.

Nice how you just cut out the "of course" there so you can continue your self-righteous tirade.

For example, he has never called me a gender traitor, a secret woman subverter, working on behalf of the femoid cabal, or just straight up a woman.

I've done no such thing either, but you reply as if I have. Curious.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Nice how you just cut out the "of course" there so you can continue your self-righteous tirade.

This is exactly my fucking point though. Do you actually give a shit about discussing an answer, or would you like continue to spout memes about Jews. It's one or the other. If it's the former, what do you want to go over. If it's the later, don't expect me to not throw some shit back in the other direction.

Think of it no differently than ibdemic coming on with some Orange Man Bad shit.

I've done no such thing either, but you reply as if I have. Curious.

I didn't say that you did, it's that the antisemetic right does incessantly. TheImpossible1 at least has the ability to contain himself by comparison.

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– CptLightning 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I'm just here for memes. Whether it's Jews, women, or shudder the Irish. Mostly because there is no point to discussing the answer here imo. We're all midwits at best. Even with the root cause of all our problems were to be identified and widely accepted here, the best we'd ever do is lament our troubles and maybe encourage each other to get involved in local politics.

I suppose my main contention in the prior posts is how vehement people are about stomping on perceived stormfags. Is a man not entitled to his own lols from /pol/ memes? Banter back and forth is perfectly all right, even encouraged, but it appears to me at least, that anyone memeing with the JQ gets legitimate anger. It's like the easiest bait in existence.

Maybe I'm just tone policing though, but it seems to me the community already self-policies between memers and unironic stormfags with the upboats and downboats. It's my experience that people pushing the second coming of Uncle Adolf usually get huge negatives even without angry replies

I could probably also stand to make my points better if I wasn't a filthy phoneposter. Hope the gist of what I'm trying to say comes across

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– SupremeReader 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

or that the Germans stopped shooting people in favor of gas trucks.

They still did Operation Harvest Festival that was a (little known) large scale machine gun action in 1943.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Sure, it's not like they're gonna say, "No, never use guns".

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– firstones 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Get back to your containment board

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– Steampunk_Moustache 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

It's amazing how easy it is to spot them by their words, isn't it? You wouldn't think you could pick out an ethnic group that has lived in Europe for the better part of 2000 years from just a few dozen words, but you can, and with astonishing accuracy.

I don't think there's a single other group that's been in Europe for so long that you could attempt to pick out of a crowd so clearly.

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– Adamrises 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

They interbred hard enough to have major physical qualities entirely onto themselves. It stands to reason personalities and all the rest likely got bred the same way to make them have a similar reveals.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Gyppos.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

"Twitter is how I see race"

God help you.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

More like "If they're calling for the subversion and deracination of our society, they're almost always jewish"

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

"White people would never do anything like this!"

Don't pretend that white Europeans aren't the majority of the Leftist problem.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Go look at any election map 'if only white people voted'.

Every state is red, forever.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Wrong. You still lose all of the West coast, all of New England, and Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

Take a look how England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Belgium, Germany Spain, Sweden, Norway, Italy, and Denmark have all voted too. They are all exceedingly white countries and it didn't do shit. The only European countries that are resisting Leftism are ones that have already been previously occupied by Leftists who's regimes collapsed, and none of them are in western Europe.

You're a god damned fool if you think white voters will stop Socialism. They've repeatedly voted for it.

The rule is: White Europeans will ask for Socialism until they get it, then realize it was a terrible mistake only after it's utterly devastated them. Even in the South, the only reason it's voting Red is because they were already occupied by Southern Progressives for nearly a century.

The only white group that seems to be decidedly anti-Leftists are whites that are so rural they are effectively individualist pioneers. That's basically South Dakota and Alaska.

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– deleted 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0
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– yitt 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

lol of course

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– cartoonericroberts 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

And the original use of that metaphor was used against anti-war pamphleteers.

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– donaldthrow 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Yes, it was by prosecutors who wanted to send people to prison for protesting WWI.

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– Smith1980 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

But watching CNN all day is ok

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– w-duranty6489 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

Yes. It has magically transmuted to not be a mass shooting.

The FBI stands by its designation of "suicide by cop" as the motivation for the shooting of House GOP Whip Steve Scalise in 2017, which nearly killed him.

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– w-duranty6489 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Yes, getting your vote stolen by voter suppression or fraud typically causes emotional distress.

Especially since the election was hyped up by the media both before and after the election.

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– Adamrises 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Fox is so irrelevant it makes it all the more baffling they treat it like some radicalization tool.

Outside of your grandpa's Conservative party, you know the one that failed to conserve anything for decades, its considered controlled opposition at best. All the actual radical and extremists on the right are into far deeper shit online.

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– MargarineMongoose 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

It's them shifting the Overton Window...I think. Fox is mild and offers no real resistance to the Left's onslaught. If they can paint it as demonic then anything offering a a true threat to their power is already covered as unspeakably vile and not deserving of being subject to the rules; They can just nuke it from orbit with no due process to massive applause. This is to cement their power.

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– Adamrises 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I don't think its shifting the Window because its the same viewpoint from the Bush era 20 years ago, the problem is that they are treating it as if its still as powerful as it was then.

Them nuking Fox at this point would almost be useless because of how meaningless it truly is to most of the Right Wing in America. While it would gain them accolades and market dominance, cable news is a dying market and accolades won't stop the radicalization.

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– RussianAgent13 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It would be amusing if the prosecution actually challenges him to prove that Fox said anything about the election that "radicalized" him.

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– realerfunction 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

"journalists" are to be seen and not heard

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Archives for this post:

link - archive.org - archive.today - imgur

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– smashorbz 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

people still use the fire in the theatre argument?

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– DonuteaterReturns 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

That's the worst defense I've ever heard. He should get a better lawyer.

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– dontdrinksoy 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

"Journalist."

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– Rexmo 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Ah yes. The infamous Twinkie Defense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense

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– DonuteaterReturns 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Huh, it led to another riot when leftists didn't get their way. Odd.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Frum says he doesn't practice, but he preaches it all day

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