If I was 90, I would accept the risks of mortality and not force an experimental vaccine on random people so my crypt keeper ass can live another few miserable years.
As a Canadian, this. Canadians are compliant little faggots. They do not have that American spirit. They don't value freedom over safety, and they aren't skeptics when it comes to government. Look at our leader, he is the most obviously fake and corrupt piece of shit who is selling our freedom to China, but most people have no idea.
We don't even have opposition media. You know how the MSM was with Obama? Basically never saying anything bad, except the occasional thing to make them seem unbiased? That's all we have. We don't have anything else. It's 90% sheep.
It took a while. They were still happily talking about it (and injecting it) while many other countries were banning it because of worries about blood clots.
That is the real selfishness in all this: When people who are not far from death because of age or ailments demand that people who still have full and mostly healthy lives ahead of them isolate themselves, pump themselves with experimental drugs, and have the shit scared out of them.
Oh, this entire hoax was about scaring the pathologically self-absorbed boomers (who are entering the last chapter of their lives) into destroying the economy. And for what? A very slight increase in their life expectancy, literally at the cost of life expectancy for their children and grand children. No other generation of people has ever been this insanely selfish. Not yet, anyways.
I think millenials and some early Gen Zers are about there, they have thoroughly destroyed culture, and support communism, demand free stuff, support everything "woke", believe racism is the worst atrocity in the world, believe "silence is violence".... they are a bunch of narcissists like the boomers but on a worse level IMO.
Imagine you have the resources to avoid most contact, and your only experience with COVID is through the media. I think Shatner is pretty based, but he's also a bit of a loon who can afford to have his groceries delivered.
I tested negative on the PCR, and tested positive for antibodies a month later. The whole thing is a fucking joke. But I have the benefit of a ground view that he isn't afforded.
Actors are certainly below prostitutes, because they deceive for a living as a goal of their job, where as a prostitute is at least honest, but of anyone to be irritated at, there are better targets.
The vaccine rollout has resulted in some of the crazies “coming out of their houses” for the first time in over a year. These people honestly believe Covid-19 was some kind of Black Death. Meanwhile, the rest of us have been living normal lives, totally unafraid, for 6+ months, and their fear can only be described as insanity.
I liken these people to a bunch of dummies who were fooled into living underground for a year because they thought the apocalypse was nigh. Now they’re coming out of their bunkers, all smiles and optimism, because they survived. To those of us who remained on the surface and experienced no apocalypse, their behavior is completely retarded.
Reminds me of HBO's Rome where the town newscaster was announcing, i think, the funeral of julius ceasar and he said unclean tradesman, prostitues and actors need not come.
Whoring is just the oldest profession around, and truly capitalist, quid pro quo.
Murder is also something that someone could reasonably commit. I routinely wonder how I see men get dragged through a court system by a woman they loved, and thought loved them, and strip them of their autonomy and children and income, and wonder why they don't just kill the bitch. I just couldn't handle the injustice of it, I'd absolutely snap.
The muck-raking and shit-stirring of modern day activists and bloggers pretending they're fighting against the system as they work to support it reminds me vividly of Morpheus explaining to Neo that all the "others" around him that were still hooked up the The Matrix were nothing more than cogs in the machine, and would fight and die to protect it. To do so now requires an amount of willful ignorance and indifference; a bystander effect of a moral variety.
Doesn’t apply to conservative bakers, though. Because a rebranded flu with a 99.8% survival rate is more important than a Christian’s most deeply held beliefs. That same flu is not, however, more important than social justice demonstrations.
Thats true, "its a private company, they can do what they want" only applies to leftists.
That same flu is not, however, more important than social justice demonstrations.
This was my 100% confirmation that the chyna virus is complete BS. When not only were BLM protestors not condemned, but endorsed. Endorsed not by some wacko fringe doctor, but more than1300 health care professionals.
Corporations soon probably: "We're not forcing you to take the vaccine! Also we're not letting you buy food, drink, or anything else without proof you were vaccinated."
If only commies do what they claim to do.. they would loot and destroy all these powerful corporations. Angry mob of commies these days just push things that fuck over the every day person instead of fighting corps.
If the vaccines were entirely necessary we wouldn’t need to require them. I personally don’t think they’re necessary for most people despite being scheduled to get one myself because in my area not being vaccinated is going to render me celibate. If it wasn’t for being forever outcast and having no hope of dating anybody, I would not personally be getting vaccinated for this. Not an anti vaxxer, just don’t think the numbers render this necessary for people that aren’t vulnerable.
It isn’t just leftists sluts out here. There are the hyper leftist types and just general people that don’t know any better and want the vaccine to not have to stay locked down. I haven’t seen a lot of my family in more than a year and some of them are old and won’t be around much longer and they won’t see me until I’ve been vaccinated, either. I’m also going to be unable to work if I go on too much longer without it. I’d fake a card but it’s going to be found out and that’d end worse than the vaccination.
It’s not a decision I make lightly, but they got me all around. I’m ashamed to be putting up with it, but I can live with that more than the alternative.
I will be honest, I predict that too many people who have taken these mRNA vaccines will sadly end up with major harmful side effects in the future.
ASsuming that the mRNA vaccines were made in good faith to work as intended, there should not be any long term side-effects because mRNA only persists for a few days.
I’m self employed and innumerable people vital to my income have all said the same thing regarding me being vaccinated. One upside is that I’m also on HRT so I can feel like pretty much anything I’d want during and after it. There’s no ‘I was rendered infertile or gained weight’ or anything for me, I’ll be riding high the whole time so there’s at least that. I may very well not get too many more years with my parents, who are very old, and if it’s them dying alone and me being financially black listed vs the risk, it’s a sad decision to make but the one I’ve unfortunately made.
If there is another one though, or some other attempt, or anything like making a vaccine passport, I’m faking every single one going forward without remorse. Lockdown people for a year and cause riots and get all the buy in, and I’m pressed against the wall on what I can do with it. Pretend we have to do this every year and I’ll die on the hill with you guys. I’m not doing that shit.
As for the people that don’t know any better, I do see their side of it. The vaccines will slow/stop/protect people against the virus. At least better and more directly than anything else. My disagreement isn’t over whether they work, which is their main concern, but whether any of this was at all needed outside of providing it to the vulnerable.
For me, this is simple. This is the hill to fight on.
How many people like you will be peer pressured into getting this vaccine that is based on experimental technology that has not finished testing for long term side effects?
I am certain that this will not be a one-off attempt.
As more and more people comply, the ruling elite will be emboldened to push more and more tyranny on us. Vaccine passports and a social credit system are next.
We should all be free to make our own decisions when it comes to health.
This vaccine peer pressure is merely the start of unspeakable authoritarianism.
I live in a blue city. It’s a foregone conclusion literally everywhere here that you will be getting vaccinated. Coming out with even mild concerns or hesitation is enough to ostracize you completely from family, friends, and coworkers. It’s the most social pressure and coercion I’ve ever experienced, and it is utterly crushing. I’m honestly more depressed than I’ve ever been.
At least wait another year or so. Just tell them that you cannot in good conscience take the vaccine until every black and brown person is vaccinated. They won't know how to respond because they're so terrified of being called racist.
I feel ya, man. As I’ve outlined elsewhere, my current plan is to get the least worst vaccine and then go nuclear on every leftist in my life if anything goes wrong.
The only one I have access to get in the time frame I’d need it is the Moderna one, which seems middle of the road for worseness. I’m heart broken over it, but everyone around me has me backed against a wall with it.
Disappointing to see from Shatner, but as someone else mentioned, the guy is 90 years old. He’s in the age group that 1) is actually at risk from covid, and 2) remembers when a vaccines were introduced that effectively wiped out polio.
Perhaps more relevant, he makes good money on the convention circuit. He’s probably hoping to milk that in one big farewell tour, if things get back to “normal” relatively soon. He seems to have a new movie with Christopher Lloyd out soon, You Tube threw a trailer for it at me in an ad earlier this weekend. Maybe he’s trying to virtue signal a bit while promotion for the film is going on.
I remember people here saying Shatner was based.
Actors need to be treated as the prostitutes they are.
I wonder how much he got paid for this.
I doubt he was paid anything. The dude's almost 90, so he' probably just looking out for himself. If I was 90, I'd want everyone vaccinated, too.
If I was 90, I would accept the risks of mortality and not force an experimental vaccine on random people so my crypt keeper ass can live another few miserable years.
It's real easy to say that when you're 30, but if you're lucky enough to be 90 and your quality of life is still good, it gets a lot harder.
Living past 85 is a bonus and we should not try to ruin the lives of young people for these frightened greedy fucks.
Again, easy to say when it's not you.
He is Canadian, they sadly don't have nearly the same notion of freedom as the U.S.
They don't need to blackmail him.
As a Canadian, this. Canadians are compliant little faggots. They do not have that American spirit. They don't value freedom over safety, and they aren't skeptics when it comes to government. Look at our leader, he is the most obviously fake and corrupt piece of shit who is selling our freedom to China, but most people have no idea.
We don't even have opposition media. You know how the MSM was with Obama? Basically never saying anything bad, except the occasional thing to make them seem unbiased? That's all we have. We don't have anything else. It's 90% sheep.
It took a while. They were still happily talking about it (and injecting it) while many other countries were banning it because of worries about blood clots.
Gotta say it's really strange seeing Shatner push stuff like this.
He used to make fun of the neoliberal positions and was ostracized by his fellow Star Trek cast for it.
Though, he was the guy pushing for interracial relationships on Star Trek so maybe not a surprise.
Seriously, there's no conspiracy here. They didn't 'get to him' or 'hand him the talking points' He just looking out for himself, that's all.
That is the real selfishness in all this: When people who are not far from death because of age or ailments demand that people who still have full and mostly healthy lives ahead of them isolate themselves, pump themselves with experimental drugs, and have the shit scared out of them.
Oh, this entire hoax was about scaring the pathologically self-absorbed boomers (who are entering the last chapter of their lives) into destroying the economy. And for what? A very slight increase in their life expectancy, literally at the cost of life expectancy for their children and grand children. No other generation of people has ever been this insanely selfish. Not yet, anyways.
I think millenials and some early Gen Zers are about there, they have thoroughly destroyed culture, and support communism, demand free stuff, support everything "woke", believe racism is the worst atrocity in the world, believe "silence is violence".... they are a bunch of narcissists like the boomers but on a worse level IMO.
Imagine you have the resources to avoid most contact, and your only experience with COVID is through the media. I think Shatner is pretty based, but he's also a bit of a loon who can afford to have his groceries delivered.
I tested negative on the PCR, and tested positive for antibodies a month later. The whole thing is a fucking joke. But I have the benefit of a ground view that he isn't afforded.
Actors are certainly below prostitutes, because they deceive for a living as a goal of their job, where as a prostitute is at least honest, but of anyone to be irritated at, there are better targets.
The vaccine rollout has resulted in some of the crazies “coming out of their houses” for the first time in over a year. These people honestly believe Covid-19 was some kind of Black Death. Meanwhile, the rest of us have been living normal lives, totally unafraid, for 6+ months, and their fear can only be described as insanity.
I liken these people to a bunch of dummies who were fooled into living underground for a year because they thought the apocalypse was nigh. Now they’re coming out of their bunkers, all smiles and optimism, because they survived. To those of us who remained on the surface and experienced no apocalypse, their behavior is completely retarded.
Reminds me of HBO's Rome where the town newscaster was announcing, i think, the funeral of julius ceasar and he said unclean tradesman, prostitues and actors need not come.
The Romans were right.
Everything always seems to come back to the Ancient Greek and Romans were right.
The Mets don't need my medical history.
I think I'd rather my children grow up to me murderers or literal whores than grow up to become an actor or journalist.
At least they'd be true to themselves.
Might cause less death
Whoring is just the oldest profession around, and truly capitalist, quid pro quo.
Murder is also something that someone could reasonably commit. I routinely wonder how I see men get dragged through a court system by a woman they loved, and thought loved them, and strip them of their autonomy and children and income, and wonder why they don't just kill the bitch. I just couldn't handle the injustice of it, I'd absolutely snap.
The muck-raking and shit-stirring of modern day activists and bloggers pretending they're fighting against the system as they work to support it reminds me vividly of Morpheus explaining to Neo that all the "others" around him that were still hooked up the The Matrix were nothing more than cogs in the machine, and would fight and die to protect it. To do so now requires an amount of willful ignorance and indifference; a bystander effect of a moral variety.
"they are a private company, they can do what they want"
yeah, im sick of hearing that Robocop OCP type BS.
Doesn’t apply to conservative bakers, though. Because a rebranded flu with a 99.8% survival rate is more important than a Christian’s most deeply held beliefs. That same flu is not, however, more important than social justice demonstrations.
Thats true, "its a private company, they can do what they want" only applies to leftists.
This was my 100% confirmation that the chyna virus is complete BS. When not only were BLM protestors not condemned, but endorsed. Endorsed not by some wacko fringe doctor, but more than1300 health care professionals.
Corporations soon probably: "We're not forcing you to take the vaccine! Also we're not letting you buy food, drink, or anything else without proof you were vaccinated."
If only commies do what they claim to do.. they would loot and destroy all these powerful corporations. Angry mob of commies these days just push things that fuck over the every day person instead of fighting corps.
If the vaccines were entirely necessary we wouldn’t need to require them. I personally don’t think they’re necessary for most people despite being scheduled to get one myself because in my area not being vaccinated is going to render me celibate. If it wasn’t for being forever outcast and having no hope of dating anybody, I would not personally be getting vaccinated for this. Not an anti vaxxer, just don’t think the numbers render this necessary for people that aren’t vulnerable.
Ok so you live in some leftist hellhole like Portland, Seattle, Chicago or San Francisco.
I don't think fucking some leftist slut is worth risking one's health on an experimental mRNA vaccine that has not completed long term trials.
It is upto you to make the final decision but please do consider the actual risks before you get it due to whore pressure.
It isn’t just leftists sluts out here. There are the hyper leftist types and just general people that don’t know any better and want the vaccine to not have to stay locked down. I haven’t seen a lot of my family in more than a year and some of them are old and won’t be around much longer and they won’t see me until I’ve been vaccinated, either. I’m also going to be unable to work if I go on too much longer without it. I’d fake a card but it’s going to be found out and that’d end worse than the vaccination.
It’s not a decision I make lightly, but they got me all around. I’m ashamed to be putting up with it, but I can live with that more than the alternative.
Has your place of employment said that they will mandate this experimental vaccine?
Do you know for certain that you cannot work at your current job without getting it?
In terms of your family members not seeing you unless you get the vaccine, I am genuinely sorry that they have put you in this position.
In terms of the dating aspect, I have no respect for the women that you call as just those who just don't know any better.
I can see that you are being pressured from multiple angles.
I will be honest, I predict that too many people who have taken these mRNA vaccines will sadly end up with major harmful side effects in the future.
This is THE hill I view as worth dying on. This is one thing that should just not be negotiable.
ASsuming that the mRNA vaccines were made in good faith to work as intended, there should not be any long term side-effects because mRNA only persists for a few days.
But that's giving them a lot of faith.
With how the CDC botched the Chinavirus response, they deserve only skepticism.
Agreed absolutely.
I just mean that a legit mRNA vaccine should work and be pretty safe.
Have you done your research on mRNA? They’re the exact opposite of safe!
I’m self employed and innumerable people vital to my income have all said the same thing regarding me being vaccinated. One upside is that I’m also on HRT so I can feel like pretty much anything I’d want during and after it. There’s no ‘I was rendered infertile or gained weight’ or anything for me, I’ll be riding high the whole time so there’s at least that. I may very well not get too many more years with my parents, who are very old, and if it’s them dying alone and me being financially black listed vs the risk, it’s a sad decision to make but the one I’ve unfortunately made.
If there is another one though, or some other attempt, or anything like making a vaccine passport, I’m faking every single one going forward without remorse. Lockdown people for a year and cause riots and get all the buy in, and I’m pressed against the wall on what I can do with it. Pretend we have to do this every year and I’ll die on the hill with you guys. I’m not doing that shit.
As for the people that don’t know any better, I do see their side of it. The vaccines will slow/stop/protect people against the virus. At least better and more directly than anything else. My disagreement isn’t over whether they work, which is their main concern, but whether any of this was at all needed outside of providing it to the vulnerable.
I do see where you are coming from.
For me, this is simple. This is the hill to fight on.
How many people like you will be peer pressured into getting this vaccine that is based on experimental technology that has not finished testing for long term side effects?
I am certain that this will not be a one-off attempt.
As more and more people comply, the ruling elite will be emboldened to push more and more tyranny on us. Vaccine passports and a social credit system are next.
We should all be free to make our own decisions when it comes to health.
This vaccine peer pressure is merely the start of unspeakable authoritarianism.
I live in a blue city. It’s a foregone conclusion literally everywhere here that you will be getting vaccinated. Coming out with even mild concerns or hesitation is enough to ostracize you completely from family, friends, and coworkers. It’s the most social pressure and coercion I’ve ever experienced, and it is utterly crushing. I’m honestly more depressed than I’ve ever been.
I am also currently stuck in a area that is atleast 25 percent more blue than red and I still am not going take this experimental vaccine.
Yes there is tons of social pressure but both my parents agree with me so I don't care about anyone else.
Since the election I have been ostracized already by the "friends" I had here and I don't care any more what these retards think.
I already told my coworkers I am allergic to the vaccine. I then used the current media trend of stop Asian hate to stop them pestering me.
I just do my job and focus on myself.
This is not a glamorous life but this is the life I lead for having strong principles and sticking to them.
imagine letting your dick do your thinking. you deserve all the complications a vaccine would give to you. Out of the gene pool bud.
At least wait another year or so. Just tell them that you cannot in good conscience take the vaccine until every black and brown person is vaccinated. They won't know how to respond because they're so terrified of being called racist.
I imagine they'll realize you're trying to bait them, and call you a racist for trying to do so instead.
They're the ones turning peoples' words against them, so they know how the game is played after all.
Not just that. Work and family and all else too. They got me all around. You’re a witch to be hung out here if you don’t get one in most cases.
Yeah.. my mom is trying to get me to take it.
I feel ya, man. As I’ve outlined elsewhere, my current plan is to get the least worst vaccine and then go nuclear on every leftist in my life if anything goes wrong.
The only one I have access to get in the time frame I’d need it is the Moderna one, which seems middle of the road for worseness. I’m heart broken over it, but everyone around me has me backed against a wall with it.
Counter-point: your health and safety is not my responsibility, and shouldn't be a burden of the greater population.
If you want to wall yourself off from danger for the rest of your life, go nuts!
But if you want to interact with society, accept that danger is inherent, and there's no guarantee you'll live to see tomorrow.
Disappointing to see from Shatner, but as someone else mentioned, the guy is 90 years old. He’s in the age group that 1) is actually at risk from covid, and 2) remembers when a vaccines were introduced that effectively wiped out polio.
Perhaps more relevant, he makes good money on the convention circuit. He’s probably hoping to milk that in one big farewell tour, if things get back to “normal” relatively soon. He seems to have a new movie with Christopher Lloyd out soon, You Tube threw a trailer for it at me in an ad earlier this weekend. Maybe he’s trying to virtue signal a bit while promotion for the film is going on.
I'm starting a garage band called Shatnermouth.